Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

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brianf said:
Yeah...house is burning down by dinner.

Outlets “upside down “ are so if the plug partially comes out nothing can touch both prongs. It will lay on the ground and not cause any trouble.
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No, I'll still swing down and have a 50/50 chance of hitting the hot and blowing shit apart.

That's not a heater, that's an instant trip.

And yes, normal licensed electricians put the switched recep on the bottom, and ground down because it really doesn't matter which way the ground faces.

The shit I saw in Williston from "electricians" that came from states without a formal licensing program scared the hell out of me. Makes me wonder how some places dont have constant fires.
 
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chevy_man said:
No, I'll still swing down and have a 50/50 chance of hitting the hot and blowing shit apart.

That's not a heater, that's an instant trip.

And yes, normal licensed electricians put the switched recep on the bottom, and ground down because it really doesn't matter which way the ground faces.

The shit I saw in Williston from "electricians" that came from states without a formal licensing program scared the hell out of me. Makes me wonder how some places dont have constant fires.
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Seen it happen at work, stainless scoop slipped off the shelf and landed on a shop vac plug half way out of the wall.

Walked in the department during lunch and smelt burn.

Shop vac plug was smoking and was like goo and smoking.
 
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jphil108 said:
Maybe trolling, but they're supposed to be installed like that. That way if the plug pulls out some and you drop a knife or screwdriver on it,the first contact made is with the ground pin, no electrocutions just a funny smell. People only put them In the other way because it looks like a face so it looks "right".
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Relative is licensed electrician, recently replaced a broken outlet at my home. Told me new commercial regulation requires ground on top due to recent fire at hospital when item fell across prongs.
 
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chevy_man said:
No, I'll still swing down and have a 50/50 chance of hitting the hot and blowing shit apart.

That's not a heater, that's an instant trip.

And yes, normal licensed electricians put the switched recep on the bottom, and ground down because it really doesn't matter which way the ground faces.

The shit I saw in Williston from "electricians" that came from states without a formal licensing program scared the hell out of me. Makes me wonder how some places dont have constant fires.
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First time I ever saw it was at my current office. Asked the general contractor about it and was told it was to show a union electrician did the work. Im in an open shop state with loosely enforced licencing.
 
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jphil108 said:
Maybe trolling, but they're supposed to be installed like that. That way if the plug pulls out some and you drop a knife or screwdriver on it,the first contact made is with the ground pin, no electrocutions just a funny smell. People only put them In the other way because it looks like a face so it looks "right".
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In my experience (not an electrician) upside down outlet means it's switched. As in plug in a lamp, leave it on, control it with a wall switch.
 
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NEC has no spec on how to orient the ground in relation to the hot/neutral. Can be up, down or sideways. Only thing you cannot do is put a horizontal receptacle on top of something so it is "face up" in a dwelling (residential)
 
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jphil108 said:
Maybe trolling, but they're supposed to be installed like that. That way if the plug pulls out some and you drop a knife or screwdriver on it,the first contact made is with the ground pin, no electrocutions just a funny smell. People only put them In the other way because it looks like a face so it looks "right".
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Total Bull Shit or TBS, not what you're sayin' but the reason for the stupid reg. If it was such a fucking problem they should have required all new installations use a twist locking system. How many times in a fucking year will there be any discernible difference?
I hate those upside down plugs especially when you plug in something that has the wire and plug designed to lay flat.
 
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Electricians will run the ground on top while they need a live circuit for work. As explained, it's to prevent something from falling into the hot and neutral leads while they are working. They turn it around after the work is complete.
 
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In the houses I've owned or rented, the ground has always been on the bottom. This is multiple houses across multiple states.

If I had seen one with it on top, I would have told them to fix that shit or no deal ;)
 
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Here’s the dilemma. In this scenario, you are asked to make a choice. It could be one of the most important decisions of your life. There are no right or wrong answers but you should be prepared to justify your decision.

You are a photojournalist and on an assignment in Florida during hurricane season. There is the mother of all storms that is about to hit the coast. Nancy Pelosi is also there drumming up support for the Democratic nominee against President Trump in the 2020 election.

The Nominee and Pelosi have decided to weather out the hurricane to show solidarity with Floridians because so many electoral votes are at stake.

You’ve been on a dual assignment to cover the campaign and the hurricane. While traveling in the nominee’s motorcade to the coast for a photo-op you and a few other vehicles get separated. You find yourself in a stretch of beach with huge waves crashing against the shoreline amidst devastating winds.

You decide to brave the storm and take a few photographs while the driver tries to figure out where he is at and come up with another course of action.

While photographing the waters in all its fury you notice a figure in the flotsam and jetsam that is struggling to survive. You peer really hard through the wind and rain and see that it is Nancy Pelosi battling for her life.

Thoughts race quickly through your mind. This could be the chance to make history and rescue the Speaker of the House and third in line for the Presidency of the United States. If you do that, you could miss out on a Pulitzer prize winning photograph of the century of a famous person seconds before she drowns. This could be the one shot that put’s your career on an exponentially lucrative trajectory. Or you could save someone’s life at great risk to your own.

So, here’s the question. In the final print for the news story, do you choose the vivid reality of full color or the timeless, classic quality of black & white?
 
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Hovenweep National Monument has always been the place we planned to stop and see, then never managed to pull off. I bet we drove by the brown NPS signs 50 or 60 times, and just rolled on by. Finally, we followed the sign and checked out the part of the monument that's barely into UT west of Cortez, CO.

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