Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

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and they wonder why there's no water?!

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According to the guys that I talked to who were drilling a new well for the Sands convention center the idea that the Las Vegas Valley is out of water is complete horseshit. Working for an independent well drilling company located in the Pacific northwest drilling a new well for the Sands the workers doing the drilling stated to me that there is literally an ocean of water underneath the Las Vegas valley. And I also know this for a fact, so much water percolates up underneath the Las Vegas Hilton from underground springs that every couple of days sump pumps that water out. It then flows down Joe W Brown Boulevard and into the Las Vegas wash.
 
100% the Aztec was about 20 years too early to market.

Read several articles about GM during the late 80’s early 90’s.

Automotive research people say they had so many good ideas they just read the market wrong and the product life cycle died before the market was ready.

Really good read

I'm not sure that body style ever had a "moment in time."
 
They were early ...aaaand they didn't commit on the design.

They were too early to catch the cross-over trend.....and they marketed it as a "adventure vehicle".....but gave it 0 capability to actually do the adventure bit.


If they improved the off-road capability, and gave it slightly more aggressive styling, they would sell like hotcakes today.

Essentially they needed a "trail hawk" version

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Oh please.....you know as well as I do if they released that in desert tan half the hide would be driving one.....



You wanna throw up, you should see what they killed off the Aztec to start making.

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I have a Buddy that drives one. I just don’t have the heart to razz him about it.

Could be worse. Could be an AMC Pacer…….

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Oh please.....you know as well as I do if they released that in desert tan half the hide would be driving one.....



You wanna throw up, you should see what they killed off the Aztec to start making.

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My friends brother helped design the PT
When they were combined with MB

He was removed from the project for proposing a different engine compartment enabling a larger engine.

…guess why the PT never took off..largest complaint..lack of power.

They moved him to the MB CLK conv engineering department
 
They were early ...aaaand they didn't commit on the design.

They were too early to catch the cross-over trend.....and they marketed it as a "adventure vehicle".....but gave it 0 capability to actually do the adventure bit.


If they improved the off-road capability, and gave it slightly more aggressive styling, they would sell like hotcakes today.

Essentially they needed a "trail hawk" version

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C’mon man. Low angle shots make most any vechicle look good.

Just look at this mid-70s travesty of a Ford Mustang.
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Now look at this approximately same model, different angle
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This is not a ground-level shot, but it sure looks better to my eye (yeah, it’s in better shape, has a better color & light, but squint at both pics to see what I mean).

Go even lower, like as in the pics you showed, and this POS will look even better.

I get what you are saying, that if they had the time to revisit the design they could’ve made it better-looking. Just look at the wheel well mods on your pics. Much better. But my problem is with what was, not what was possible.

Also re: the Aztek you posted: that large spoiler? On an off-road truck car grocery-getter? Lol

I’m not commenting on how the Aztek was created or its reliability or anything. Just on pure design. The thing is a disaster.

You can almost see the delineation where different corp design teams worked on it…rear end, front fascia, wheel wells, ugh. Just completely not pulled together. Overall, it reminds me of a tortoise with two sets of huge nostrils.

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In short, the Pacer and PT Cruiser commit to their designs (and I use that last word lightly here lol) but design-wise, the Aztek commits to…nothing.

It’s a hodgepodge of taped-together design themes aimed at different market segments.
 
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