Most ridiculous price you've seen on 9mm

[wbnash]

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On the other hand, I bought 3x 150 round boxes of Browning 9mm FMJ for $35 per box locally a couple of weeks ago...

Cheaper than Dirt has been one of the worst price gougers. Supply and demand is one thing...this is way beyond that.

 

[Grant77]

Around my area, Primers by themselves are going for what a 9mm round cost a year ago.

WTF that’s nuts...

 

[Sasquatch-148]

Saw Cheaper than Dirt was at 99.98$ for 59 rounds of FMJ . Jeez , I feel dirty even typing that

 

[DRT308]

My legs has had 9mm the past couple of months for $19. / Box of 50. They've been good at keeping prices down.

 

[NovaHunter]

WTF that’s nuts...

Yep, Smal pistol and small rifle primers are going for $110 to $150 per 1000. It's crazy.

 

[Med Beast]

Dude, that shit straight up pisses me off. I understand capitalism & as a small business owners understand the desire to turn, not only a profit, but a better profit. Nevertheless, get fucking real America! BiMart gets shipments of 9 milli every effing Tuesday & sells it for $12.99 a box.!! Same price as most every DECENT American sold it for only a FEW MOS AGO.!. Not a year, not 6 mos! But literally back in July!! Fuck these greedy fucking fuckers! I live in Central Oregon & I hope every FFL in Central Oregon reads this! Many of you know me, my name is Chaz & y’all need to wake the fuck up! It says everything about your character when you start hiding like pussy’s behind the, “it’s basic business, my costs go up your costs go up..” I can STILL find “reasonably” priced ammo on Ammoseek & purchase it a couple times a week!. & could turn & sell it & STILL make a profit! For less than your greedy bullshit prices..! But given the fact that I believe in the dying notion of ‘good old fashion “ethics” ‘ I wouldn’t..Suck in that, queers!

 

[Med Beast]

Depending on the load .223 wasn't worth reloading, no one ever said don't buy components when they were cheap. The only thing I feel I missed out on was Wolf Gold 55 grain FMJ bullets 4k for $240. For 100 yard reduced target rifle matches they were one of the best light bullets I found. I was buying ammo at 28 cents a round and loading it would have been 17 cents a round, not as big of a savings as loading 77 SMK but 77's were 20 cents a piece.

I kept saying I was going to order the Wolf's and put it off, then the COVID buying started. Next spring they may be 6 cents a bullet again.

Am I understanding you correctly.. 4K rnds of Wolf Gold for $240..??? Wtf did you find that deal, in Afghanistan..?? I watch ammo prices like a hawk, non-stop & have NEVER seen anything even close to that..! Regular steel cased Wolf ammo Was $150 per K in the late 90’s..! You had to’ve meant to say, ‘per 1K..”

 

[Baer45]

Remember the ones who rape their customers now and the ones who want to make it thru and survive when things are plentiful

From the other side of the counter. I go to a 36 lane indoor range that cost 10 mill to build. In this last panic rush I have seen wholesale prices go from 9$ box of 9mm to as high as 30$. Unlike the last Obama panic where prices were held steady but no one could get ammo, it appears the manufacturers have decided to let the market set the price this time with the idea being you can at least get some if you need it. Our range is dependent on members but when it cost them $30-35$ a box of 9 mm and limited to 2 boxes...it’s tough to keep the doors open. Remember, it is just as hard for the retailers to get ammo in a shortage as it is for you. Anyone that thinks retailers are rolling in cash now don’tget it....e would love to Sell 5 boxes for 12.00/box any day. If anyone on this chat has been through the last panic, I personally can’t feel to sorry for you. Most of the regular shooters and RELOADER’s at the indoor and outdoor club I go to learned their lesson the first time and have so much stored they are able to help those in a jam....

 

[Med Beast]

My legs has had 9mm the past couple of months for $19. / Box of 50. They've been good at keeping prices down.

“My legs”..?

 

[vinniedelpino]

Ft Worth gun show. CCI 400 SMP = $19.99 per 100ct.

I just paid $5.19 and I was bitching about it.

 

[TreyMeTrey]

Dang...... Now that is Price Gouging !!! That's a good reason not to Patronize that establishment any more!

 

[Med Beast]

FGMM 7.62x51 went up 35 cents a round in a week at the same store. Fuck it...

Will just have to ride this out

That’s literally nothing, dude.. That kind of price fluctuation in the world of 168 grn HP/OTBT Nat Match rnds, is literally to be expected from one FFL to another. But given the average 400% markup, across the board in America..! Personally, I’d suck that .35 cents right T-F up.. But hey, I only shoot an M1A Nat-Match in a Sage EBR Platform.. So, that’s just me..

 

[Baer45]

Just saw that my LGS cancelled my backorder, without telling me, so they could sell my $300 case for $899.

Edit to correct new gouged price $899 not $800, $299 case is being sold at $45 for 50 rounds, 230 grain ball.

what happened is about the same time overnight the whoLe sellers jumped their prices through the roof.if you had bought the ammo, that was not ethical but the retailers are taking a ride also. My range ordered over a million rounds forbulk milspec from overseas and took six weeks to get it by boat. In the meantime they passed on opportunities knowing this was on its way...When it came they sold it and refunded our cash they used to buy it...talk about anger in the shop...

 

[SCSCHNUR]

So I'm in a local sports shop and happened to notice they had about 10 boxes of 9mm. So I grabbed 1 box to make use of the opportunity, nothing crazy. This was for a box of 50 Armscor FMJ 9mm. It rang up at the register at $65!! I said "that has to be a mistake." Was told "nope, do you have any idea how hard it is to find 9mm?" I laughed, because I'd purchased a box of the same exact ammo about 4 days earlier in another store for $14. When I told them that, the guy looked visibly embarrassed. Needless to day, I did not buy.

Talk about gouging. Anyone seen higher?

This is why I reload. Obama started this crap years ago.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

$100 for prestine surplus still in cosemoline Bulgarian 9mm Makarov, lol.

Oh, you be talking about ammo. Probably 5000 rounds dirt cheap brown and silver bear. You guys are carrying the wrong 9mm for these times.

 

[Bender]

I didn't make it to my LGS about my case of .45 ACP. The sad thing is I was a customer when the owner had a table at the gunshow in the mid 90's. A few years ago I took the flyer in to his shop that he had on the table announcing he was opening a store, 2000-2001. I hate to say I think he lost a customer either way. He was willing to screw a customer for $600.

Remind him. I’d ghost him permanently

 

[hlee]

Remind him. I’d ghost him permanently

Nah, don’t ghost him. Be a regular. Finger fuck every new gun that comes through the store. Ask questions. Lots of questions. Then, buy elsewhere...

 

[Mike_in_FL]

I recently bought 450 rounds of 9mm for $35 per 150. That works out to $0.23 per round. I can get Berry’s Bullets round nose 115 for $0.09 per, small pistol primers at $0.04 per, and a max charge of title group will cost $0.014 per shot- assuming availability. That works out to $0.144 per shot, assuming I have brass

I usually reload 9mm because I like the flexibility. I do buy at times however like last fall when I got Blazer brass 115 for .16/rd in a case of 1000. Now, I'm glad I can reload. I recently bought a Rem. 700 in .260 which in all honesty probably needs to go back to whoever buys the factory and honors a warranty but about the ammo.

I don't have any .260 brass, maybe I could dig out less than 100 pieces if I really look hard. I have plenty of H4350, primers, and 140 gr. bullets. But I have the Prime membership at TargetSportsUSA and I look for the hell of it because the rifle was my b-day present and may as well get ammo too. And what do they have but Prime .260 w/ the 130 gr. bthp. I got a case of 200 for like $204 shipped.

I start looking for brass and Lapua is close to a dollar a case. MidSouth has Prime brass on sale for .50 a case. Now I bought the ammo around the 20th of last month and when I bought it, they had 27 or 28 cases left in stock. I mean who shoots .260 these days? Everybody has a 6.5 CM. So I'm debating, do I just spend 100 bucks and get 200 pieces of brass to have 400 total, or just buy another case of ammo for 200.

I decide to get more ammo and what do you know? Less than 10 days later all those cases of ammo are gone. I did end up buying two cases of Berger ammo from them so we'll see how they do and I will have plenty of brass.

 

[Tango down]

So I'm in a local sports shop and happened to notice they had about 10 boxes of 9mm. So I grabbed 1 box to make use of the opportunity, nothing crazy. This was for a box of 50 Armscor FMJ 9mm. It rang up at the register at $65!! I said "that has to be a mistake." Was told "nope, do you have any idea how hard it is to find 9mm?" I laughed, because I'd purchased a box of the same exact ammo about 4 days earlier in another store for $14. When I told them that, the guy looked visibly embarrassed. Needless to day, I did not buy.

Talk about gouging. Anyone seen higher?

$43 for a box of 50 FMJ is the highest I've seen, so far, in a well known gun store in Vegas and that's BS, the hell with that place. Plenty of other places are not that greedy and that's where I'll spend my money.

 

[gunsnjeeps]

Am I understanding you correctly.. 4K rnds of Wolf Gold for $240..??? Wtf did you find that deal, in Afghanistan..?? I watch ammo prices like a hawk, non-stop & have NEVER seen anything even close to that..! Regular steel cased Wolf ammo Was $150 per K in the late 90’s..! You had to’ve meant to say, ‘per 1K..”

Bullets, not loaded ammo. $279 for a case of 1000 rounds local pickup (I've been told some places had $259 shipped but I was supporting my LGS), $240 for 4K 55gn FMJ bullets, plus shipping.

 

[gunsnjeeps]

$100 for prestine surplus still in cosemoline Bulgarian 9mm Makarov, lol.

Oh, you be talking about ammo. Probably 5000 rounds dirt cheap brown and silver bear. You guys are carrying the wrong 9mm for these times.

PayPal or Postal Money Order?

 

[gunsnjeeps]

what happened is about the same time overnight the whoLe sellers jumped their prices through the roof.if you had bought the ammo, that was not ethical but the retailers are taking a ride also. My range ordered over a million rounds forbulk milspec from overseas and took six weeks to get it by boat. In the meantime they passed on opportunities knowing this was on its way...When it came they sold it and refunded our cash they used to buy it...talk about anger in the shop...

Outlook put August confirmation email in junk.. The shop fixed it today.. Don't confirm my back order twice then cancel it w/o notification.

 

[Baer45]

sounds like a bad business decision not to be diversified in the firearm industry.

Since the internet sales hit, you can’t get diversified enough. My investment was not of expectation of returns but all you have to do is look at how many gun stores went out of business after Obama’s panic. He knew what he was doing..,with a very few exceptions, I don’t think anyone can run a new gun store today, at least not and make enough return for the effort ....more will go out of business after this panic.,.falling prices and everyone in country with a lifetime supply of inventory...

 

[Baer45]

No doubt. I'm not sure what the tooling is like for mass manufacturing of small arms ammo. Is it largely proprietary? Or are the machines used widely in other industries with only minor modification required?

Right now you would be out on the street begging for components against the big guys

 

[Sidewinder66]

So I'm in a local sports shop and happened to notice they had about 10 boxes of 9mm. So I grabbed 1 box to make use of the opportunity, nothing crazy. This was for a box of 50 Armscor FMJ 9mm. It rang up at the register at $65!! I said "that has to be a mistake." Was told "nope, do you have any idea how hard it is to find 9mm?" I laughed, because I'd purchased a box of the same exact ammo about 4 days earlier in another store for $14. When I told them that, the guy looked visibly embarrassed. Needless to day, I did not buy.

Talk about gouging. Anyone seen higher?

Yes, gouging everywhere, cheaper than dirt, I saw 200 round box for 299.00 plain old 55 grain winchester. They should be ashamed of themselves!

 

[vinniedelpino]

Right now you would be out on the street begging for components against the big guys

Huh? I take it copper is still a problem then?

 

[Codiekfx400]

Primers is the problem for making ammo currently.

 

[Frog_Legs]

My son was at the OKC gun show last weekend and said asking price for target 9mm Was around .80cpr.

He wasn’t buying. Lol

 

[Baer45]

Big tech is shutting down all conservative news today, including reports on government corruption....doubt it will be easy to get anything before long

 

[Hi-Wall]

I dunno man... you see the car thread on here? There are hide members with bentleys, lamborhinis and a whole bunch of other rides that might cost more than my house. I don't think it's worth their time to cast bullets or even reload for handgun at all. Guys like that are probably better off paying $3 per round for a tailored load from copper creek or something if they need top shelf ammo.

Pre pandemic, I figured out it made absolutely no sense to load 9mm or .223 anymore. Just precision rounds for a select few rifles. I don't think casting ever made sense for me... I'm not good enough with a handgun to see any accuracy gains and the time and equipment invested definitely weren't worth it when I could buy 50rds of 9mm for $8 per box.

That no longer applies.... for me. I reluctantly bought some cheapo lee 9mm dies a few months back.

I might just be an "odd duck" but I prefer to be able to do things myself. There are a lot of things that can be taken away from you but skills and knowledge are yours permanently.
By dint of good fortune and planning my wife and I are quite comfortable. Yet we garden, forage, hunt, fish, cut our own meat, make sausage and smoked products, can, brew, make wine, and our own maple syrup. I can blacksmith, do primitive wood working, sharpen axes, knives, hand saws, chain saws etc. So bullet casting and reloading are just another skill set of a semi independent life style. Worse comes to worse, I'll grab my flint lock rifle or smoothbore, knap a flint out of chert and go shoot something I need.

 

[Fred @ Bison Tactical]

Speaking as a LGS owner, I can't get 9mm regularly now. I get maybe one case every 3 months now if I am lucky. I have mostly stopped selling 9mm since I can't get 9mm to sell with the pistols I have in my store. I will say that whatever a LGS charges, people are allowed to decide not to purchase, so I really don't get the whole "gouging" argument. I can tell you I have never heard someone complain about the guy who purchased Apple stock low and made 1000% when he sold it as being a price gouger simply because he made a profit on that stock.

Conversely I have rarely heard people complain about the sales put on around Black Friday when Local Gun Stores try to win business by selling under cost on items. People screaming about gouging now are the first ones to take advantage of the great deals they get when there are surpluses of inventory and nobody is buying (heard of the Trump Slump?). Take the good with the bad in regards to market fluctuations.

One thing I have learned over the last 10 years in the firearm industry is that you buy when ammo is cheap and you stock up on necessities. Like Primers, commodity ammo like 9mm and 5.56 bulk. Then you have it when invariably (like during a presidential election cycle) the availability decreases. If you were wise and purchased when it was cheap, you can sell some if you thing you won't need it until its available again. I don't call that gouging, I think its wise investing.

 

[gunsnjeeps]

I've never seen 50 shares of stock on a target. Ammo is a consumable, shares of stock are not.

I will agree on buying when items are available instead of during a panic. Selling 20 year old surplus ammo could be seen as an investment, some people probably passed on that same ammo a few months ago at $5 and have considered it for $50. I have a can of Wolf Steel case 5.56 that I could probably sell at 50 cents to a buck a round and I know I have Sierra Bullets I could sell for double what I bought them for and be near current MSRP.

 

[MojoNixon]

It’s regularly I’m stock at Academy for $25/box for the .308 load. Almost bought some the other day on an impulse just cause.

This is good news as I can't source 168's or 175's locally. I cant find 168 ELD Match Superformance anywhere. Last I saw in stock was a couple of weeks ago in 200 round count cases and 20 round boxes. LAX ammo was my go to source. Everytime I looked 6 months ago they had it. My Savage 110 Tactical loves it. It likes 168 FGMM a lot, too. I did trade 80 rounds of old 64 gr. 5.56 or .223 Gold Dots for 40 rounds of 168 FGMM last month.

 

[T-TurtleWang]

Speaking as a LGS owner, I can't get 9mm regularly now. I get maybe one case every 3 months now if I am lucky. I have mostly stopped selling 9mm since I can't get 9mm to sell with the pistols I have in my store. I will say that whatever a LGS charges, people are allowed to decide not to purchase, so I really don't get the whole "gouging" argument. I can tell you I have never heard someone complain about the guy who purchased Apple stock low and made 1000% when he sold it as being a price gouger simply because he made a profit on that stock.

Conversely I have rarely heard people complain about the sales put on around Black Friday when Local Gun Stores try to win business by selling under cost on items. People screaming about gouging now are the first ones to take advantage of the great deals they get when there are surpluses of inventory and nobody is buying (heard of the Trump Slump?). Take the good with the bad in regards to market fluctuations.

One thing I have learned over the last 10 years in the firearm industry is that you buy when ammo is cheap and you stock up on necessities. Like Primers, commodity ammo like 9mm and 5.56 bulk. Then you have it when invariably (like during a presidential election cycle) the availability decreases. If you were wise and purchased when it was cheap, you can sell some if you thing you won't need it until its available again. I don't call that gouging, I think its wise investing.

Investing in ammo is a wise idea in my option. Its always useful and can be used to trade/barter. If you can get it for cheap like it was all last year, you could be offloading it for crazy prices right now and have no problem selling it. Wish I had bought more when times were good because the profit margins right now are crazy.
Sure puts a smile on my face when I sell someone some 300blk ammo for more then twice what I bought them for, or when my apple stock went from $200 to over $500/share.

What a year!

 

[1moaoff]

In my lowly opinion, all serious shooters should be reloaders. All shooters that want to be able to do as much shooting as possible, should also be bullet casters.

Or make more money

 

[P17STMBT]

We should not be surprised, I don't understand the confusion. Our new world is because of voter's desire to turn our free and transparent country into a liberal socialist marxist communist closed and controlled society. The EPA closed the last lead plant in our entire country during the Obama/Biden administration; China produces 40% of the entire world's lead and same for primers wtf. Consider fighting two world wars and giving it all away for voting stupidly, and now people complain after the fact. The answer is simple, vote Republican, not the best but better than the alternative.

 

[P17STMBT]

We should not be surprised, and why the confusion? The new world order is in play, and either naive or liberal marxists communist citizens are voting for it. The EPA under the Obama/Biden administration shut down the last lead smelter plant; china produces 40% of world's lead and about same for primers. Consider fighting two world wars and give it all away for voting stupidly; people complaining after the fact does nothing; ask someone from Venezuela lol. The answer is simple, get out the responsible vote, and vote Republicans, not the best but beats the alternative!

 

[Mike_in_FL]

The EPA closed the last lead plant in our entire country during the Obama/Biden administration

At the risk of agreeing with the likes of snopes and politifact, can you even verify any of what you've said? Because I think you're referring to Doe Run, which is still open. The hippies didn't want to smelt lead from ore because there's theoretically enough for us to use by recycling which is what Doe Run does now. What China does, in addition to releasing viruses and ignoring patent law, is beyond our control.

I'm seeing 9mm going for 2 bucks a round. I'm not buying it though, I'm back to reloading. I am going to have to wait for Blue Bullets to catch up on their backlog but I don't think it's because all the lead is in China.

 

[P17STMBT]

It appears that between supply chain for raw materials for manufacturing, individual parts for firearms being out sourced to several different countries to produce any firearm, and covid19 slowing down every step of supply chain to reach retailers, we now scream supply and demand price increases.

 

[P17STMBT]

More of same supply chain issues China

and Africa

 

[P17STMBT]

Next

 

[high right]

You know you can toll your own?

 

[rottenruger]

I have not seen prices higher than what you encountered...

That said, AmmoSeek is your friend:
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

Thanks for the reference, just ordered some 9mm and some hard to find 380 auto. Their 223 Remington on the high side, though. Thanks again!

 

[DJ 480]

So I'm in a local sports shop and happened to notice they had about 10 boxes of 9mm. So I grabbed 1 box to make use of the opportunity, nothing crazy. This was for a box of 50 Armscor FMJ 9mm. It rang up at the register at $65!! I said "that has to be a mistake." Was told "nope, do you have any idea how hard it is to find 9mm?" I laughed, because I'd purchased a box of the same exact ammo about 4 days earlier in another store for $14. When I told them that, the guy looked visibly embarrassed. Needless to day, I did not buy.

Talk about gouging. Anyone seen higher?

I definitely remember all the places that do this to the gun community. When a shop gouges like this, they lose my business. Even when the situation normalizes.

 

[acudaowner]

while it's not 9mm it's still a crazy high price rate yesterday I saw 6.5 creedmoor 140 gr that a few months ago that was 139. per 200 rounds now just under 400 + shipping for that same 200 rounds . I was really happy that I had invested a couple grand before the price increase rather than wait till now when the price is so crazy high I liked the round but not at that high a price . I am envious of people who were stockpiling there ammo for many years prior when prices were even lower god bless em .

 

[adubeau]

I bought 168 Grain HPBT SMK OTM RazorCore Semi-Auto Match Ammo by IMI @ sgammo for 25.95 box now all the have is 175gr for the same price.. as of now 175 boxes left - yeah most ridiculous price I saw 70 bucks for 50 rnds of 9mm and send 22 as high as 25 for a box of 50..

 

[Quarter Horse]

This whining is amusing. The first time I remember it was the gas crisis in, I think it was, '74. Everybody in the state of CA filled their car up on what seemed to be the same day. Then there was no gas! No Shit Sherlock. What a surprise that was! I was in the retail auto business and a late model Lincoln was worth less than a late model Toyota Corolla. Then there was the Clinton "Black Rifle" ban. Black rifles were bringing stupid money so I sold mine. Then there was the Obama administration and I sold my ARs that I had reaquired. At the time of Sandyhook I said screw it, kept what I had and ignored it.

Much of what we are seeing right now is driven by the news media in exactly the same manner that drive impulse buying before a hurricane. If you live in the gulf states and you don't keep your vehicles topped up your stupid. Same thing is true if you don't have at least two weeks of fresh water. It doesn't take much in money to have a couple of weeks of food that stores well and that you can rotate through your normal diet. For years, people of the gulf states and even the northeast, kept stuff on hand to make it through a hurricane.

We live in the PNW on a small farm. We've been through a five hundred year flood when we couldn't get off the place for a week and a typhoon when there were no goods that could be brought in for days. In the flood we ran out of coffee and Marlboros and that will never happen again.

What sellers are asking for ammo is up to them as is what buyers will pay is up to the buyer. Though we have a significant supply of both commercial ammo and supplies to reload it only represents what might be used in a normal two to three year period. If you are running out it is your own fault. You're not thinking ahead and it's not like history hasn't warned you. You decided to buy your daily Starbuck's latte instead of three boxes of white box nine for the week.

Lastly, buy carefully now and cost average your purchases. If you bought two thouand rounds of nine at less then ten bucks a box you were paying about $200. a thousand. If your paying $20.00 now and you buy two hundred rounds your cost averaged is $12.50 a box of fifty. Do more dry firing. Do more mag switch drills and make every round fired count. Then, when this is over, make a concerted effort to keep on hand enough to keep you shooting for a couple of years.

 

[Bogus-mcall]

Local shop has them for 1.00 per round.

 

[nobeone]

Was at a gun shop yesterday and they had 9mm for $18.99/box of 50 (it was S&B). Limit of 2 boxes. No gouging going on there considering today's environment.

 

[DRT308]

“My legs”..?

LGS ,. Auto correct , haha