Muzzle Brakes poor form at the range?

[EddieNFL]

Y'all sound like a bunch of range Karen's.

It is a rifle range for pete's sake.

Lord I want off this planet.

 

[Mike Casselton]

I missed 401, so, here I am at 402.

 

[Inifinty]

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Is that one of them penis choker things?

I’ve heard stories, but I don’t think it will help OP find a second set of damn ear pro. Besides he might not be able to find his cock either.

 

[babyguppy]

So I was at an outdoor range today zeroing a new scope... I have a 7RM 26" heavy barrel with an APA Little Bastard brake on it. The people on either side of me got quite upset and some guy's wife said "WHAT IS THAT???" in that super bitchy tone of voice. They complained to the RSO and asked if I was allowed to do that. Normally, I do try to sit on either end of the firing line, but being the weekend, the range was pretty full and that wasn't an option.

I generally try to be courteous when possible, but that lady almost made me say what I was actually thinking.

At any rate, the RSO told her she probably needs better earplugs and moved the people on either side of me somewhere else.

Is there an etiquette to this? I was just sighting in a new scope for god's sake (and a few rounds for load development).

I break out my JP Comp Eliminator in self-defense; AR10 has a better blast than the ar15 .. hats can fly
best breaks in the world, if you're the shooter..

 

[roostercogburn98]

Is that one of them penis choker things?

I heard it was a new and approved garage door opener for nastycar

 

[brianf]

I heard it was a new and approved garage door opener for nastycar

Who knew how fucking crazy it would become.

That little rope was just a look into the libtard-woke stuff we see today.

 

[BobKaare]

Does Newton`s Third Law apply? " For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

Yes, and that exactly why top ports are pretty retarded.
Did you sleep through physics?
You do understand that a bipod isn't a solid object with no give?

 

[Turkeytider]

Yes, and that exactly why top ports are pretty retarded.
Did you sleep through physics?
You do understand that a bipod isn't a solid object with no give?

Gee, I thought that I even mentioned Newton`s Third Law was proof enough that I didn`t sleep through physics. Why the need for the dig?

 

[Mike Casselton]

Yes, and that exactly why top ports are pretty retarded.
Did you sleep through physics?
You do understand that a bipod isn't a solid object with no give?

Gosh, do I have to explain everything around here?

Now that we have brakes with top ports to control hop, bottom ports are needed to counteract the downward push from the top ports...

 

[Turkeytider]

Gosh, do I have to explain everything around here?

Now that we have brakes with top ports to control hop, bottom ports are needed to counteract the downward push from the top ports...

That`s interesting. Knowing little to nothing about brakes myself ( other than stated purpose and their impact on adjacent shooters ), if brakes cause muzzles to jump, even with bottom ports, does that indicate that they`re really not very good at controlling muzzle jump? Thanks. Guy shooting next to me with a 300 Remington had a brake with holes all over it. Looked like his barrel was bouncing around pretty good.

 

[Grim's Reapers]

That`s interesting. Knowing little to nothing about brakes myself ( other than stated purpose and their impact on adjacent shooters ), if brakes cause muzzles to jump, even with bottom ports, does that indicate that they`re really not very good at controlling muzzle jump? Thanks. Guy shooting next to me with a 300 Remington had a brake with holes all over it. Looked like his barrel was bouncing around pretty good.

The right brake controls muzzle jump quite well. Some of them are horrible at it. I want any remaining recoil coming straight into my shoulder. The problem is that we as humans are intuitive and it's natural to think that downward pressure from a muzzle brake will push down on your bipod and hold it nice and firm.

The opposite is actually true. I think I mentioned it somewhere above but this thread is getting long. LOL

Think of it like this... Your bipod is the pivot point of your whole shooting system. If you push down on the end of your barrel or your muzzle brake with your hand, the rifle will pivot around the bipod and the butt stock will raise up. Now imagine that happening in an instant with more force and the bipod legs flexing slightly at the same time. It adds up to bad medicine.

Any downward force at all at the end of your barrel will have negative consequences. The opposite is true as well and pretty obvious as to why.

Edit: I forgot to add that the gentleman with all of the ports was having problems due to the above. A lot of people buy stuff because it looks cool and is "adjustable". Plus that intuition I mentioned probably convinced him those ports everywhere would be stellar! LOL Not.

 

[Mike Casselton]

That`s interesting. Knowing little to nothing about brakes myself ( other than stated purpose and their impact on adjacent shooters ), if brakes cause muzzles to jump, even with bottom ports, does that indicate that they`re really not very good at controlling muzzle jump? Thanks. Guy shooting next to me with a 300 Remington had a brake with holes all over it. Looked like his barrel was bouncing around pretty good.

Those radial brakes are fantastic for blowing dirt and grass all over the guy downwind of you.

I think we should go back to the old school shit just for fun.

 

[Turkeytider]

The right brake controls muzzle jump quite well. Some of them are horrible at it. I want any remaining recoil coming straight into my shoulder. The problem is that we as humans are intuitive and it's natural to think that downward pressure from a muzzle brake will push down on your bipod and hold it nice and firm.

The opposite is actually true. I think I mentioned it somewhere above but this thread is getting long. LOL

Think of it like this... Your bipod is the pivot point of your whole shooting system. If you push down on the end of your barrel or your muzzle brake with your hand, the rifle will pivot around the bipod and the butt stock will raise up. Now imagine that happening in an instant with more force and the bipod legs flexing slightly at the same time. It adds up to bad medicine.

Any downward force at all at the end of your barrel will have negative consequences. The opposite is true as well and pretty obvious as to why.

Edit: I forgot to add that the gentleman with all of the ports was having problems due to the above. A lot of people buy stuff because it looks cool and is "adjustable". Plus that intuition I mentioned probably convinced him those ports everywhere would be stellar! LOL Not.

Thank you sir. In the interest of full disclosure, even with the bouncing muzzle, and everything else on his table that wasn`t tied down flying about, that 300 Win Mag was having no problems printing sub-MOA groups at 500 yards on steel.

 

[Grim's Reapers]

Thank you sir. In the interest of full disclosure, even with the bouncing muzzle, and everything else on his table that wasn`t tied down flying about, that 300 Win Mag was having no problems printing sub-MOA groups at 500 yards on steel.

That gentleman knew his rifle.

 

[brianf]

Bipod jump..

It’s called proper fundamentals

That whole loading the bipod against a board etc

Take a class and it all goes away

 

[GlockandRoll]

So I was at an outdoor range today zeroing a new scope... I have a 7RM 26" heavy barrel with an APA Little Bastard brake on it. The people on either side of me got quite upset and some guy's wife said "WHAT IS THAT???" in that super bitchy tone of voice. They complained to the RSO and asked if I was allowed to do that. Normally, I do try to sit on either end of the firing line, but being the weekend, the range was pretty full and that wasn't an option.

I generally try to be courteous when possible, but that lady almost made me say what I was actually thinking.

At any rate, the RSO told her she probably needs better earplugs and moved the people on either side of me somewhere else.

Is there an etiquette to this? I was just sighting in a new scope for god's sake (and a few rounds for load development).

I have an APA Little Bastard on my .300 wm, and usually warned people who were setting up next to me or I would ask before setting up next to them. Unless they were goat fuckers shooting AKs (which happens in Austin), then I would bang away at it to run them off.

If someone got extra Karen with me, I'd say something like "Look bitch, complaining about noise at the range is like wanting to fuck and complaining about getting cum in your hair."

 

[Grim's Reapers]

Bipod jump..

It’s called proper fundamentals

That whole loading the bipod against a board etc

Take a class and it all goes away

That all goes out the window when you're prone or shoot where they don't have a board to load your bipod. I guess I could ask a heavy set girl to sit on my rig.

 

[hlee]

That all goes out the window when you're prone or shoot where they don't have a board to load your bipod. I guess I could ask a heavy set girl to sit on my rig.

I’ve posted this a bunch. What’s one more time. Sporter weight 7mm rem mag vs 15 yo teenager…

 

[Grim's Reapers]

I’ve posted this a bunch. What’s one more time. Sporter weight 7mm rem mag vs 15 yo teenager…

It appears that little girl has mad skills I do not possess.

 

[hlee]

It appears that little girl has mad skills I do not possess.

That “little girl” will throw you over his back and drop you on your face. He trains much harder for that than he does shooting…

 

[LeftyJason]

It appears that little girl has mad skills I do not possess.

You're a Supporter. Go into the online training. Pretty sure Frank has some stuff on it as well.

 

[Grim's Reapers]

That “little girl” will throw you over his back and drop you on your face. He trains much harder for that than he does shooting…
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My apologies. I couldn't tell with the hat.

 

[brianf]

I’ve posted this a bunch. What’s one more time. Sporter weight 7mm rem mag vs 15 yo teenager…

Exactly.

Fundamentals…no tricks or gimmick

 

[Grim's Reapers]

Exactly.

Fundamentals…no tricks or gimmick

So that young man is running that 7RM without a brake?

Edit: Never mind, I looked at it full screen and saw it. My eyes aren't what they used to be.

 

[hlee]

It appears that little girl has mad skills I do not possess.

He’s been shooting for a minute…

Post in thread 'Introducing kids to shooting'
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/introducing-kids-to-shooting.7208572/post-11431161

 

[346ci]

If you are in a free state, get a can.

 

[Chris1972]

This thread affected me, so much so that when I went to the range range this week I ask my fellow shooters if they were offended. They said you were a bunch of pussies, rock out with your cock out.

 

[Big Phish]

We had a disrespectful dipshit purposely set up a 50cal next to us on a 100 yard while we had a NRL22 match going because he was butthurt. Muzzle blast was interfering with our match.

 

[lash]

We had a disrespectful dipshit purposely set up a 50cal next to us on a 100 yard while we had a NRL22 match going because he was butthurt. Muzzle blast was interfering with our match.

That’s was just and inconsiderate asshole. I would have talked to somebody and pointed that out. I’m not saying that you should have, just that that ain’t prudent.

 

[xsn10s]

That’s was just and inconsiderate asshole. I would have talked to somebody and pointed that out. I’m not saying that you should have, just that that ain’t prudent.

At our range they don't allow any other shooter on that range when a competition is going on. Which bugs me because they are there almost every Saturday. But setting up next to a competition out of spite isn't helping at all.

 

[lash]

At our range they don't allow any other shooter on that range when a competition is going on. Which bugs me because they are there almost every Saturday. But setting up next to a competition out of spite isn't helping at all.

Well, if that were the case and me being the MD of the match, I’d be calling the owner or whoever thinks they’re in charge and shut that shit down. You act like an asshole, you get the asshole treatment.

 

[Grim's Reapers]

He’s been shooting for a minute…

Post in thread 'Introducing kids to shooting'
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/introducing-kids-to-shooting.7208572/post-11431161

Again, my apologies for my mistake. I really wasn't paying much attention to the person and was watching the gun. Plus I can't see for crap these days. LOL I don't know the Kung Fu and I'm sure the kid could flip me around like a sack of potatoes.

Also, I think I got lost in the shuffle of this thread. I wasn't trying to say that you can't control a rifle on a bipod with a brake on it. My rig doesn't have any barrel jump with the muzzle brake that I use. The "quieter" ATS one that I bought and tried did take a significant amount of effort to control and was annoying because my APA doesn't.

 

[Grim's Reapers]

My latest effort at trying to be nice. I put up my box of reloads as a diverter, but the blast kept slamming the lid shut.

 

[Rthur]

That all goes out the window when you're prone or shoot where they don't have a board to load your bipod. I guess I could ask a heavy set girl to sit on my rig.

Bite purdy good in most places.

R

 

[Turkeytider]

My latest effort at trying to be nice. I put up my box of reloads as a diverter, but the blast kept slamming the lid shut.

LOL, that`s funny Grim`s! Nice effort, though,

 

[JAS-SH]

That all goes out the window when you're prone or shoot where they don't have a board to load your bipod. I guess I could ask a heavy set girl to sit on my rig.

All the bellybenchrest guys in Fclass F-TR use skis on their bipods like the one below. There is a really good reason for that. It make shooting from a bipod like shooting on a benchrest with front bag.

I use the round skis available for my Atlas bipod and they are game changers.

 

[Grim's Reapers]

I was at an ELR shooting class this weekend and the guy next to me was shooting a 6.5 Creedmoor with a brake. I was spitting out sand the whole time and it was only a 6.5 Creed. I shave my head, so not a bad hair day, but I was covered with sand. It was a mess.

However, it wasn't upsetting me at all. Just part of the game. But it did suck.
My braked 7RM was pelting him equally well or worse.
We figured out our rhythm, took turns and got on with it.

Great class and a ton of fun.

 

[Turkeytider]

I was at an ELR shooting class this weekend and the guy next to me was shooting a 6.5 Creedmoor with a brake. I was spitting out sand the whole time and it was only a 6.5 Creed. I shave my head, so not a bad hair day, but I was covered with sand. It was a mess.

However, it wasn't upsetting me at all. Just part of the game. But it did suck.
My braked 7RM was pelting him equally well or worse.
We figured out our rhythm, took turns and got on with it.

Great class and a ton of fun.

Grim`s, if you were " spitting out sand ", I assume you both were prone right next to each other. You say that you took turns, did you try to back off a little bit to get out of the way or did you just lay there and take it?

 

[Grim's Reapers]

Grim`s, if you were " spitting out sand ", I assume you both were prone right next to each other. You say that you took turns, did you try to back off a little bit to get out of the way or did you just lay there and take it?

We both just took it because it would have been impractical to keep moving back and forth. "Spitting out sand" was a bit gratuitous. It was little pieces now and then, not a mouth full of mud. I did breath through my nose after a few episodes however. LOL

 

[FimRire RongLifle]

I carry a little mat for sand blast at range lines to toss under the muzzle. Helps a lot , old scrap carpet works too and it doesn't need to be that large.

 

[Ronws]

I carry a little mat for sand blast at range lines to toss under the muzzle. Helps a lot , old scrap carpet works too and it doesn't need to be that large.

Redneck solutions are the best. I ought to know. I are a redneck.

 

[FimRire RongLifle]

another redneck solution for just blast is, plywood and 2x4s and make the 'wall(s)'..... and if you angle them in a bit and build a box along the lower inside edge it catches brass and is an improved stand.

 

[Inifinty]

The real redneck solution is to live where no one else is and make all the noise you want.

 

[FimRire RongLifle]

We had a disrespectful dipshit purposely set up a 50cal next to us on a 100 yard while we had a NRL22 match going because he was butthurt. Muzzle blast was interfering with our match.

50 cal at 100, full stop.

 

[DubfromGA]

The real redneck solution is to live where no one else is and make all the noise you want.

That would be living the dream.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

The real redneck solution is to live where no one else is and make all the noise you want.

A real, redneck would use a 7014 rod, and weld it to the table

 

[hlee]

A real, redneck would use a 7014 rod, and weld it to the table

No, baling wire and duck tape.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

No, baling wire and duck tape.

Thought low tech rednecks, when out in the 90's?

 

[Grim's Reapers]

Redneck solutions are the best. I ought to know. I are a redneck.

Son, I have an airplane in my living room. The only thing more redneck would be if it were a bass boat in there.

 

[Ronws]

Son, I have an airplane in my living room. The only thing more redneck would be if it were a bass boat in there.View attachment 8400084

Reminds me of SA Gibbs of NCIS building a boat in his basement.