Rifle Scopes March 5-42 Gen 2 PRS Edition

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Wow all thsss guys with Thetas all have experiences sending them back… hmmm I have two of those stories of my own if you’d like to hear them. Thetas simply haven’t held up well and many of them have failed when they are actually used in competition unfortunately.

Slow down now sport. Every brand goes back for warranty work . ZCO, TT, Vortex, Kahles, NF, S&B, March, Leupold. I know or have personally sent back multiple examples of all of them and that's a crazy small sample size. If you shoot you are going to see everything fail. If you want to shoot a brand that doesn't fail, you will be shooting open sights. It's why everyone who is semi serious has at least 2 scopes and why the customer service /warranty process is an important factor in choosing an optic.

 

[Onebadstang16]

Slow down now sport. Every brand goes back for warranty work . ZCO, TT, Vortex, Kahles, NF, S&B, March, Leupold. I know or have personally sent back multiple examples of all of them and that's a crazy small sample size. If you shoot you are going to see everything fail. If you want to shoot a brand that doesn't fail, you will be shooting open sights. It's why everyone who is semi serious has at least 2 scopes and why the customer service /warranty process is an important factor in choosing an optic.

Never said they didn’t I just simply said man look at the Theta experiences and that I have had a few of them myself. Thetas have had quite a few go back in fact they now have a reputation for it. Isn’t my opinion it’s fact in the prs community.

 

[kthomas]

Slow down now sport. Every brand goes back for warranty work . ZCO, TT, Vortex, Kahles, NF, S&B, March, Leupold. I know or have personally sent back multiple examples of all of them and that's a crazy small sample size. If you shoot you are going to see everything fail. If you want to shoot a brand that doesn't fail, you will be shooting open sights. It's why everyone who is semi serious has at least 2 scopes and why the customer service /warranty process is an important factor in choosing an optic.

This.

I know people who won't shoot ZCOs because of the issues they've had, so they shoot TTs instead.

People are so cliquish around optics it's pretty funny.

 

[TheOE800]

This.

I know people who won't shoot ZCOs because of the issues they've had, so they shoot TTs instead.

People are so cliquish around optics it's pretty funny.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Never said they didn’t I just simply said man look at the Theta experiences and that I have had a few of them myself. Thetas have had quite a few go back in fact they now have a reputation for it. Isn’t my opinion it’s fact in the prs community.

Their owners also have a much higher standard and are more likely to send them in for minor things. I bought one used and the turrets didn't have the same feel as my other ones. Still perfectly usable and if you didn't own another one or compared it to other alpha scopes you would have no idea there was an issue. So I sent it on, they replace some oring and cleaned the whole thing. Back to my house in a week. Scope was perfectly useable before I sent it off and most people would never know there was even an issue. They serviced it and paid for it both ways no question asked. Probably cost them a few hundred bucks total to make a customer happy.

The entire elevation ring on my vortex gen 3 broke loose during a match. Same deal out and back within about a week and they paid for it.

They are not the same types or severity of failures.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

This.

I know people who won't shoot ZCOs because of the issues they've had, so they shoot TTs instead.

People are so cliquish around optics it's pretty funny.

That's because in their little box that's all they see. A small sample that's not representative of the entire product. But I understand, people only know what they know or see. But they are also missing out on some great stuff due to statistical anomalies. And I say this as a ZCO owner who has had to send them back yet I have a new one getting delivered this week to add to stockpile.

Shot a Kahles 540 today and I really liked it. Might grab one of them and a match to see how they stack up in a match setting with the zcos.

 

[AirgunnerPCP]

This.

I know people who won't shoot ZCOs because of the issues they've had, so they shoot TTs instead.

People are so cliquish around optics it's pretty funny.

Honestly its not just optics. Everyone is cliquish around every brand regardless of product category. Suppressors are a big one. If someone asks about suppressors you can just about guess which brand a particular profile/person will suggest regardless if its relevant to the OP's topic or not.

 

[kthomas]

That's because in their little box that's all they see. A small sample that's not representative of the entire product. But I understand, people only know what they know or see. But they are also missing out on some great stuff due to statistical anomalies. And I say this as a ZCO owner who has had to send them back yet I have a new one getting delivered this week to add to stockpile.

Shot a Kahles 540 today and I really liked it. Might grab one of them and a match to see how they stack up in a match setting with the zcos.

I'm not saying this to knock ZCO, I'm saying this to highlight how cliquish our community is, especially when it comes to scopes.

Anytime someone says they don't shoot 'X' brand of scope because of issues, take it with a very heavy grain of salt.

 

[kthomas]

Honestly its not just optics. Everyone is cliquish around every brand regardless of product category. Suppressors are a big one. If someone asks about suppressors you can just about guess which brand a particular profile/person will suggest regardless if its relevant to the OP's topic or not.

People really want confirmation bias around the suppressors they buy, more than anything else in this industry.

 

[R_A_W]

People really want confirmation bias around the suppressors they buy, more than anything else in this industry.

Which is hilarious, because 1) there’s some pretty good comprehensive & objective data about suppressor performance out there and 2) suppressor tech is converging so that differences between suppressors with similar feature sets are decreasingly meaningful

c’est la vie

 

[4O6shootist]

Which is hilarious, because 1) there’s some pretty good comprehensive & objective data about suppressor performance out there and 2) suppressor tech is converging so that differences between suppressors with similar feature sets are decreasingly meaningful

c’est la vie

Well when you pay $1400 and wait 16 months to get that supressor, you really have to know it was worth the money and time right?

 

[kthomas]

Well when you pay $1400 and wait 16 months to get that supressor, you really have to know it was worth the money and time right?

And there's no better way of doing that than by seeking confirmation from randos on the internet.

 

[TheOE800]

And there's no better way of doing that than by seeking confirmation from randos on the internet.

There’s that weird guy with time regimes and made up metrics that’s got his own cult though.

 

[Denys]

Way to totally hijack a thread. We are now talking about videos of suppressors, not even optics anymore.

We were discussing the amazing capability of the March-FX 5-42X56 HM to deal with mirage, and I see that Shayne placed well in a match this weekend. I'd like to hear more about that and how the March performed.

 

[TheOE800]

Back to the 5-42 then. I’d be interested in the PRS reticle with Shuriken turrets and not as a $pecial order.

 

[Onebadstang16]

Way to totally hijack a thread. We are now talking about videos of suppressors, not even optics anymore.

We were discussing the amazing capability of the March-FX 5-42X56 HM to deal with mirage, and I see that Shayne placed well in a match this weekend. I'd like to hear more about that and how the March performed.

He won the match so it did pretty well!! There was also a top 10 finish at the National Pigg River match today.

 

[Denys]

Back to the 5-42 then. I’d be interested in the PRS reticle with Shuriken turrets and not as a $pecial order.

As I understand it, the demand has been astronomical, so get in line. Order exactly what you want, and be patient, perfection takes a bit of time.

 

[Onebadstang16]

As I understand it, the demand has been astronomical, so get in line. Order exactly what you want, and be patient, perfection takes a bit of time.

Pm me I’ll be glad to assist you in getting said order in but as Denys said the scope has been in extremely high demand already and that model isn’t something that will ever be a standard offering I’d expect to see any time soon.

 

[Denys]

Pm me I’ll be glad to assist you in getting said order in but as Denys said the scope has been in extremely high demand already and that model isn’t something that will ever be a standard offering I’d expect to see any time soon.

I think you meant to address this to @TheOE800 .

 

[zaprosper]

Is the 5-42 optically superior to the 4.5-28 High Master from March?

 

[Denys]

Is the 5-42 optically superior to the 4.5-28 High Master from March?

Yes, it is. The 5-42X56 HM has a larger objective lens and the Gen II was reformulated to present superb IQ up to the extreme edge of adjustment and when the riflescope has 40MIL of adjustment range, that's saying something. Also, the AOV of the 5-42X56 HM is 26°.

The 4.5-28X52 HM was designed to be more compact and yet have a great range of magnification, be strong with its34mm tube and the 4mm thick walls (like all the other X and FX designs) and sports an AOV of 25°.

 

[zaprosper]

Yes, it is. The 5-42X56 HM has a larger objective lens and the Gen II was reformulated to present superb IQ up to the extreme edge of adjustment and when the riflescope has 40MIL of adjustment range, that's saying something. Also, the AOV of the 5-42X56 HM is 26°.

The 4.5-28X52 HM was designed to be more compact and yet have a great range of magnification, be strong with its34mm tube and the 4mm thick walls (like all the other X and FX designs) and sports an AOV of 25°.

Awesome, thanks for the reply. A real good deal available for the 4.5-28, but I think I'll hold out for the 5-42. Will likely end up on a 22, the 5-42 will suit it better.

 

[Drbobinmo]

This scope has really peaked my interest. I always figured my next scope would be a ZCO 8-40 when I finally upgraded from my Gen3 Razor but now im rethinking it.

Love the new reticle (close enough to the MPCT 1x I’m a fan of) but the wider field of view/optics/writable turrets are features that can sway me.

Hopefully I can see one at a future match and get behind it for a bit.

 

[Onebadstang16]

This scope has really peaked my interest. I always figured my next scope would be a ZCO 8-40 when I finally upgraded from my Gen3 Razor but now im rethinking it.

Love the new reticle (close enough to the MPCT 1x I’m a fan of) but the wider field of view/optics/writable turrets are features that can sway me.

Hopefully I can see one at a future match and get behind it for a bit.

Shoot me a pm with some info on matches and I’ll try to help coordinate you to someone who has one in the wild there’s quite a few now.

 

[codym]

Yes, it is. The 5-42X56 HM has a larger objective lens and the Gen II was reformulated to present superb IQ up to the extreme edge of adjustment and when the riflescope has 40MIL of adjustment range, that's saying something. Also, the AOV of the 5-42X56 HM is 26°.

The 4.5-28X52 HM was designed to be more compact and yet have a great range of magnification, be strong with its34mm tube and the 4mm thick walls (like all the other X and FX designs) and sports an AOV of 25°.

That’s saying something because mine is really good optically. I’ve been shooting it every morning side by side with my zco 527’s and 420 and it’s damn close, today even clearer in resolution than my 527.

 

[Onebadstang16]

Shayne and I sit down with Mac at Black Plague Precision and discuss the March 5-43 Gen 2 PRS Edition.

 

[steve123]

Shayne and I sit down with Mac at Black Plague Precision and discuss the March 5-43 Gen 2 PRS Edition.

Thanks for the video.

Hey does the G2 PRS edition still focus down to 10Y? Also how generous is the eyebox compared to the other brands if compared at a mid magnification like 15x?

 

[Onebadstang16]

Thanks for the video.

Hey does the G2 PRS edition still focus down to 10Y? Also how generous is the eyebox compared to the other brands if compared at a mid magnification like 15x?

Yes it will parallax down to 10 yards. The eyebox is on par with the rest of the industry none of the folks that hand shot behind of have had any issue using the optic.

 

[Denys]

The March-FX 5-42X56 HM Gen 2 is also used by some top ELR shooters.

https://marchscopes.com/news/21477/

Just as FYI. David got the 5-42X56 HM Gen 2 with Shuriken turrets and a reticle other than the FML-WBR just 2 weeks ago. I mounted it on his match gun, zeroed it and went up to Kansas to shoot it for the first time. He tells me he was running it at 35X and he really enjoyed the the view and the IQ. That was quite the accomplishment, winning the match shooting at over 2400 yards with a brand-new riflescope.