Rifle Scopes March 5-42 Gen 2 PRS Edition

[Shayne Ward]

Long post if you care to read

Summary = This thing is freaking rocks

I had the privilege of testing the new March 5-42 Gen 2 PRS edition over the weekend, and I wanted to share my experience with you. Upon arrival at TX Precision for a train-up day, I was immediately handed the March PRS Gen II for evaluation. My initial impressions were overwhelmingly positive.

I decided I would mount this scope in a spare mount I had with me. After ensuring my zero with my existing optic was accurate, I encountered significant mirage issues due to the conditions of the day. This is where the March PRS Gen 2 truly stood out. Upon comparing it side by side with my current setup, the difference was night and day. The March scope cut through the mirage effortlessly, even at full power, which was a game-changer for me. In a move I would normally consider too risky, especially before a match, I decided to switch my perfectly zeroed optic for the March.

Remarkably, it only took two shots to re-zero. The real test came when I aimed at a target approximately 775 yards away. Despite the challenging conditions and my initial apprehension, the clarity and performance of the March PRS Gen 2 were undeniable. NO WAY would I have been able to see exactly where I was hitting with my previous optic in that mirage without freshly painted targets. The March made this as if you were shooting in perfect conditions on a partially cloudy day. To say I am impressed is an understatement.

In summary, the March PRS Gen 2 exceeded my expectations in every aspect. Its ability to perform under challenging conditions has made a significant impression on me. The field of view and real usable magnification range is second to none. It's everything you want in a scope and nothing you don't need. From the reticle (FML-WBR) to the markable turrets (no more stickers that dont line up), this thing is a home run! I watched more bullets hit targets than ever before, especially given the conditions we were faced with over the weekend.

If you don't know who March is... You will! I expect this scope will take over a huge portion of the PRS market. You don't have to take my word for it. Next stop is the OKIE SHOWDOWN. Find me and get behind it... Seeing is believing!!!

This is going to be a game changer for you rimfire guys too… The clarity of this scope is unmatched!

 

[Onebadstang16]

Awesome to hear this kind of feedback! Appreciate the feedback and please continue to let others get behind your rifle and experience the optic first hand!!

 

[ohiofarmer]

You compare it to your previous optic but don’t share what make and model that is. Care to share?

 

[Onebadstang16]

You compare it to your previous optic but don’t share what make and model that is. Care to share?

I think it was intentional not the share a specific model as to not call out any optic. But at Shayne’s level being a 2024 PRS golden bullet winner you can count on it being a top tier optic this comparison is against.

 

[ohiofarmer]

I think it was intentional not the share a specific model as to not call out any optic. But at Shayne’s level being a 2024 PRS golden bullet winner you can count on it being a top tier optic this comparison is against.

Understood. But for those of us who have, and have used, a lot of other optics, it would make the post even more informative. It’s a useful and appreciated review regardless. And if folks can’t understand that unique eyes see things differently, well, then, that’s on them.

 

[Hennig]

I snagged a 5-42 G2 from the PX with the Shuriken turrets, and man - there really is a lot to like about these optics.

I’m a fan.

 

[blksno]

I sold a gen 1 a couple months back and sorta kinda wish I wouldn't have. I just couldn't fall in love with the reticle.
The optic itself was insanely good

 

[Shayne Ward]

Understood. But for those of us who have, and have used, a lot of other optics, it would make the post even more informative. It’s a useful and appreciated review regardless. And if folks can’t understand that unique eyes see things differently, well, then, that’s on them.

I am not here to throw shade on anything else on the market. There are a lot of great options out there and everyone has a favorite/ opinion. I also have been doing this long enough to know that everyone has different eyes. I am fortunate enough that I could shoot whatever I want and have tried them all. This scope is the real deal imo. It’s a No Bullshit perfect match of everything I have ever wanted in an optic. The clarity is amazing and the reticle leaves nothing to be desired. The field of view and eye box are just icing on the cake. This scope will sell itself given time. I’m lucky enough to get to test drive one for awhile

 

[lennyo3034]

What reticle? I’ve been running March for about 12 years. Won a bullet (but not golden) with the FML-TR1. Unlike most people I actually really like the dashes near the center.

 

[stanley_white]

I am not here to throw shade on anything else on the market. There are a lot of great options out there and everyone has a favorite/ opinion. I also have been doing this long enough to know that everyone has different eyes. I am fortunate enough that I could shoot whatever I want and have tried them all. This scope is the real deal imo. It’s a No Bullshit perfect match of everything I have ever wanted in an optic. The clarity is amazing and the reticle leaves nothing to be desired. The field of view and eye box are just icing on the cake. This scope will sell itself given time. I’m lucky enough to get to test drive one for awhile

“For my eyes and in the context of a PRS match, X Scope works better than Y Scope for Reasons 1, 2, and 3,” is not throwing shade and I submit many here would welcome a more brand-specific comparison.

Now, if it’s more like “PRS people and online trolls are weak minded and will react unfavorably to even the smallest perceived criticism of their favorite optic, this will cause needless stress in my life, thus I shall refrain from comparing specific brands,” well, I think we all understand that.

-Stan

 

[ggmanning]

I picked up a Gen 1 with the original locking turrents recently. Solid piece of hardware and optically very good.

 

[blksno]

FML-TR1
IMO, just about everything on that reticle is too heavy for an optic that has the ability to zoom PAST 30-35x.
.075 floating dot is better suited to a 25x optic...way to heavy for something that goes to 42x
.03 main stadia inside 2 mil is good, but even the 1 and 2 mil marks are .06 still and it's just too heavy for me.
Personally. If the entire reticle was .03 out to 4 mil...I probably would have kept it.

 

[Hennig]

“For my eyes and in the context of a PRS match, X Scope works better than Y Scope for Reasons 1, 2, and 3,” is not throwing shade and I submit many here would welcome a more brand-specific comparison.

Now, if it’s more like “PRS people and online trolls are weak minded and will react unfavorably to even the smallest perceived criticism of their favorite optic, this will cause needless stress in my life, thus I shall refrain from comparing specific brands,” well, I think we all understand that.

-Stan

If you’ve seen any of the “ZCO VS X” or “540i vs Y” threads in the last 6 months you’ll see why it just invites whinging.

 

[CSTactical]

We will be getting one to T&E. - Richard

 

[CK1.0]

As far as wide-FOV scopes new to the scene, I’m a lot more interested in this scope than the Kahles 540i…

Anyone have any idea what March’s customer service/support is like in the US?

For instance, if one has a problem with one of these scopes tomorrow, what would be the typical response as far as getting a repaired scope back or a replacement: days to a week or so (like Vortex or ZCO) or are we talking a month or more..?

 

[Onebadstang16]

FML-TR1
IMO, just about everything on that reticle is too heavy for an optic that has the ability to zoom PAST 30-35x.
.075 floating dot is better suited to a 25x optic...way to heavy for something that goes to 42x
.03 main stadia inside 2 mil is good, but even the 1 and 2 mil marks are .06 still and it's just too heavy for me.
Personally. If the entire reticle was .03 out to 4 mil...I probably would have kept it.

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That isn’t the reticle being discussed here by the original poster, the FML-WBR is take a look at that reticle which is the correct reticle for prs specific applications.

 

[Onebadstang16]

As far as wide-FOV scopes new to the scene, I’m a lot more interested in this scope than the Kahles 540i…

Anyone have any idea what March’s customer service/support is like in the US?

For instance, if one has a problem with one of these scopes tomorrow, what would be the typical response as far as getting a repaired scope back or a replacement: days to a week or so (like Vortex or ZCO) or are we talking a month or more..?

March is working with me currently to get an option in place for me to send you a loaner scope while any potential repairs are taking place, the scopes do return to Japan where they are manufactured and built by some of did most qualified optics folks in the world. Shipping them and getting them returned does take 3-4 weeks typically.

With that being said we are working go have stateside loaners in place for those who need an optic available to them immediately as theirs is being repaired. It’s an ongoing discussion and we’re working through that as we speak. I will say while some offer immediate turn around many still require you return the optic to its place of origin. Hope this helps.

 

[ggmanning]

I have only needed them once and have owned several for a good many years. The used 5-42 I just picked up has a glitchy turret lock on the windage. It will be a shipment to Japan which is about $50 and roughly a 3-4 week turnaround from talking to March. I don't even use turret locks but will probably send it off after my summer shooting season anyway. It's not ideal, but it is reliable and they stand behind their products very well. It's my one knock on them and if they expect to grow beyond heavy F class and bench rest use I think they will have to have to consider stateside service. They are responsive and nice folks to deal with in my experience.

 

[Onebadstang16]

I have only needed them once and have owned several for a good many years. The used 5-42 I just picked up has a glitchy turret lock on the windage. It will be a shipment to Japan which is about $50 and roughly a 3-4 week turnaround from talking to March. I don't even use turret locks but will probably send it off after my summer shooting season anyway. It's not ideal, but it is reliable and they stand behind their products very well. It's my one knock on them and if they expect to grow beyond heavy F class and bench rest use I think they will have to have to consider stateside service. They are responsive and nice folks to deal with in my experience.

They are looking at options on how to bridge the gap but ultimately the folks who build the finest optics around should be the ones who take care of it. No one would want this gorilla from Texas fixing them lol

 

[Onebadstang16]

I sold a gen 1 a couple months back and sorta kinda wish I wouldn't have. I just couldn't fall in love with the reticle.
The optic itself was insanely good

You should look at the FML-WBR

 

[blksno]

You should look at the FML-WBR

I did.
I still prefer a tree of some flavor

 

[CK1.0]

Do these require a cantilever mount to get proper eye relief like the Kahles..?

 

[W6SPK]

I did.
I still prefer a tree of some flavor

The FML-WBR with a tree would be perfect.

 

[Hennig]

Do these require a cantilever mount to get proper eye relief like the Kahles..?

Nope

 

[Onebadstang16]

The FML-WBR with a tree would be perfect.

Very few people actually use a tree in prs competition these days, in fact most have come to realize ages ago it’s never where you need it and it often prevents you from seeing the bullet impact down range. We did an entire segment on this at shot show this year and the reality is with marking of turrets and how prs has evolved the last year or so VERY few folks use a tree.

It isn’t off the table I have design drawn for a tree version but it honestly is a very limited market for what this scope was designed for, most of the manufacturers in the PRS now have no tree offerings because it’s what the consumer market wants. I can assure you, you can’t hold near as accurate as dialing input for a center hold, you also don’t get near the sight picture out in space versus center of the reticle. There’s a big difference between dialing a target and then holding over to a secondary target and actually using a tree with no dialing… virtually no one in prs just holds in a tree.

 

[Onebadstang16]

Do these require a cantilever mount to get proper eye relief like the Kahles..?

The March does not require any sort of nonstandard mount to be utilized on bolt action rifles. March has teamed up with Area 419 to make March branded scope mounts and we do believe they offer the best scope mount available today. That being said I think it speaks volumes that a shooter of Shayne’s level is able to get behind the scope and instantly execute effectively with it using his standard mount offerings he would typically use. This scope was designed to really address all the things I personally encountered as a shooter and didn’t like and then really try and bring things to the table no one else had done before to build a purpose built PRS offering that could bring Marches outstanding glass quality to a sport who hadn’t really gotten an opportunity to see it yet. As Shayne said don’t take anyone’s word for it get behind one and you’ll quickly see just how absolutely incredible the optic is and how much effort was spent making it a serious contender in the market. Top shooters don’t get behind things that aren’t good and go whoa…. And that’s happened over and over and over with this optic since the first preproduction scope through the live models now hitting the market.

 

[CK1.0]

After shooting the PR3 and then MPCT-1X reticles for 6+ months now, I’m pretty sure I’ll never buy/run a tree again.

IMHO most like the tree just because they’ve been running one for a while or they’re just used to seeing one, not because it works best for them.

IME, having let more than a few guys try my rig, it takes about 4-5rds for guys to start digging the “openness” of a non-tree reticle and forget all about the tree lol.

 

[Onebadstang16]

After shooting the PR3 and then MPCT-1X reticles for 6+ months now, I’m pretty sure I’ll never buy/run a tree again.

IMHO most like the tree just because they’ve been running one for a while or they’re just used to seeing one, not because it works best for them.

IME, having let more than a few guys try my rig, it takes about 4-5rds for guys to start digging the “openness” of a non-tree reticle and forget all about the tree lol.

This is EXACTLY why my reticle(FML-WBR) does not have the tree.

 

[carbonbased]

Outside of the current trends of PRS, for hunting I think a hybrid approach would work awesome. A limited tree. Like this, something I hacked together on my iPhone when DNT was asking for ideas on their next reticle.

You hold when it’s easy to hold (and you’re in a very big hurry). Dial when you have time. Opens everything up, but doesn’t kill off holdovers entirely. You could add a short 1mil top vert stadia like the JTAC, if it’s necessary to sell the thing.

The idea came from the second focal plane varmint reticles from Leupold. They still sell them. Clean clean clean.

And btw, speaking of markable turrets, S&B have these awesome hunting turrets with user movable marks that I’ve only seen in pics. They’re smallish because they’re for hunting.

 

[CK1.0]

For a long time, any scope that didn’t have a tree reticle was considered outdated… but I wouldn’t be surprised if in a year so scopes with trees will soon be considered “outdated” (in PRS circles anyways).

Most seem to be weary of getting caught having to holdover in space with the non-tree reticles, but the thing is, there’s really nothing to worry about. If you’re holding over it’s not like the windage line and hash marks disappear or stop working, your eyes/brain can still see it and use it just fine as long as you’re not holding too much wind (say holding .5-1mil left/right or so), arguably, having less shit in the way actually makes precise corrections easier, I for one seem to get more holdover impacts these days with the non-tree than I did with the tree.

If holding more than .5-1mil of wind is needed, holdover or not, then IMHO it’s time to start getting used to dialing some wind into the gun…

 

[carbonbased]

Most seem to be weary of getting caught having to holdover in space with the non-tree reticles, but the thing is, there’s really nothing to worry about. If you’re holding over it’s not like the windage line and hash marks disappear or stop working, your eyes/brain can still see it and use just fine as long as you’re not holding too much wind

This may be correct for static steel targets. It’s tempting to only think in terms of PRS.

But on a pdog town, the bastards are popping up and down all over, running around, standing up, turning towards you (much smaller target), etc etc.

You’re bouncing between 150yds, then 323, then 247, then 450 all day. It’s always pretty windy, and you can’t just dial a set wind mil amount as you’re spinning on a rotating bench ~90° to 120°.

If you miss (and you will), obviously the tree rocks for seeing how far off you are.

Reubenski (remember him?) the actual (and active) mil sniper guy? He had a huge mea culpa moment when he said after testing, he was a lot faster with that disgusting-looking Tremor3 ret that he prev hated. I hate the thing too, as the dots are so huge and go way too far down for 500yds hunting. Love the wind dot idea for speed, hate the fly-screen vibe.

I know the Tremor wind dots are patented (wtf) and our trees don’t have that advantage, but I think his example is important. Time yourself, over and over again, with different reticles (or whatever). Commit to the reticle for a longish while (a month or more).

Last year I tried dialing, and wow, was I slow. But I haven’t given it a fair shake. I want to try marking up the turret; that’ll speed crap up, I bet.

 

[CK1.0]

This may be correct for static steel targets. It’s tempting to only think in terms of PRS.

But on a pdog town, the bastards are popping up and down all over, running around, standing up, turning towards you (much smaller target), etc etc.

You’re bouncing between 150yds, then 323, then 247, then 450 all day. It’s always pretty windy, and you can’t just dial a set wind mil amount as you’re spinning on a rotating bench ~90° to 120°.

If you miss (and you will), obviously the tree rocks for seeing how far off you are.

Reubenski (remember him?) the actual (and active) mil sniper guy? He had a huge mea culpa moment when he said after testing, he was a lot faster with that disgusting-looking Tremor3 ret that he prev hated. I hate the thing too, as the dots are so huge and go way too far down for 500yds hunting. Love the wind dot idea for speed, hate the fly-screen vibe.

I know the Tremor wind dots are patented (wtf) and our trees don’t have that advantage, but I think his example is important. Time yourself, over and over again, with different reticles (or whatever). Commit to the reticle for a longish while (a month or more).

Last year I tried dialing, and wow, was I slow. But I haven’t given it a fair shake. I want to try marking up the turret; that’ll speed crap up, I bet.

I can see where one’s usage scenarios would push them one way or the other, and besides, different strokes for different folks is cool too.

I was just trying to make the point that for some guys less is more… with a less cluttered reticle I see so many more shots and that’s led to me being so much more confident and on point with my corrections that I don’t see myself going back.

It’s been fun letting guys try it and go from “weird” to “dig it” in a few rounds, and it’s worth checking out to see if you vibe with it or not if one gets the chance.

ETA: I think the reticle in the March looks good, and I’m glad to see more simple reticles out there and hope I get a chance to check one out in the wild.

 

[Onebadstang16]

This may be correct for static steel targets. It’s tempting to only think in terms of PRS.

But on a pdog town, the bastards are popping up and down all over, running around, standing up, turning towards you (much smaller target), etc etc.

You’re bouncing between 150yds, then 323, then 247, then 450 all day. It’s always pretty windy, and you can’t just dial a set wind mil amount as you’re spinning on a rotating bench ~90° to 120°.

If you miss (and you will), obviously the tree rocks for seeing how far off you are.

Reubenski (remember him?) the actual (and active) mil sniper guy? He had a huge mea culpa moment when he said after testing, he was a lot faster with that disgusting-looking Tremor3 ret that he prev hated. I hate the thing too, as the dots are so huge and go way too far down for 500yds hunting. Love the wind dot idea for speed, hate the fly-screen vibe.

I know the Tremor wind dots are patented (wtf) and our trees don’t have that advantage, but I think his example is important. Time yourself, over and over again, with different reticles (or whatever). Commit to the reticle for a longish while (a month or more).

Last year I tried dialing, and wow, was I slow. But I haven’t given it a fair shake. I want to try marking up the turret; that’ll speed crap up, I bet.

This scope is and has always been designed specifically for PRS competition it just happens to be good in other aspects as well. This scope literally says PRS EDITION on the side of it.

If I am asked to assist in a hunting specific scope or hybrid based optic the approach and ultimate outcome is different.

 

[Shayne Ward]

This optic was designed for PRS and the Top Tier guys do not want a tree to obscure their view. Its been proven that the time it takes to find a hold in your reticle that you could have already dialed and engaged the target with a more precise hold (especially with marked turrets). Again this scope was designed to conquer and WIN PRS matches and I believe the March Team and Mr. Rudge have built a winner. If you are a professional Prairie Dogger that needs a Tree Reticle (INSERT NECK BEARD GREG) then this might not be the scope for you....

Im poking fun here guys but seriously this thing is legit and I dont ask that you take my word for it. You owe it to yourself to give this thing a try. The overwhelming consensus is Holy Shit this thing is badass! Thats coming from other (ALPHA) glass shooters. One thing I didnt mention about this optic is that its all of the above in a compact package. This scope is quite a bit smaller than other comparable (IF YOU CAN) optics. This would fit great on a Gas Gun if you decide to date men (Inside Joke)

Ill be at
Okie Showdown
King Of Coal Canyon
Punisher Positional
Twisted Barrel Scorcher
Magnolia Meltdown
Impact Precision

Just to name a few. Find me and get behind this thing. Im the loudest guy there having the most fun!!!

~Shayne

 

[carbonbased]

This scope is and has always been designed specifically for PRS competition it just happens to be good in other aspects as well. This scope literally says PRS EDITION on the side of it.

If you are a professional Prairie Dogger that needs a Tree Reticle (INSERT NECK BEARD GREG) then this might not be the scope for you....

Whoa whoa wooooohhhaa there Hoss I & II! I’m not, in any way, criticizing the fine and upstanding March reticle.

That’s why I said, “Outside of the current trends of PRS, for hunting…”. Perhaps I should’ve made myself more clear.

Imagine we’re at a dinner party, talking a reticles. I was just throwing out an idea for a different “discipline.”

 

[blksno]

Very few people actually use a tree in prs competition these days

Very few of the TOP Guys

VERY few folks use a tree.

You mean vary few top shooters at top matches?

...most of the manufacturers in the PRS now have no tree offerings because it’s what the consumer market wants.

Do tell. List 3.

… virtually no one in prs just holds in a tree.

Thats not and has never been the point. The choice is what matters

 

[Shayne Ward]

Very few of the TOP Guys


You mean vary few top shooters at top matches?


Do tell. List 3.


Thats not and has never been the point. The choice is what matters

What he meant was every major competitor besides Vortex offers a scope with No Tree.
I know some Vortex Team guys and that was a complaint.
No offense meant but go out and shoot more and spend a little less time on the Hide trying to find something to complain about

 

[Shayne Ward]

Whoa whoa wooooohhhaa there Hoss I & II! I’m not, in any way, criticizing the fine and upstanding March reticle.

That’s why I said, “Outside of the current trends of PRS, for hunting…”. Perhaps I should’ve made myself more clear.

Imagine we’re at a dinner party, talking a reticles. I was just throwing out an idea for a different “discipline.”

I didn’t take it as criticism and I doubt Rudge did. I saw my chance to make a joke and it should have been perceived as such. You guys have a good day I have work to do!

 

[blksno]

What he meant was every major competitor besides Vortex offers a scope with No Tree.
I know some Vortex Team guys and that was a complaint.
No offense meant but go out and shoot more and spend a little less time on the Hide trying to find something to complain about

Thanks for helping him out, you might be a mind reader...I'm not. If he misspoke, he's a dumb ass.
If he didnt mis speak, he's a liar.

And you can suck a dick if you think you wanna call me out for complaints about a scope I sold, because I didn't love the reticle...while VORTEX TEAM GUYS CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT THE COMPANY THAT SPONSORS THEM because they don't have a non tree reticle to pick from.

Clearly homeboy had some complaints about the reticle as well...or there would have been nonreason to make a NEW reticle in the first place.

So did you tell him to stop complaining on the Hide and go out and shoot more, or maybe high5 after something new was created?

I've sung the praise of the 5-42x HighMaster for years, and the ONLY reason I sold it was the reticle choice at the time.

No offense meant, but you two ladies should get your stories straight.

 

[rothgyr]

Ok, I've been seeing a lot of hype, and figured we were talking about yet another FML-MT/TR variant with Arken-style-center reticle and I was not interested at all. Eurooptic needs to put some reticle pictures in their March offerings, because yeah, the FML-WBR actually looks great for PRS shooting.

Strong resemblance to the MIL-C/XT or SCR variants from Burris. I've never been interested in ZCO, Kahles, or most Tangents (JTAC excluded, but dude that scope is expensive) because I want something with alternating vertical stadia like the JVCR, PR2, MIL-C/XT or SCRs for PRS/NRL22 stuff.

So we're all on the same page with the FML-WBR, here's a picture to reference:

Very nice job on this reticle, March.

 

[kthomas]

This may be correct for static steel targets. It’s tempting to only think in terms of PRS.

But on a pdog town, the bastards are popping up and down all over, running around, standing up, turning towards you (much smaller target), etc etc.

You’re bouncing between 150yds, then 323, then 247, then 450 all day. It’s always pretty windy, and you can’t just dial a set wind mil amount as you’re spinning on a rotating bench ~90° to 120°.

If you miss (and you will), obviously the tree rocks for seeing how far off you are.

Reubenski (remember him?) the actual (and active) mil sniper guy? He had a huge mea culpa moment when he said after testing, he was a lot faster with that disgusting-looking Tremor3 ret that he prev hated. I hate the thing too, as the dots are so huge and go way too far down for 500yds hunting. Love the wind dot idea for speed, hate the fly-screen vibe.

I know the Tremor wind dots are patented (wtf) and our trees don’t have that advantage, but I think his example is important. Time yourself, over and over again, with different reticles (or whatever). Commit to the reticle for a longish while (a month or more).

Last year I tried dialing, and wow, was I slow. But I haven’t given it a fair shake. I want to try marking up the turret; that’ll speed crap up, I bet.

I think it all comes down to scenarios and usage.

Tree reticles became popular in PRS because they were beneficial to certain stage designs you would encounter. Now that PRS has become a more niche discipline a la "barricade benchrest", modern stage designs don't really necessitate their usage anymore.

There are certain scenarios in which tree reticles thrive, such as yours. Just not really in PRS anymore apparently.

And I miss Reubenski, he was always a voice of reason and pragmatism. I miss having his perspective being shared here.

 

[carbonbased]

And I miss Reubenski, he was always a voice of reason and pragmatism. I miss having his perspective being shared here.

Me too man, me too.

 

[rothgyr]

Now that PRS has become a more niche discipline a la "barricade benchrest", modern stage designs don't really necessitate their usage anymore.

It's funny when you get older MDs like Paul Dallin at the Nut Crusher do a tree only stage in high wind, or a free hand stage, just to screw with us folks who got into it after it transitioned to "Barricade Benchrest". Many profanities get raised, and a lot of shooters' feelings get hurt. If you whine to him about it, he just replies with "We used to have a lot of good shooters in Utah. I'm just trying to keep the standard high."

Even with the holdover only stages, if you have a level, it's not that bad. One of my friends shot the Nut Crusher in the crazy wind and was fine with his non-tree reticle. Skill and confidence in your system is worth a lot.