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The Spartans.
Sparta is know throughout history for honor in battle.
Persia? Rugs.
:Pretty sure you're wrong about that.
List of notable Persian technological feats/concepts from the ancient period:
1. Windmill
2. Irrigation
3. Electric Battery - that's right
4. Logarithm table
5. Algebra
6. Teaching Hospital and Hospitals in general
7. Anesthesia
8. practical physics
9. Alcohol
10. Illustrated Anatomy
11. Concept of a sun-centric solar system
12. Galaxies other than our own
13. early concept of Conservation of Mass
14. early concept of Evolution
15. chemistry
16. optics
17. concept of the speed of light as a finite measurement
18. explanation of refraction of light - rainbows
Sparta is known for guys with spears. They weren't big thinkers.
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Interesting post, Ill look into that further. I wonder what the electric from the battery was used for as I doubt they had I Phones?
Answered my own question
Persian philosophers and inventors may have created the first batteries (sometimes known as the Baghdad Battery) in the Parthian or Sassanid eras. Some have suggested that the batteries may have been used medicinally. Other scientists believe the batteries were used for electroplating--transferring a thin layer of metal to another metal surface--a technique still used today and the focus of a common classroom experiment. and the link:
Pretty sure you're wrong about that.
List of notable Persian technological feats/concepts from the ancient period:
1. Windmill
2. Irrigation
3. Electric Battery - that's right
4. Logarithm table
5. Algebra
6. Teaching Hospital and Hospitals in general
7. Anesthesia
8. practical physics
9. Alcohol
10. Illustrated Anatomy
11. Concept of a sun-centric solar system
12. Galaxies other than our own
13. early concept of Conservation of Mass
14. early concept of Evolution
15. chemistry
16. optics
17. concept of the speed of light as a finite measurement
18. explanation of refraction of light - rainbows
Sparta is known for guys with spears. They weren't big thinkers.
:
Interesting post, Ill look into that further. I wonder what the electric from the battery was used for as I doubt they had I Phones?
While this may be true, I personally find it hard to believe, considering that the populace now is only interested in reverting back to the original "rock and stick" technology. It seems that they want to start mankind over again, beginning about a half-step from cave-man intelligence. And STOPPING there.
I, for one, respect and admire actual intelligence. (obviously, more things as well) Why is it that the ubiquitous 'they' can't seem to show any, anymore? Until they do, they get no regard, no remorse, and no quarter.
Spartans were (among other more recognizable contributions) famous for the "Laconic Phrase". Examples include "Molan Labe" ("Come and Take Them"), and "With your shield, or on it". Nothing better than getting your point across in as few words as possible, while slapping your opponent with your very dry sense of humor. Well played Spartans, well played.
One of my favorites
Persians - Our arrows will be so many that it will darken the skies
Spartans at Thermopolae - Than we shall fight you in the shade.
The Persian Empire existed and ruled much of the world long before Islam came along and set things back 500 years. I liken the current state of Islamic fundamentalism to the dark ages in Europe that were mainly brought on by the Catholic church. Islam is about 500 years younger than Christianity and as such, I believe Islam is about 500 years behind in terms of what we could call Western enlightenment/sensibility. Do you know what event led to the end of the dark ages and the beginning of the Renaissance? When the Moors, who were far more technologically advanced than the Europeans, left Spain, they left an intact library in Cordoba. As monks began to translate the works held in the library, Europe re-discovered the great Persian advancements in science that had been lost (to Europeans) for a thousand years.
Today, the majority of Iranian citizens are pro-American, pro-West, and moderate in their beliefs and sensibilities. But they can do little against their oppressive Islamic/Military regime.
Today, it is very easy for Americans and the West to think of Iran as being backwards, primitive, and hostile. But most of us are ignorant of the series of events that led Iran to its current state and our role. Stephen Kinzer's book "All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror" should be on everyone's reading list. It spells out in detail how:
1. Great Britain's Empire of the 20th century ran on stolen Iranian oil, and how they fought and won two World Wars using stolen Iranian Oil.
2. The former state-owned (British) Anglo-Iranian Oil company became what we know as British Petroleum today.
3. When Churchill returned to power in 1951, was unable to convince Truman to invade Iran (Truman was on Iran's/Mosadegh's side - the side of democracy).
4. Churchill played on Eisenhower's (and the Dulles brothers') fear of communism to orchestrate the CIA-led coup
5. Teddy Roosevelt's CIA operative grandson Kermit Roosevelt flew to Tehran with several duffel bags full of $100 bills and overthrew Mosadegh's popularly-elected democracy in Iran and brought in Reza Pahlavi (the second Shah).
6. Mossadegh was Western-educated and Western-minded.
7. Mossadegh tried to use the oil money to build infrastructure, industry, and education in Iran.
8. Mossadegh was Time magazine's man of the year 1951 who might have brought democracy to the entire region.
9. Reza Pahlavi Shah was the CIA's puppet dictator for nearly three decades and led a reign of terror against Iran's citizens.
10. The Iranian Revolution was NOT a fundamentalist Muslim revolution; rather, it was a student revolution whose goals were to depose the Shah and to form a democracy in Iran.
11. The student revolution was not well organized or well funded and led to a power vacuum, much like the vacuum that existed in Iraq after we overthrew Hussein.
12. Khomeini returned from exile with a bunch of cash and was able to consolidate his power with the military and keep Iran from becoming a democracy as the revolutionaries had intended.
13. Khomeini created the world's first Islamic state. There have only ever been two and Afghanistan is the other. Both were results of really bad US foreign policy.
14. The Iranian Revolution coincided with the 10th anniversary of Mosadegh's death.
15. Photos and film of the protests before and after the Iranian Revolution show the demonstrators carrying pictures of Mossadegh.
History and context are important. I believe if our leaders knew more of both then we would have less problems today. Sometimes, we're our own worst enemy.
I think we can summarize the feelings of our enemies in the Middle East in one easy to understand sentence: They're tired of our shit.
And really, if it weren't for the oil, we wouldn't have bothered them, would we? How much money has the west made while creating all of these enemies?
On a lighter note, enjoy some boobies:
A remarkably well informed and enlightened view. Religiously repressed, yes, but these people are far from savages. I read the story of one guy who biked through Iran and said the people, especially the youth, were the kindest he had ever met. I might argue that El Salvadoreanos hold that title, but never the less
Photos of modern day Iran.
The beautiful city Tehran - YouTube
Your hitting close to home, there, buck O
"unfortunately, most individuals are living in a situation, largely caused by inept and corrupt leadership (political and religious...), that makes it impossible for people to get out of the cycle they are caught in."
your hitting close to home, there, buck o
Does posting a picture of "Leather Tuscadero" count as tits?
Cheers,
Sirhr