Re: MOA at 100 yards is it possible with a 22lr?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: armorpl8chikn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had to take my elderly mother to town and had to cut my last response short.
Shooter, rifle, and ammo all things perfect can it be done consistently and at what range.
50yds pretty easy.
100yds occasionally.
150yds occasionally on a really calm day.
200yds rarely on a calm day, and when all the cosmic tumblers click in place.
Shooter: The biggest factor I admit and never denied. Most shooters I have seen that went from a Savage or CZ to an Anschutz had a marked improvement in their score. Maybe partly due to the Crash Davis analogy I often quote:
"If you believe you're playing well because you're getting laid, or because you're not getting laid, or because you wear women's underwear, then you *are*! And you should know that!"
I believe mostly due to the fact that they spent $1200 on an actual olympic grade rifle.
I have a rare oportunity to study as many as 40 shooters each month March thru Octobe, and study them I do. I have coached many who want advice and I have watched a few flounder in spite of good advice. There are a few that do not want to be told what they are doing wrong. I will stick by what a first mate once told me on a gulf stream charter. I asked him what kind of people he liked to fish with the most. He never batted an eye,"women and children." He said they listen because they don't already know everything. He said most men's egos demand that they at least act like they have done this a thousand times. If they own a boat even worse. I wish I could tell you my experiences with this little phenomenon in shooting matches. I cannot tell you the stories because too many people would know exactly who I am talking about. I would encourage you to have fun first and foremost. When you have truly done the best you can do you will know better than me. I can only tell you what it feels like. When you shoot a relay, or a stage in a match or just hammered out a group you should feel some physical drain. I have shot relays and could barely get back to my feet, or stand on my feet, etc, depending on what position I shot from. It means you have shut off the static of life and there is nothing in the world but you, the rifle and the target. You aren't thinking about the next relay, whats for lunch, how many points you shot the last relay, what the guy you want to beat is doing, whether your wife is cheating on you, etc etc ad nauseum. Think of it like this; If you are shooting 40 shots in a match it is not a 40 shot match, it is 40 one shot matches. When you concentrate in that manner you are on your way to success.
Another reference to Bull Durham I know, but when Crash gets in the batters box and his mind gets to rambling he calls "time" after litterally telling himself to get the crap out of his head, great scene. When we get in the "batters box" and our mind rambles call time and clear the mind before you squeeze the trigger.
Ammo:
Forget the bargain bin. I see great shooters every month who won't pay the price for true match grade ammo. Be prepared to spend a small fortune if you want ultimate rimfire accuracy. When you find a great ammo and a great lot number, buy all you can stand to buy. That is the oldest rimfire advice in existence, a no brainer. We have a guy that shoots with us that still has some of the dimple Federal, and he has won a lot of cash at our matches including last years championship. Lucky for the rest of us his supply is running low
A common mistake I have seen is guys that use one brand for 57yds and another brand for 112,163 and 210/240yds. This is a huge mistake. You cannot mix and match lubes and not expect some "strange" results. If you want to shoot R-50 at 50 and then maybe Fed. 922A at longer disatances that is fine, they have the same lube and both are made by RWS. Lapua has teh broadest range of like lubes,all Wolf,SK, and Lapua Center X, same lube. I call it eel snot. I think Midas is the same as well...not sure never bought any. Just stick with the same lube no matter what unless you are gonna clean your rifle or put a lot of fouler shots down the bore.
Rifle:
You don't want to hear this. Generally the more you spend the more accuracy you will get. You have to decide what each minimal gain is worth to you, for your application. I have seen very few rifles that were not adequate for hunting out to 50 yds. I have also seen few rifles adequate for hunting at and past 100yds, 22lr mind you. Would I shoot a rabbit at 125 yds with my Anschutz? Damn right I would, if of course I knew the exact range and was confident with conditions. Not in an unknown amount of crosswind, no. You will get what you pay for. Only you can decide what you need in a rifle. If you need the ultimate in accuracy don't expect to find it at Wally World.</div></div>
Upon our last match setup. Armorpl8chickn and the gang witnessed a 5 round, 1" group at 225 yards. It can be done and the rig running that is amazing, the bullets are top of the line and the shooter is dead-eye. Craziest thing I ever saw, and immediatly knew I have a long way to go with my equipment and my skills.
