A bit of thunder in the morning always clears the effects of a hangover:
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I like how the brake lights come on while the car is airborne right before it hits the wall.
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9mm vs. .40 S&W vs. .45 ACP on cinder block:
Great if you want to kill some cinder blocks..
Hard cast is still great for penetrating big game.
400 grains from a 45-70. It drops a lot but hard cast lead- heavy and slow really punches through big bone and fought hide.
For longer shots, the modern hunting bullet is preferred.
200 yard zero and you can hold on Fur out to 300-325 yards
The 9mm round fires into the cinder block- it looks like he is mainly holding the jacket.
It’s quite common for .223 ball to squirt the lead out it’s butt when it hits a cars windshield. Spinning so fast, the lead is almost liquid inside of the jacket. When the bullet hits a windshield, the lead squishes out of the real of the jacket.
.223/ 5.56 soft points are better for LEO as the base is sealed and the lead would be forced forward along with the jacket when shooting a windshield.
Velocity gives you a high KE number (1/2Mass x Velocity squared)
Penetration - is more a measurement of momentum Mass x velocity.
.40 cal was designed with the Hatcher formula in mind and will never be a crazy penetrator.
I like how the brake lights come on while the car is airborne right before it hits the wall.
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Or maybe the vodka bottle should have been put away a little sooner, impressive flight nonetheless.Impressive air time! That was one expensive txt LOL.
a lot OF WORK AREA for Tattoos, just saying
As far as most effective pistol round goes I kinda have my own unscientific test of it. I was a fireman for manry years. I also rode an ambulance part time most of that . I've been to a shit ton of GSW's. In my experience I have never had a live patient (victim) with a spent .45 case nearby. Now fact is if the person was alive it was a load and go so I wasn't standing around looking waiting for the LEO's to release us. Could be there were plenty of guy's with .45's in them we treated and got to the ER. But fact remains if the guy was dead there was a .45 involved a lot of the time.
I've always been a 45 guy myself, but with the advancement in 9mm projectiles, I find myself gravitating to 9mm, not that I remotely have experience with either.As far as most effective pistol round goes I kinda have my own unscientific test of it. I was a fireman for many years. I also rode an ambulance part time most of that . I've been to a shit ton of GSW's. In my experience I have never had a live patient (victim) with a spent .45 case nearby. Now fact is if the person was alive it was a load and go so I wasn't standing around looking waiting for the LEO's to release us. Could be there were plenty of guy's with .45's in them we treated and got to the ER. But fact remains if the guy was dead there was a .45 involved a lot of the time.
Fully understood, I bought a WC EDC X9, even though it does not have night sites, it's hard to imagine it not being quite handy to have in a pinch. And I hate double stacks, this just feels diff though.My EDC is a Sig 1911 .45 compact. 7 round mag means I have 15 available. If I need 15 of anything I need to choose my fights more carefully or get to be a better shot. I like my chances with 15 230 gr. JHP's
I think skilled shooters.... might lean towards the .45 - the round is not better- the marksmanship of the shooter is better
Hi,
Who cares what cartridge you want for your EDC pistol lol, because the pistols only job is to get you back to your rifle
It is not to keep you there fighting.....
Back to the "Open Range" clip earlier. If you bean them, the difference between a 9mm and a 45 becomes one of rounds per magazine per platform, and less one of which makes a bigger hole. I can get 16 rounds (one in the chamber and 15 in the mag) in the same sized 9mm as your 1911 (e.g. Glock 19 vs 1911 compact).
Head shots change the equation in favor of more rounds = better, up to a point.
On the old TV shows they throw the gun when the ammo runs out. Never seen it work.
Hi,
And you are theorizing that you could neutralize said target with your pistol......
What happens in real world when you cannot??? Do you sit there and run out of ammo? What is your plan?
Sincerely,
Theis
Like Fig said, always have a backup... If the threat isn't down after emptying a mag or two, I'm probably f*cked anyways, but I'm not going down without a fight... whether that's the butt of my pistol, or the blade in my pocket. I'm not
I want to know what theoretical situation you expect to be in where 11 rounds of anything isn't going to stop the threat, on US Soil? Hell, 11 rounds of 22 shorts is going to stop the most dangerous threats in my area (humans).
EDC in the NE isn't the same as EDC in AK, or anywhere with Grizzlies. But out here, we don't have to worry about much worse than gang bangers, or their dogs...
I want to know what theoretical situation you expect to be in where 11 rounds of anything isn't going to stop the threat, on US Soil? Hell, 11 rounds of 22 shorts is going to stop the most dangerous threats in my area (humans).
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Is this the motivational caliber thread? I was looking for it. So what is best 9mm or .45 nipples. 5.7x28 is a bit light.
I like how the brake lights come on while the car is airborne right before it hits the wall.
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Lotta Buster Scruggs wanna be's around these days...
No problems. I will cite a friend here: "we may discuss the wound ballistics of different calibers all we want. But if I shoot the target in the face it doesn't matter". It was about the 4,6 HK vs 9 mil.
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Which one is he?Definitely a Hermosa Beach arrest: