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mask wearer's are sheep ??
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Five finger death punch is trash. Went to one of their concerts and the motherfuckers had pre-recorded audio.
You been a member here for a whole month . Dam you ATF guys keep multiplying like gremlins in a hot tub.
Damn, I guess I need to be a nickelback fan, too?
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How about you stop being an asshole to hourly workers. I'm surprised that you would brag about such a such a thing as if it were a badge of honor.
It'd be nice if following facts and drawing conclusions was "fashionable", but sadly this doesn't seem to be the case and so yes, yet again I find myself in the outgroup
Maybe yelling at a bagboy or cashier will help me feel better about myself? Seems to be working for you!
Bryant, it is just our little neo-Nazi wade is an asshole. It doesn't matter if it an hourly ware worker or anyone else. he has rights, and his rights are greater that everyone else's. Especially if they don't share his pure Aryan blood. Put him on ignore and this board becomes better. I do hope he starts another 'White People are better' argument so his next ban is permanent. While you're at it, add his human dildo 308buttpirate and PMSlaine to the list and this board becomes 20% cooler.
Meanwhile, Sunday, at the range....
Much more satisfying than a computer screen. Couldn't find a sheep wearing a mask at the range, or hear any music playing political bullshit.
A wonderful Sunday......
Much more satisfying than a computer screen. Couldn't find a sheep wearing a mask at the range, or hear any music playing political bullshit.
A wonderful Sunday......
I'm still waiting for someone to defend their remake of "The Devil went down to Georgia".
To AngryKoala, IrishWind and Bryant: I don't always agree with everyone all the time, probably because my opinions may not be right and I'm willing to fully admit that. It could also be because others are just assholes. But I have a sincere warning for you regarding Deeersniper's comment, he is right in his assessment. You begin to fully appreciate freedom when you arrive somewhere, are stopped by entry officials and they begin to tell you the exact places you were at, who you saw the last 4 trips you were there, and ask you why you are there now and who you are seeing. When you realize you are being monitored 100% of the time and being told so as a way to manipulate your actions to conform you gain a new perspective on freedom. That shit happens, its not just Hollywood spy movie stuff. I'd bet I'm not the only one on this board who has experienced it.
This mask thing feels like a shadow of that: a lot of people have forgotten the contact tracing attempt in the EU and here to utilize cell phones for positional tracing and forced quarantines after you have been NEAR someone who had the virus. That made a lot of people flinch and it was rejected I believe because everyone he world over saw what it could wind up to be.
Not trying to belligerent with this, more trying to reach out without emotion and give some insight from the "other side" of the argument.
(ETA: clarification that I agree with Deersniper's comment. Wasn't obvious after re-reading it.)
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I don't disagree with anything you said. I'm just curious how any of these (very legitimate) concerns would justify being an asshole to someone working near the entrance of the local supermarket because of my inability to properly escalate a problem up the chain of command.
In response to 9/11 the Patriot Act was adopted because "Hey it will never effect me. Im not a terrorist."
Now we live with cameras everywhere.
Along the highway these cameras tie into an RMV data base and if plate history shows an issue nearby PO that have signed up for alerts get an email. Sweet huh? Your insurance payment arrives a day late, RMV revokes your registration, you are watching your car get towed.
Any toll you go through with EZ Pass takes a picture of the front of your car. Couple years ago my EZ Pass battery died and I was rolling through tolls without paying. My car has a single issue plate, rear only. Since our new motor vehicle inspection scheme came about the inspector takes a picture of your front and rear plate. It gets uploaded in a data base. My USMC EGA front plate and the characteristics around it are now an identifiable searchable signature that allows the state to send me a bill and inform me my battery on my EZ Pass is expired, which is what they did.
So the new crisis is cv19 and we are being asked for the good of the public to allow that contact tracing, to allow that 100 percent tracking of you and connect it to who you meet with, when, where. Why not? Its for the public good - they will never use it against you.
Brave New World, 1984 were warnings that with less knowledge of coming technology urged us to act with less complex trip wires.
We have ignored the warning.
We are entering the Minority Report era and because your travels follow some pattern that might suggest the state should be involved they will soon be getting involved for the good of the community whether you break a law or not.
I haven't experienced that but I am not going to say you and others haven't. Like I said, you and I along with others agree 99.99999%. My only statement is masks are not that inconvenient and that exploded into a rabbit hole i wish wouldn't have gone down.
I didn't say they were effective, I didn't say they were necessary and I didn't say Covid is a viable pandemic that should demand the attention it has received.
Let's not re-hash this whole thing and all can agree we need to make sure Trump gets in office or masks will be least of our worries.
No one is being forced to post on Snipershide. However, we do have some rules in place to keep the place tidy. If you can't abide by the rules, eventually you are shown the door- permanently.
Likewise, no one is forcing you to shop at the local grocery store, or gas station, or hardware store, or anywhere else for that matter. You can have virtually anything you desire shipped right to your door- for a nominal fee. But, the local stores do have some rules in place. One of the rules that is currently in place in this area is "Facemasks are required for entry." These signs are not uniformly enforced, but where they are enforced you should be prepared to don a mask, or prepared to be barred entry. Becoming belligerent because you cannot follow the posted rules is a ban-able offense here on Snipershide. Becoming belligerent because you are barred entry to a store for not being able to follow the rules just proves you are just as big of a jack ass in person as you are on the internet.
Likewise, no one is forcing you to shop at the local grocery store, or gas station, or hardware store, or anywhere else for that matter. You can have virtually anything you desire shipped right to your door- for a nominal fee. But, the local stores do have some rules in place. One of the rules that is currently in place in this area is "Facemasks are required for entry." These signs are not uniformly enforced, but where they are enforced you should be prepared to don a mask, or prepared to be barred entry. Becoming belligerent because you cannot follow the posted rules is a ban-able offense here on Snipershide. Becoming belligerent because you are barred entry to a store for not being able to follow the rules just proves you are just as big of a jack ass in person as you are on the internet.
Lucky you. I was stopped by the county constable and ticketed, then received a $60 bill (on top of the ticket) for a $3 toll I "failed to pay" because my tag was not working. Took a couple of months to sort out. Too bad they didn't have any identifiable search signatures -like front and rear license plates- that they could match to my toll tag number and send me a letter stating that my tag was not working and I needed to get a new one. Or, maybe do all of that and just send me a new tag with the letter, like my credit card issuer...
Bullshit on your premise. States are forcing stores to make people wear masks. I know of many store owners that would reject that completely but are in fear of fines and being shut down by Stasi
I’m sorry you can’t understand the situation we are now in. This fake covid bullshit is not just an inconvenience. This is the largest threat to my and my families well being that I have faced in my life. Anyone who attacks me is not my friend regardless if they are paid to do it or not. Do the police get a pass if they unlawfully arrest or cite you just because they are paid to do it?
I HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS AT ALL TIMES. Imagine if every AMERICAN from the minimum wage earner to the corporate executive said NO. What a wonderful place that would be. People need to step up. You are saying that I am the problem. Fuck you. You and other leftist like you are the problem.
Yes. In regards to gun laws. Masks. Etc.
Half the people here and all the leftists would say Rosa Parks should have sat in the back of the bus and contacted her Congress people. After all it is the law. And the cops enforcing it were just doing their job.
Spineless and no foundation of principles /morals etc. like a bunch of cheap whores
Plenty of stores are putting up the signs but not enforcing the mandate. Kind of a "they can make me put up a sign, but they can't make me do anything about it" attitude. 90 minutes from Houston is a relatively small town near my deer lease. No one is wearing a mask, at least not over their face. You may see one pulled down around a neck on occasion, but VERY few being worn effectively. Every store and restaurant has a sign that says "masks are required." There are not enough law enforcement around- anywhere- to actually enforce these requirements. It is up to the store as to whether they enforce or not. Wear a mask. Don't wear a mask. I don't care. I just suggest carrying a mask, as you may run into a store owner that is enforcing the posted rules. And, if you cannot abide by the rules, smile and walk away. Getting belligerent just proves you're a jack ass.
Yes. I frequent a store like that. Now the state is increasing pressure on them.
Fuck people that support state enforcing masking
And there is the other problem. Business owners willfully bending over to have their rights violated. Every business owner should get together with every other business owner and say FU to the local city state and federal regarding shut down in mask-wearing.
The only reason everything has gotten out of hand is because there are more people willing to give up their rights and bend over in fear then there are people willing to stand up for their rights.
Sadly, I think we're at a Tipping Point where God needs to intervene and flood this fuker her again
Stores mandated by the state to reject their customers and lose money at penalty of fines, closures, and prison. All this for a political power grab under the guise of safety.
I hate that you see this as perfectly acceptable. Sad. Disgusting.
Not willful. The police were sent to one of the places I go and threatened to shut them down.
Its almost by reading this thread that the mask debate issue is working as intended.
The dems arent stupid, they absolutely know what side the majority is on this issue. Thats partly WHY its an issue.
Tell me, how did the masks become red versus blue? There was never going to be legitimate discussion on this issue...hate to tell ya.
Yeah, and taking it out on the 15yo, or the elderly greeters, baggers, even store managers aint the solution here. I guess that makes me a lefty too.
The dems arent stupid, they absolutely know what side the majority is on this issue. Thats partly WHY its an issue.
Tell me, how did the masks become red versus blue? There was never going to be legitimate discussion on this issue...hate to tell ya.
Yeah, and taking it out on the 15yo, or the elderly greeters, baggers, even store managers aint the solution here. I guess that makes me a lefty too.
The tech is so cheap now.....get rid of all humans, replace them with a cheap Made in China camera (probably with back channel to BeiJing software) and use the money saved to fund communism.
Cameras at the NH tolls I went through this weekend look like the Target Spotter jobs.
Im guessing the big expense for the surveillance state is data storage and the super computer to go through all the information in a timely manner.
Wait until the shit goes "self aware" and decides it doesnt need humans......they should make a movie. When Hollywood had its own agenda, imagination and made money they may have.
If you didn't make life miserable for the hourly workers at that store, you're a leftist and part of the problem. Heard it here on the Hide.
It is hard to not be emotional about this. I do have a close family member with pre-existing conditions that exposure to COVID will likely be fatal. So listening to people spout rhetoric about how masks are useless or just sheep being sheep because they don't want a mask on does piss me off. Especially when you ask them for proof to back up their claims, and all you get is hyperbole, rhetoric from some alt-right site, or just flat out name calling. I've had to use the ignore feature I got sick of the children who feel they know more than the doctors who study this, the government officials from BOTH parties that say wear a mask, and decided to do what the feel is their right, ignoring the rights of everyone they come into contact with. It does not surprise me they have taken their shit attitudes off the keyboard and are berating some poor kid working at a supermarket.
Having stuff shipped to you by a chosen "Master of the Universe" is a goal.
Kill the already struggling local store and make more people dependent on fewer choices, and the "fewer" will be a willing co-opt of the tyrrany.
The industrialists thought they would control Hitler.
Where are the n95 masks, you know masks that likely are effective?
Are they intentionally being kept from the plebs? All being bought up by world govts and the elites?
10s of millions of n95 made per MONTH, yet not widely available to the avg citizen? Why?
Where are the masks?!
Are they intentionally being kept from the plebs? All being bought up by world govts and the elites?
10s of millions of n95 made per MONTH, yet not widely available to the avg citizen? Why?
Where are the masks?!
Keep your family member in safe exclusion. I wish them the best.
Everyone else......Carry On!
Our local grocery store has their "Harvest Trolley" delivery service. Order your groceries on line and they show up at your door. Not killing the local business. Primary Arms is doing free shipping to local addresses. I continue to support them, even though I currently can't walk into their "show room." Restaurants that are not currently "dine in" have adopted curb service and delivery models- neither of which require a mask for the recipient. Support local business.
You guys have the reading comprehension of a retard. In the same post you are referencing I also said to ignore them. In fact I said it first. I then went on to say cuss them if you want. I never said to go belligerent or to kick a Wal Mart greeter's ass. That's where you guys start putting words in my mouth. Do I ignore people. Absolutely. If I have to piss, I walk in a gas station and ignore the clerks screaming about masks, go piss and walk out. If I want a drink I grab it and through a couple bucks on the counter and walk out. Self serve. Have I gotten mad and verbally abusive. You betcha. I mother fucked a restaurant manager up and down a couple weeks ago. I've had enough already. My town doesnt comply with the bullshit anymore. I travel alot. This is where I run into issues.
My point is to fight back against this shit. This is exactly the reason for the masks. Its to cause controlled chaos. The overlords know people are cowards and if things get in convenient they will comply. You need to understand that you are wearing a mask because you are being forced to and for no reason other than conformity. You are conforming to an authoritarian government. Even the lefty pro-tyranny fucks won't like what's next.
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At the local grocery I frequent I see the "personal shoppers" competing with me for products.
They aint actually putting a lot of effort in to choosing those items you like to grade before buying....whatever broccoli is on top of the pile is the one that goes into the bag.....box checked.
On top of that you pay a higher cost individually or we are all paying a higher cost to allow that level of service.
Restaurants are not making it.
In an already competitive business at 100 percent potential capacity many fail.
Very few will continue indefinitely restricted to less than 50% potential.
Government Soup Kitchens will soon be the new dining out experience......social distancing will be strictly enforced, masks will be mandatory.
My biggest savings over the past 8 months has been restaurants. I was good for about $200-$300/week eating out with the family of 4.
That money has been removed from the restaurant expense budget to ammo and cool buys on EBAY/SH PX.
My barber, now open by appt and with contact tracing, lost my $25 every two weeks and is now a $50 set of clippers that I have become very adept at using. I look super fly. This will be the end of an already fading (no pun intended) male barber industry. The $100 plus/appt chick hairdressers are not doing much better.
But hey "Safety!"
I am in the same boat. Keep your family safe. Ignore the idiots, most of them do not have a scientific background.
Smart stores figured it out. One of my kid's favorite hobby/game shop is doing well. When this started, they started posting all their new offerings online, and you could arrange curbside pickup for what you wanted. Phone and Email still worked for seeing what they had and placing orders. A lot of other non-essential places figured it out and stayed afloat. The places I've seen close because of COVID were already circling the drain anyway.
And now that things are opening up, going out isn't a problem as long as people are considerate towards others. Simply things like wear a mask inside, practice social distancing, if outside and you have to pass someone closer than 6' put that mask on till the other party passes does help, and even allows people with those pre-existing conditions get out and enjoy life. And if you are going onto someone's private property and they ask you to year a mask, don't be an asshole about it. Telling someone to be remain inside because they can't act civil to others, well, just shows more lack of character from that person.
And now that things are opening up, going out isn't a problem as long as people are considerate towards others. Simply things like wear a mask inside, practice social distancing, if outside and you have to pass someone closer than 6' put that mask on till the other party passes does help, and even allows people with those pre-existing conditions get out and enjoy life. And if you are going onto someone's private property and they ask you to year a mask, don't be an asshole about it. Telling someone to be remain inside because they can't act civil to others, well, just shows more lack of character from that person.
So as long as everyone conforms its all good?
This is not freedom.
Nor should freedom be negligently dangerous or inconsiderate of others.
but.....
this Plandemic has not exhibited an existence that requires the "New Norm" we are expected to accept.
No argument about the "personal shoppers." My wife will put in a curb side order for many items- generally those things that you don't need to grade. However, she added onions to the order recently. We got a bag with an obviously bad onion in it. Quick call to the store and removed from bill, no questions asked. Sure, we didn't have onions, but curb side delivery is really just a convenience as we can be doing other things and still be getting the grocery shopping done. How much is your time worth? I know what my employer pays for an hour of my time. It is a fuck ton more than the nominal fee to have a high school kid pull Bounty paper towels and Charmin off the shelf. Go into the store for produce.
Restaurants don't make it in a good economy. Hell, 50% fail within the first year, and many more fail within 3-5. But, the real restauanteurs figure out how to survive in any economy. We have a pretty swank restaurant close to the house- you know, real table cloths, servers in ties, "would you like to have a glass of wine at the bar while we prepare your table?". They have 3 people dedicated to curb side delivery from open to close. I'm pretty sure they aren't hurting as much as they could.
You're just not dedicated to seeing your barber survive.
I ditched "my barber" more than 10 years ago. How hard is "#1 on the back and the sides, and bring it up into a high blend?" Not so hard that my wife couldn't figure it out. Then, when I could no longer ignore the forming bald spot I took it down to the scalp across the board. If your barber wants to survive, he should cut women's hair. That is where the money is, and won't do it themselves- at least not long term...No argument about the "personal shoppers." My wife will put in a curb side order for many items- generally those things that you don't need to grade. However, she added onions to the order recently. We got a bag with an obviously bad onion in it. Quick call to the store and removed from bill, no questions asked. Sure, we didn't have onions, but curb side delivery is really just a convenience as we can be doing other things and still be getting the grocery shopping done. How much is your time worth? I know what my employer pays for an hour of my time. It is a fuck ton more than the nominal fee to have a high school kid pull Bounty paper towels and Charmin off the shelf. Go into the store for produce.
Restaurants don't make it in a good economy. Hell, 50% fail within the first year, and many more fail within 3-5. But, the real restauanteurs figure out how to survive in any economy. We have a pretty swank restaurant close to the house- you know, real table cloths, servers in ties, "would you like to have a glass of wine at the bar while we prepare your table?". They have 3 people dedicated to curb side delivery from open to close. I'm pretty sure they aren't hurting as much as they could.
You're just not dedicated to seeing your barber survive.
My wife works from home now. Works at least an hour more per day (salaried) and the business has transferred all rent maintenance, heat and utility costs to us. Previously my auto thermostat used to kick back heat and AC at 0900 until 1700 - Not anymore.
Sure because the kids now spend 3 of 5 days at home she is there but all that tax money that was paying for school infrastructure/maintenance is now mine - and guess what taxes are still up $300 this year to pay for the in construction new high school.
Where is my tax cut for services not provided.
Sure I go to restaurants with the intent of getting a good meal. The bigger draw is service. Getting a great meal in a styrofoam box and taking it home to only have to set a plate and clean up makes it not worth the effort. Ill fire up the grill and get the fresh off the heat meal and do the work anyway. The actually cooking of the meal isnt the joy of eating out, its the service that accompanies it - someone brings my drinks, someone clears my plate, someone does the dishes.
Wifes best friend is a "stylist" she went from being able to take as many appointments as time will allow to now working maybe two to three days a week. Chicks either through fear or a realignment of priorities are not seeing their stylists. Some of the work has gone to "bootleg" meeting clients outside of the shop appointments.
These stores were open for essential business .. I have a medical issue with masks..
it’s a dangerous game when you have a small enough town to be the only Walmart in 3 hours.
Think of the crazies and backwoods types that come to my wal mart. For once someone with all my issues can blend in and look normal. I do feel sorry for the door greeters sometimes.
If stores are allowed to be open because they are “essential” then “essential” stores should not be able to deny anyone for anything that’s not law.
Then there’s the arbitrary authority. People acting like they can refuse you if you sneeze.
Gov buildings claiming they have the right to decide who can come in and get the paperwork they need to prove to Canada they are essential, so they can be allowed to travel..
Too soon to bring up a vaccine?
And they have successfully separated and distanced the young from the old.
Who do you think coulda yelled the loudest about this incoming wave of communism? How many old guys sitting all alone could educate all of us to life in general. At a bare minimum anyone that old can tell you what not to do.
it’s a dangerous game when you have a small enough town to be the only Walmart in 3 hours.
Think of the crazies and backwoods types that come to my wal mart. For once someone with all my issues can blend in and look normal. I do feel sorry for the door greeters sometimes.
If stores are allowed to be open because they are “essential” then “essential” stores should not be able to deny anyone for anything that’s not law.
Then there’s the arbitrary authority. People acting like they can refuse you if you sneeze.
Gov buildings claiming they have the right to decide who can come in and get the paperwork they need to prove to Canada they are essential, so they can be allowed to travel..
Too soon to bring up a vaccine?
And they have successfully separated and distanced the young from the old.
Who do you think coulda yelled the loudest about this incoming wave of communism? How many old guys sitting all alone could educate all of us to life in general. At a bare minimum anyone that old can tell you what not to do.
Instead, we get designer masks from amazon or masks to make political statements etc. Matching masks with oufits. And while the debate of these cloth masks rage, and people rage at each other, this fundamental question goes unanswered.
If the pandemic is as bad as media, politicians etc lead us to believe, then where is are the masks that we can all agree on ARE likely effective?
The fact that this goes unanswered, and ignored only adds to my skepticism of how dangerous covid19 is to those who are not one foot off the cliff already. Its a simple correlation actually.
In the meantime, ill just be a dick and do whatever the fk I want. Thats my individual right, which trumps civic duty. After all, thats not what people were hoping for, you know...to demonize you and to not use as fodder to further an agenda. And while the strong feelings are understanable. It is imo that there are many battles some more worthy and some with high levels of risk for little gain. And while the intention might be good, does more harm to the cause than good.
