That would be Juan Sebastian Elcano. Would've been Magellan but he was mildly inconvenienced by the Filipinos.
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Well, they probably had some awesome brothels, even back then! Did he land in Olongapo? Say, near Magsaysay street?
Sirhr
Do you think the taste of gash is the same today as it was hundreds of years ago ?
Well, since they have soap even in Thailand now… I’d say ‘no.’
I’m going to go off and throw up a bit now.
Thanks.
I believe it was more along the lines of the inconvenience one felt against charging Moros with only a .38 Long Colt for comfort.
Nah, he invented the step thru scooter so all the mods in the UK would have something to do.
That commercial makes me want to throw up even more…
The last thing I want to see on tv is some middle-aged nasty bull-dyke selling some potions to take the stank out of her gooch patch. Fucking gross even think I g about it, much less getting on tv to talk about dank twat smell.
For the love of god how does that shit get on tv anyway?
Sirhr
Magellan was the first.
Or, at least the handful of his men who survived and made it back from his expedition.
I am indigenous, I was born on this piece of dirt just like my ancestors back generations. More government word play trying to redefine words to control narrative and make us hate eachother instead of dealing with their treasonous asses.
No! Out with your heart!!!I'm an indigenous earthling, does that count?
Yay, me
That’s why we don’t use the term Indians anymore it’s offensive, instead we call them Native Americans, in Vespucci’s honor. Derp, derp, derp.
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No, he was some fucking wop cartographer.
You're thinking of Fernando de Magallanes.
If we came upon those blood thirsty savages today, we would likely exterminate them for the Devil Worshipers that they were.
We have come upon people like this.
WEF, British royals diddling kids, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci.
But we are ok with it because they do their killing with vaccines and their screwing of kids with the help of government institutions.
I am a direct descendant of Squire Boone through Daniel Boone's sister Elizabeth who married an Indian, Creek I think.
Also related to Daniel Morgan and others.
I am German, Irish, Scottish, Lithuanian Jew, and German, so I am basically a walking packet of confusion and genocide.
I celebrate "Indigenous Peoples Day" by remembering all the good done by colonialism world wide.
Make Colonialism Great Again.
Also related to Daniel Morgan and others.
I am German, Irish, Scottish, Lithuanian Jew, and German, so I am basically a walking packet of confusion and genocide.
I celebrate "Indigenous Peoples Day" by remembering all the good done by colonialism world wide.
Make Colonialism Great Again.
Iron eyes cody a true ......Italian
Ima print that on a shirt and walk around Ann Arbor wearing it
The idea that early humans came to North America via the Bering land bridge during the ice age is interesting to me. I enjoy learning about ancient history.
When "Kennewick man" was found, authorities initially thought the remains were either modern, or at least from the historic period. Forensic anthropologist James Chatters and other scientists determined the remains were 8,000 years old, and eventually determined to be more closely related to the Ainu people of Hokkaido than to modern Native Americans currently living in the area (Kennewick, Washington). The skeleton had an ancient type of stone spear point embedded in its hip, and the bone had grown over. It also had other grievous injuries, such as crushed ribs, which had also healed. Clearly Kennewick man had lived a hard, violent life, and survived.
Almost immediately, dispute and legal battles began between the US Army Corp of Engineers, Indian tribes, and scientists, and lasted quite a few years before it ended. The whole story is fascinating.
I attended a slide/power point lecture by Smithsonian scientist/forensic anthropologist Doug Owsley, who detailed the entire story from start until that point a few years ago. The initial confusion came about because James Chatters used the word "Caucasian" to describe Kennewick man's remains. The skull/teeth were entirely different from modern Native Americans, who claimed Kennewick man as their ancestor.
Ultimately, a Danish team concluded that dna evidence most closely related the remains to modern indians, and that supposedly settled that. Dr. Owsley's conclusion: (a direct quote here) "That's BULLSHIT!"
Dr. Dennis Stanford (also of the Smithsonian) has ideas/evidence that suggest early humans in N. America came along the ice in boats from Northern Europe. Stone point types (Clovis) found ALL ACROSS N. America support the idea, because pre-Clovis point styles are very widely found in Europe, but NOT found in Siberia. So, Dennis Stanford thinks it was the prehistoric French who came here, but the idea isn't as widely supported by academia as the Siberia migration thing.
In other reading, ancient humans buried in a swamp in Florida 8,000 years ago were discovered at a development called Windover Farms. Everything was put on hold while remains are studied. It's another fascinating story.
When "Kennewick man" was found, authorities initially thought the remains were either modern, or at least from the historic period. Forensic anthropologist James Chatters and other scientists determined the remains were 8,000 years old, and eventually determined to be more closely related to the Ainu people of Hokkaido than to modern Native Americans currently living in the area (Kennewick, Washington). The skeleton had an ancient type of stone spear point embedded in its hip, and the bone had grown over. It also had other grievous injuries, such as crushed ribs, which had also healed. Clearly Kennewick man had lived a hard, violent life, and survived.
Almost immediately, dispute and legal battles began between the US Army Corp of Engineers, Indian tribes, and scientists, and lasted quite a few years before it ended. The whole story is fascinating.
I attended a slide/power point lecture by Smithsonian scientist/forensic anthropologist Doug Owsley, who detailed the entire story from start until that point a few years ago. The initial confusion came about because James Chatters used the word "Caucasian" to describe Kennewick man's remains. The skull/teeth were entirely different from modern Native Americans, who claimed Kennewick man as their ancestor.
Ultimately, a Danish team concluded that dna evidence most closely related the remains to modern indians, and that supposedly settled that. Dr. Owsley's conclusion: (a direct quote here) "That's BULLSHIT!"
Dr. Dennis Stanford (also of the Smithsonian) has ideas/evidence that suggest early humans in N. America came along the ice in boats from Northern Europe. Stone point types (Clovis) found ALL ACROSS N. America support the idea, because pre-Clovis point styles are very widely found in Europe, but NOT found in Siberia. So, Dennis Stanford thinks it was the prehistoric French who came here, but the idea isn't as widely supported by academia as the Siberia migration thing.
In other reading, ancient humans buried in a swamp in Florida 8,000 years ago were discovered at a development called Windover Farms. Everything was put on hold while remains are studied. It's another fascinating story.
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Well truthfully it was Magalhães to begin with because Portuguese.
I went to a Poospatuck reservation once, but I didn't see and Indians.
Just black folks selling dirt weed and off brand cigarettes for super cheap.
Just black folks selling dirt weed and off brand cigarettes for super cheap.
I went to Quapaw, Oklahoma one year for their 4th of July cultural event, and was invited to dance, but declined as I felt quite out of place. Going there, and to the Cherokee Labor Day (Cherokee National Holiday) celebration at Talequah was like being in a foreign country, I was the only white boy and very consious of it... even though I make bows & arrows, stone points, braintan deer skins, make pottery with local clay, eat edible weeds, etc. Traditional "NDN" culture is very much alive & well in Oklahoma.
I've encountered some very interesting NA people along my way. At the flintknapping events, I met a direct descendant of Geronimo who showed us a photo of her (grandfather? great-grandfather?) who looked EXACTLY like Geronimo, his father?/grandfather. The connection modern flintknapping has with history just blows my mind. Every stone point ever made is still in existance, because they never rot. I've only ever found one, and after looking around a bit, discovered the site was actually a place where they were manufacturing stone tools. Located just west of Pomme de Terre lake in SW Missouri. People have been camping around this region for at least 10,000 years. The "Big Eddy" site along the Sac river near Stockton, Missouri was washing away from the hydro power water surge, so Corps of Engineers paid MSU archaeology dept to excavate it and found artifacts going 16' + down, and evidence of items OLDER than Clovis. There are lots of known sites around here.
At Talequah, I saw the Cherokee actor Wes Studi, but I didn't want to bother him.
In our local small town, we have the oldest 4th of July parade west of the Mississippi. A few years ago, there was a badass looking indian guy riding an Appaloosa, leading a "captive" white woman riding a horse with her hands tied. I talked with this guy, who is a direct descendant of Quanah Parker.
I've encountered some very interesting NA people along my way. At the flintknapping events, I met a direct descendant of Geronimo who showed us a photo of her (grandfather? great-grandfather?) who looked EXACTLY like Geronimo, his father?/grandfather. The connection modern flintknapping has with history just blows my mind. Every stone point ever made is still in existance, because they never rot. I've only ever found one, and after looking around a bit, discovered the site was actually a place where they were manufacturing stone tools. Located just west of Pomme de Terre lake in SW Missouri. People have been camping around this region for at least 10,000 years. The "Big Eddy" site along the Sac river near Stockton, Missouri was washing away from the hydro power water surge, so Corps of Engineers paid MSU archaeology dept to excavate it and found artifacts going 16' + down, and evidence of items OLDER than Clovis. There are lots of known sites around here.
At Talequah, I saw the Cherokee actor Wes Studi, but I didn't want to bother him.
In our local small town, we have the oldest 4th of July parade west of the Mississippi. A few years ago, there was a badass looking indian guy riding an Appaloosa, leading a "captive" white woman riding a horse with her hands tied. I talked with this guy, who is a direct descendant of Quanah Parker.
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Bought a log of Skoal from the Nisqually Tobacco Outlet, there, did my part.
No indian in the Americas had a horse before the Spanish left some for them in the 16th century. They had little or no use of Iron or steel, very little cloth and other than tossing sticks at each other, not a clue about gunpowder. They prowled their neighbors and constantly stole from each other, engaged in rape and slavery, human sacrifice and cannibalism.
If left undisturbed for the last 500 years they would be wearing assless pants, shitting on every rock and pissing on every tree, having accomplished absolutely nothing on two continents.
Go to a reservation sometime and you can see their love for nature in the mounds of garbage and wrecked cars or destroyed homes.
If left undisturbed for the last 500 years they would be wearing assless pants, shitting on every rock and pissing on every tree, having accomplished absolutely nothing on two continents.
Go to a reservation sometime and you can see their love for nature in the mounds of garbage and wrecked cars or destroyed homes.
Okay, my reading is dated and my memory foggy, but isn't true flint found only in Europe (France and Spain) and chert (different mineral composition) in the US?
No challenge, just a curiosity question.
I am still in awe when I drive through the reservation.
The trash pile starts at the front door - and they continue piling it wherever they can - while leaving a small footpath to get to the door. Broken cars, couches, refrigerators, and then just plain old garbage. They just park farther and farther away, rather than clean it up.
Lately I'm beginning to think it's some form of Native American defensive perimeter?
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I've traveled to a couple of spots on the globe that have a similar tradition.
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Didnt you know trash and junk is a sign of wealth and vitality in some communities.
You are correct that true "flint" is from Europe, (not necessarily limited to Spain or France, though) but everybody calls flintknapping flintknapping, whether it's flint, chert, obsidian, agate, plate glass, fiber optic glass, or whatever. (Yes, people knap lots of modern stuff, even broken toilet ceramic, called "thunder chert".) Here in the US we have lots of workable rock, and the proper names for it are more than I can remember. It's all "flint"... Experienced knappers today show up to a knap-in hauling flatbed trailers of stone for sale and people buy & sell it. Good quality knapping material is expensive. I don't know how much it goes for today, but 20+ years ago decent rock sold for $5 a pound or more. Stuff that was already spalled up or shaped into rudimentary pre-forms sells for a premium.
People ask, why does it cost so much? The answer is that it's very high quality (works easily), the colors of rock are unbelievably beautiful (!!!), and the guy has to drive to where it exists, dig it up, reduce the waste, haul it home, possibly heat-treat it by cooking the rock in a kiln, then transport it to the sale site...
Quality rock was a natural resource that brought the people back year after year... and still does.
I know guys who are so skilled, that they sell everything they make and their stuff is collectable. Some guys use modern tools like copper, rock saws, etc. while others only use historically "correct" tools such as hammer stones, bone, or antler. I could go on & on about it. "Primitive" skills are anything but.
I read a bit about knapping several decades ago. Don't remember much, but it was very interesting. As I recall, obsidian is/can be the sharpest. Seems I read some plastic surgeons used obsidian scalpels as it scars less.
Also, I think it kills White Walkers.
Greetings fellow carbon-based life form...I'm an indigenous earthling, does that count?
Yay, me
Sirhr
At the same time they picked up the 7th Cavalry's hats and rifles from Little Bighorn?
"Hummmm.... White man's Hat keep rain off head. Feather stuck in band lets water from sky fall on Laughing with Food's scalp which sucks. Me wear white man hat now."
"Hey, Laughing with Food... Check out Limping Buffalo. He put on White Man boots and is not Limping any more. Now we call him Big Line Dancer."
I am pretty sure that's how it went down...
Sirhr
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