Rifle Scopes Mirage and magnification relationship?

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I have a few 25x scopes(Razor, TT) and am interested in a 35 or 45 x scope so I can use as a spotter also.

Does a 5-25x set at 25x get affected more by mirage then a 35x scope set at 25?

It gets pretty hot in Texas. Does a spotting scope do better with mirage due to its size?
 
Different optics "see" Mirage differently. Say, Vortex vs Nightforce. But like Frank said if you compare apples to apples glass wise, more mag equals more mirage. And more rain and more snow... my 42 and 32 NXS show the same mirage at 22x and my 5.5-22 does.
 
I have a few 25x scopes(Razor, TT) and am interested in a 35 or 45 x scope so I can use as a spotter also.

Does a 5-25x set at 25x get affected more by mirage then a 35x scope set at 25?

It gets pretty hot in Texas. Does a spotting scope do better with mirage due to its size?
To answer your first question, no. If both optics are set at 25X, they will be affected by mirage in a similar way.

To answer your second question, the impact of the mirage is going to be influenced optically by two aspects; depth of field and magnification. It so happens that DoF and magnification are related. But to your point, if the spotting scope and the riflescope are set at the same magnification the mirage will affect them in a similar way. See answer 1 above.

Of course, it depends on how you use the optics and what your goal is. Let me explain. I'm an F-class guy and I compete year round, mostly in south Texas. I use a spotting scope and riflescope when firing individually. My spotting scope is a 27X fixed optic with a long eye relief eyepiece and my riflescope is a 5-50X56 optics set usually at 40X. I sometimes crank it to 50X but it's mostly at 40X, all the time.

I focus my spotting scope to about 650 yards downrange and thus provide me with about the deepest DoF possible that is also useful. This means I get the mirage from about 400-450 yards all the way to the target line; I want to observe as much mirage as possible. On the other hand, my riflescope is focused exactly on the target at 1000 yards, and I would have to go to a DoF calculator but I would be surprised if the DoF starts any closer that 900+ yards downrange. In my riflescope I only observe the mirage at the target.

Does that mean that my riflescope is unaffected by the heat waves from 0 to 900 yards? No, but they don't show up as a river like they do closer to the target on in my spotting scope.
 
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As others have said, magnification magnifies everything. Here are a few Phone Skope videos through my NF TS82. The further zoomed videos where I used the zoom on the spotter instead of the camera (sometimes the camera is finicky in the scope adapter, I use whatever records without issue). You can also see the difference in vapor trail with the different zoom levels.

1000m with about 30x zoom on the spotter and the rest on the phone X (iphone X hated not being zoomed and kept switching between the two cameras). Relatively low mirage


800m with about 35x zoom on the spotter and low zoom on the iphone X


1000m with 40x or so zoom on the spotter and very little on the iphone 8 (just enough to get rid of the "ring")


800m with 20-25x zoom on the spotter and very little on the iphone 8


700m with 40x zoom on the spotter and light zoom on the iphone X - high mirage and shooting 308 instead of the others that are 300 win
 
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