need opinions on new rifle

[jwoolf]

please no flames.

I am going to do a lot of research on this.... on this board.

I think I want to build a 300 win mag on the budget.... don't think I can afford a USO or nightforce at the moment but, I'm about to have a little cash on hand to put together a precision rifle of some sort.

So, I'm new to this site. I do reload pretty proficiently. I used to shoot the national match course as a kid and went to perry 6yrs in a row as a jr shooter in the louisiana state team so, I'm in no way a new shooter but, I'm new to precision rifle and, I have access to a 1000yd range.

So, I'm trying to put together a 1000yd rifle with punch. ( I know 260rem is probably the way to go ) but, I want a 300 win mag.

Since I'm trying to do this on a budget, it's probably on a rem 700...

crap... once I start reading, I'm going to be embarrassed for posting this since, I'm sure the very folks that I'm going to respect the most will just roll their eyes at this post.

So, since I'm going to put fourth my first post in an ignorant newbie post like this.... How would YOU go about putting together a budget 300 win mag with optics?

I just shot the 2 man sniper match at tiger valley last weekend with an old M1A supermatch with some optics on it... LOL ( my old national match course rifle ) haha the damned thing shoots sub moa but, just barely but, the old 7.62x51 just barely makes it and, you have to use medium burning powders to keep from breaking the op rod.

So, I have a good semi-auto that does 800yds with confidence but, I want the rifle that takes it farther and shoots inside of the old 7.62x51 that can challenge the 338 on a budget and shoot the 1000yd line like the 7.62x51 can at the 600yd line.

I want to put good optics on it but, I just may not be able to swing the USO or Nightforce right now.... my best bet may be to just wait on what I want.... I hate getting something and being pissed at myself for not getting the right thing the first time.

 

[patches]

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Welcome to the hide. You may want to complete you profile and state you budget for this build.

 

[desertHK]

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Welcome. Please fill out your profile. What is your maximum budget? and does that include, or exclude optics? Is this rifle primarily for punching paper and slaying metal gongs at 1000+ yards? Need for info.

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: patches</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Welcome to the hide. You may want to complete you profile and state you budget for this build. </div></div>

Thank you, Sir. I will do so.

I think the budget will be about 3,000.00 for this one.... maybe a little more but not much.... I'm getting the yearly bonus next month and, my hands are trembling in anticipation.

It will be only a functional rifle from all of your perspectives. It won't have bells or whistles.

I'm really pretty proud of my old M1A supermatch for what it is.

I'm looking to shoot the heavy bullets in a reasonable platform that I can load for all day and not break the bank. I know the 300 win mag is going to kick like a mule but, I'm a shooter and, I don't flinch hahah

I've been loading the 175gr SMK in the old M1A.. seems like 41.5gr of IMR 4895 is the solution for that rifle.... makes enough velocity to make the 1000yd line and not beat the op rod to crap.... can't use the slower burning powders for it.

Looking for more accuracy and longer range in a rifle that will shoot way inside of that round. Not sure why I don't want the 260rem but, I want the 300 win mag.

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DesertHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Welcome. Please fill out your profile. What is your maximum budget? and does that include, or exclude optics? Is this rifle primarily for punching paper and slaying metal gongs at 1000+ yards? Need for info. </div></div>

only for slaying metal gongs at 1000+ and about 3000.00 or a little more and trying to put some optics on it for that cash too.

 

[RemingtonSPS]

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I would find a used Remington LA standard bolt face. Sell the bolt on Gunbroker. You can usually find these actions for $400 or less in fact i think there is one for sale in the Firearms Classifieds on this site (if you went with Savage price goes way down and they shoot good too). Fit it with a tighter bolt from Superiorshootingsupplies.com or a Pacific Tool and Gauge replacement bolt. I would do this because it gives you a tighter fitting bolt to reciever fit and makes for better accuracy.

The stock: Whatever is cheap that you can use prone. If you are mechanically inclined buy a prone laminate stock from Richards Microfit Gunstocks and finish and bed it yourself. They are usually $200.

EGW base $40

Benchmark Barrel threaded and chambered to your action $495

Burris Rings $40

The 20x Super Sniper would probably work fine.

That would give you the whole rig for around $1200. I don't know what the Super Sniper scopes are going for but they arent expensive. $300-500 i think and they're durable.

Savages are cheap and incredibly accurate. Everything is cheaper for them, stocks, triggers, etc. If you are wanting a real budget build look into this. You can buy a Savage Stevens for dirt cheap with a magnum bolt face brand new and sell all the parts off of it and harvest the action for alot less than the Remmy.

The Remington will essentially be a custom actioned rifle for cheap. If you are wanting to save a few hundered bucks you can try to find a LA Magnum Remington and use the factory bolt or pay $185 and have the standard bolt face opened up to magnum and fitted with a Sako extractor. If you go with the aftermarket bolt don't go over .699" unless you have a gunsmith bore the raceway, trust me it's too tight.

Enjoy!

 

[RemingtonSPS]

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For a $3000 budget do the above but get a manners stock instead and maybe a better optic like a Leupy.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Edited to add: Check the firearms for sale section there are lots of 300win mags being sold for good deals. There is a barreled action for $675 right now.</span>

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MuleHunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For a $3000 budget do the above but get a manners stock instead and maybe a better optic like a Leupy. </div></div>

I like the little super sniper scopes... I have one that is totally functional that works well on my supermatch... it's a 10x42 and, you can zero it at 200 and dial it back to the 1000yd line and, spin the turret back to your 200yd zero and, it does what you'd expect it to do... it's not fancy and, it's not the best glass you can buy but, it does what I expect it to do.

I think the Leupy may be the short term solution for me on this build... maybe one of the variable power ones that go to 14x or so in a tactical version.... seems like the good trade off... can't spend the 2 grand on the nightforce at the moment.

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MuleHunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<span style="color: #FF0000">Edited to add: Check the firearms for sale section there are lots of 300win mags being sold for good deals. There is a barreled action for $675 right now.</span> </div></div>

damn, I didn't even think of that.... how could you have a better place than this to find what I'm looking for? LOL

 

[jwoolf]

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any way I look at it... I've got a lot of learning before I pull the trigger on this.... I want to get the best all around performer for the cash....

I believe in paying a gun plumber for the performance I want but, as I've said, this is a budget build.... I've got about 3,000.00 on this one and, that's about it for now.... it's not much but, I think with the right careful thought and patience then I can come up with something I'll love to shoot.

With the folks here and, the search function and the advice I've already gotten that I'll start my research quest with, things will work themselves out.... the thing is that I have a month to decide and, that probably won't be enough time!!!

 

[mwroseberry]

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Stevens in 300WM - $400
Your choice of stock - $200-however much you want to spend
SSS Trigger - $100
Shillen Custom Barrel - $300-$450
EGW 20MOA base - $45
Burris Rings - $50

That's $1090 for the weapon which leaves you almost 2K for optic. I'm doing basically the same thing in 308 at the moment.

Good luck,
Merritt
SGT USMC vet.

 

[learjet]

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id build a savage cuase u can save soo much money doin it yourself. ive got 3 homebuilds, workin on a 338 rum now. hit every pawnshop within driving distance. u can often stumble on used savage/stevens for $300 or less.

u could try 155 scenars in ur m1a...they might surprise u. i load them w 46g of varget, cant rmemeber the OAl offhand, but they fit in the mag and function fine. gets me to 1k easy, thinkin it was 32moa. they felt much easier on my rifle than 175s, and obviously u can pushem faster, even in the m1a.

lear

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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The Savage 111 Long Range Hunter is available with the .300WM chambering. Accue-Stock, Accue-Trigger, Adjustable Cheek Rest, Muzzle Brake, around $940 list.

While I respect your choice of chamberings, my choice would be for a .30-'06 or .260 Rem.

Greg

 

[jwoolf]

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This is great info.

I really like the idea of putting it together and barreling and bedding it myself.

So, a lot of folks like the Savage/Stevens. I have a buddy that's been telling me that too.

So basically all the stuff listed in the savage post above will just drop in. Headspace the barrel install, bed the stock, drop the trigger in and, you're off to the races.

 

[jwoolf]

Re: need opinions on new rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Savage 111 Long Range Hunter is available with the .300WM chambering. Accue-Stock, Accue-Trigger, Adjustable Cheek Rest, Muzzle Brake, around $940 list.

While I respect your choice of chamberings, my choice would be for a .30-'06 or .260 Rem.

Greg </div></div>

Sell me on the 30-06 please. ( I'm being serious )

I have a LOT of M72 LC match here that is leftover from my jr. shooting days that DCM issued us to practice with.

Guess I could shoot the 200gr pills with it. ( and the 7 400 round cans of match ammo I have. LOL

The thing is, I'm wanting a rifle that reaches the 1000yd line with serious confidence. The 7.62x51 in my supermatch goes subsonic at 1060yds.

I know the 06 can make it better than that with heavier bullets and slow burning powders in a long barreled bolt gun but, a long barreled 300wm will really get out there.

 

[learjet]

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check out

http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/

would be best and easiest to build from a rifle in the caliber u want. no need to change boltheads, mag boxes, firing pins, etc. if u go long action there arent a bunch of aftermarket stock choices. there are a few, either expensive, or longer wait times. apparently choate may come out w another long action stock if ud consider them. the accustocks appear to be nice, but i dont think anyone makes an aftermarket replacement for them

lots more options in short actions, but the magazines vary, and theres 2 different screw hole spacings.

 

[steve123]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jwoolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">please no flames.

I am going to do a lot of research on this.... on this board.

I think I want to build a 300 win mag on the budget.... don't think I can afford a USO or nightforce at the moment but, I'm about to have a little cash on hand to put together a precision rifle of some sort.

So, I'm new to this site. I do reload pretty proficiently. I used to shoot the national match course as a kid and went to perry 6yrs in a row as a jr shooter in the louisiana state team so, I'm in no way a new shooter but, I'm new to precision rifle and, I have access to a 1000yd range.

So, I'm trying to put together a 1000yd rifle with punch. ( I know 260rem is probably the way to go ) but, I want a 300 win mag.

Since I'm trying to do this on a budget, it's probably on a rem 700...

crap... once I start reading, I'm going to be embarrassed for posting this since, I'm sure the very folks that I'm going to respect the most will just roll their eyes at this post.

So, since I'm going to put fourth my first post in an ignorant newbie post like this.... How would YOU go about putting together a budget 300 win mag with optics?

I just shot the 2 man sniper match at tiger valley last weekend with an old M1A supermatch with some optics on it... LOL ( my old national match course rifle ) haha the damned thing shoots sub moa but, just barely but, the old 7.62x51 just barely makes it and, you have to use medium burning powders to keep from breaking the op rod.

So, I have a good semi-auto that does 800yds with confidence but, I want the rifle that takes it farther and shoots inside of the old 7.62x51 that can challenge the 338 on a budget and shoot the 1000yd line like the 7.62x51 can at the 600yd line.

I want to put good optics on it but, I just may not be able to swing the USO or Nightforce right now.... my best bet may be to just wait on what I want.... I hate getting something and being pissed at myself for not getting the right thing the first time.
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Just so you know.

Research the BC and ballistics of the 7mm's with heavy bullets.

7mm Mag,WSM,RSUAM with 180 VLD,180 JLK,175 SMK.It'll shoot inside a 300WM in the wind with less recoil and pretty much the same barrel life.

Buy slightly used and save $! Have Patience,research and get something that you will be proud of...That way you can have the good scope too within your budget.Buy the scope used also.Make sure the scope brand you choose has a good warranty!

I've seen some screaming deals here on the Hide.Fixed up Rem 700's for $1200 sometimes.USO ST 10's for $900.

Steve

 

[DMann]

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Radical thought here, but..., buy the scope first. Get the best optic you can afford that you think is going to do what you want and then put a rifle under it.

You have a buttload of LC .30-06 brass - look at the .280 AI - 7mm bullets are superb - the 175 SMK's run great out to 1K.

Used rifles are usually treasures in disguise - do not be afraid.

If you are anywhere close to Shreveport, get to know "wnroscoe" on this site.

 

[jwoolf]

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I have a bunch of LC brass in 7.62x51 but, I have a crap load of loaded M72 match.

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DMann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

If you are anywhere close to Shreveport, get to know "wnroscoe" on this site. </div></div>

I'm about 3hrs from shreveport.

 

[DMann]

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There are no flies on the .30-06. With a stock of ammo and brass such as that, I think I would try to put together a .30-06. Go to the Reloading forum here and check out the .30-06 thread(s) to see what some of the guys are able to do with the old girl.

William Roscoe is a darn fine gun plumber and has a thread in the gunsmithing forum where he takes you through truing a Remmie action from step one to done. Check his site out: http://www.louisianaprecisionrifles.com/

Savages are good rifles and can be user-customized to an acceptable level of performance. Most here run a Remington-based system due to the huge after-market of gadgets and accessories.

Keep us posted.

 

[Impact]

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I know a complete 300WIN mag for sale on another forum, I would snag it but I got too many projects. Pm me for info.

here is the info:

Package includes the following: $1,750 plus shipping

Remington 700, in 300 win mag, with PSS stock
Badger Ordinance base with 20 MOA
Badger Ordinance 30mm rings
Leather sling
Eagle stock pouch/cheek pad
Harris Bipod
Leupold 3.5-10x40mm long range scope with ¾ mil dot
200 rounds 190gr HPBT, WCC, (all from the same lot)
40 rounds 190gr sierra matchking, Federal Gold Medal

 

[mwroseberry]

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http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/73/products_id/14610

If you want a 30-06

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Impact</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know a complete 300WIN mag for sale on another forum, I would snag it but I got too many projects. Pm me for info.

here is the info:

Package includes the following: $1,750 plus shipping

Remington 700, in 300 win mag, with PSS stock
Badger Ordinance base with 20 MOA
Badger Ordinance 30mm rings
Leather sling
Eagle stock pouch/cheek pad
Harris Bipod
Leupold 3.5-10x40mm long range scope with ¾ mil dot
200 rounds 190gr HPBT, WCC, (all from the same lot)
40 rounds 190gr sierra matchking, Federal Gold Medal

</div></div>

Damn..... that sure seems like a nice place to begin.

Does anyone ever do anything with the old 1903 springfield receivers? I've got an old sporterized 1903 that needs a new barrel and stock sitting around that my dad used to shoot with the original barrel on it. I don't know if that is even worth the effort or not... I'm totally ignorant on this one. Receiver and bolt seem to be in good shape.

Edit: to add that the 1903 would be another project completely.

I think I'm going to start this project with something like a: Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56... and go from there.... I'll look around here and find one for the right price.

I don't think I'll be happy without the right optic on it and, this scope seems to be the entry level into the really high end stuff.... I still have a LOT to learn but, that's why I'm here.

I've got a lot to think about and read before I feel like I am educated enough to make a decision on the rifle...

So do I want the 300 win mag or the 7mm mag? Do I want the savage or the rem 700 receiver? Too much to take into account right now but, I feel reasonably sure I want the nightforce.

 

[ASIPLEASE]

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Trip the '03 and do things right.

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DMann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are no flies on the .30-06. With a stock of ammo and brass such as that, I think I would try to put together a .30-06. Go to the Reloading forum here and check out the .30-06 thread(s) to see what some of the guys are able to do with the old girl.

William Roscoe is a darn fine gun plumber and has a thread in the gunsmithing forum where he takes you through truing a Remmie action from step one to done. Check his site out: http://www.louisianaprecisionrifles.com/

Savages are good rifles and can be user-customized to an acceptable level of performance. Most here run a Remington-based system due to the huge after-market of gadgets and accessories.

Keep us posted. </div></div>

Man, that guy is right around the corner from me..... 3hrs in the truck and, I'm at his shop.

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ASIPLEASE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trip the '03 and do things right. </div></div>

LOL... I only think about the old 03 because it was dad's old deer rifle and, I'd want to put something together around it so I'd actually shoot it.

I don't know if it would make sense to do or not... probably not.

Meh, either way, that's another subject completely.

For this one about the only thing I know is that if I do the 300 win mag ( which is very likely ), I'll go with 24 or 26" bbl with a 1:10 twist so I can shoot the heavy pills and, I'm going to put a nightforce on it.... that's about all I have decided since I'm so new at the specifics on what folks are doing to trick out their bolt guns but, that's why I'm here in the first place.

I'm choosing the nightforce because I can't drop the bucks on the USO or S&B and, seems like there are enough used ones to find here or, I wouldn't be able to get the nightforce.

The rest is all up in the air but, I'm leaning in the direction of the remington 700 action since there seem to be so many options and folks tricking them out.... kind of the gold standard for a place to begin into this sport.

 

[jwoolf]

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So, If I'm going to purchase a receiver for this build... .over the years has the Rem 700 LA receiver changed? Is there anything I should avoid?

For example, if I find an older rifle NIB that is dirt cheap, should I jump on it knowing that I'm going to only use the receiver?

 

[DMann]

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The Rem 700 has changed very little from its first models rolling off the line. Earliest versions retained a vestigial stripper clip loading slot, but it was mostly a style point as a stripper clip wouldn't actually fit. In short, any changes you might encounter are routinely and easily handled by competent 'smiths and after-market parts. A good argument can be made that an earlier version with a pre-X-Mark and J-lock trigger and bolt group is to be preferred over what's currently offered.

You would not be crazy to buy an older pre-owned Magnum-actioned Remmie for a donor action only. Stock and barrel can be sold to offset buy-in.

Sit on the M1903 and make it a long-term project to restore to as-issued trim. With that stock of M2 ball ammo, it would be a natural for "vintage rifle" CMP matches.

Enjoy your new addiction.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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Sell you on the .30-'06? I'll try.

When it was adopted as the US Service Rifle Cartridge, one of the key criteria was the conclusion that it generated the maximum amount of recoil that could be sustained for an indefinite number of rounds by the average American soldier. I consider this to be crucial to the concept that the rifle must be used regularly and extensively in order to become the sort of 'appendage' a true rifleman's implement must be.

While it's replacement with the .308 was adopted, and was deemed adequate; IMHO, it was only marginally so. Whatever marginality the .308 may possess is clearly corrected by the .30-'06. The bolt face diameter is highly common, allowing re/switch-barrelling with chamberings ranging from .22-250 to .35 Whelen. The .30-'06 is considered my most to be adequate for any game native to the North American continent.

I no longer possess any .308 chambered firearms. My LR capable firearms are either .280 Rem, .260 Rem, or .30-'06, and I find the trajectory data for the last two to be highly similar. My requirement for a 1Kyd capable load is a 1Kyd velocity of 1300fps minimum. Likewise, I consider bore life to be quite similar. If the .30-'06 is adequate, I think that as the .260 uses the .308's capacity optimally, the .280 may be a similar case for the .30-'06 chambering. But unlike the .308, the .30-'06 stands on its own with no questions about adequacy.

Finally, I've owned the AR, the M1A, and the Garand. These days, only the Garand remains.

If a facility sells amunition, one of the staple chamberings that are maintined in stock as regularly as possible will be the .30-'06. Over a century of service, and still going strong.

Greg

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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Sometimes, when I'm daydreaming, I wonder what an '03 or an M1917 would be like, chambered in .260 Rem...

...Or maybe .280 Rem...

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DMann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sit on the M1903 and make it a long-term project to restore to as-issued trim. With that stock of M2 ball ammo, it would be a natural for "vintage rifle" CMP matches.

Enjoy your new addiction. </div></div>

The thing is, that stuff isn't M2 ball, it's Lake City M72 white box Match. 173gr BT ammo.

The only issue with it is the bullets are not as consistent as the newer SMK or anything like that.... that's my biggest beef with it. They used to issue that stuff on the line at camp perry long ago. You can pull the bullets and put SMK 175s on them and, you've got official ( Mexi-Match ) stuff that everyone loves so much.

Hell, come to think of it... I could even sell some of that stuff off to help fund this project.

I'm holding on to all my M118 and M852 though.

EDIT: The best part about any of that match ammo is that the brass is annealed and, the primer pockets aren't military crimped and can be reloaded easily.

Hell, if anyone around the Dallas area wants any M72 match, I'll let it go for 300.00/400 round can with all matching lots and you get the can with it. LOL

Otherwise, I may be forced to put it up on Gunbroker and gouge some poor sod. haha

 

[jwoolf]

Re: need opinions on new rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sell you on the .30-'06? I'll try.

When it was adopted as the US Service Rifle Cartridge, one of the key criteria was the conclusion that it generated the maximum amount of recoil that could be sustained for an indefinite number of rounds by the average American soldier. I consider this to be crucial to the concept that the rifle must be used regularly and extensively in order to become the sort of 'appendage' a true rifleman's implement must be.

While it's replacement with the .308 was adopted, and was deemed adequate; IMHO, it was only marginally so. Whatever marginality the .308 may possess is clearly corrected by the .30-'06. The bolt face diameter is highly common, allowing re/switch-barrelling with chamberings ranging from .22-250 to .35 Whelen. The .30-'06 is considered my most to be adequate for any game native to the North American continent.

I no longer possess any .308 chambered firearms. My LR capable firearms are either .280 Rem, .260 Rem, or .30-'06, and I find the trajectory data for the last two to be highly similar. My requirement for a 1Kyd capable load is a 1Kyd velocity of 1300fps minimum. Likewise, I consider bore life to be quite similar. If the .30-'06 is adequate, I think that as the .260 uses the .308's capacity optimally, the .280 may be a similar case for the .30-'06 chambering. But unlike the .308, the .30-'06 stands on its own with no questions about adequacy.

Finally, I've owned the AR, the M1A, and the Garand. These days, only the Garand remains.

If a facility sells amunition, one of the staple chamberings that are maintined in stock as regularly as possible will be the .30-'06. Over a century of service, and still going strong.

Greg </div></div>

Thanks, Greg. I'm not sure on this on yet but, I'm really loving on the 300wm ballistics right now. I do agree with everything you said, however. For the 1000yd line, the old tried and true 30-06 is way easier to get to shoot it than the 308win.

If I didn't already own a 7.62x51 in my M1A SuperMatch, I'd probably build this rifle in 308win mostly because of its popularity. Hell, there are no flies on my SuperMatch... that damned thing will shoot MOA with me loading for it as long as the gas system is clean but, when you get it to the long ranges with medium burning powders, you're right at the end of what that rifle can do and, you'd better be watching the wind closely. LOL

For this one, I'm looking for the 1000yd plus gun with good glass, a fast twist long barrel and, the more I look, the more I'll probably end up spending on it. LOL

I'm looking for this rifle to handle the 1000yd line like the 308 handles the 600yd line.

 

[THUNDERBOLT68]

Re: need opinions on new rifle

I would not use 30-06 there are so much better calibersout there.

 

[jwoolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sometimes, when I'm daydreaming, I wonder what an '03 or an M1917 would be like, chambered in .260 Rem...

...Or maybe .280 Rem... </div></div>

You know, I may do something like that but, not because it's smart to do so but, only because.... 1.) it will be different and, 2.) because it was my dad's rifle.

I have a bone stock 1903 that is in VERY good shape. The one I'm speaking of has a regular rifle stock on it and has a scope on it.... it has that same old stepped barrel on it though. LOL

Might be fun one day to use the bolt and receiver and build something that will go into this century and, I can raise some eyebrows while preserving my dad's old rifle. LOL 260 rem. sounds like the trick for that rifle. haha

With a google search, I found a stock for the old girl really fast... could probably search farther and find more stuff. A few passes with the tru-oil and, bed it and barrel it... good to go.

 

[joelsa58]

Re: need opinions on new rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jwoolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DMann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

If you are anywhere close to Shreveport, get to know "wnroscoe" on this site. </div></div>

I'm about 3hrs from shreveport. </div></div>

William did some awsome work for me. I stood there and watched as he squared a couple of barrels aways for me. His tolerances surpass any competition. I am deffinately going to call this guy the next time I need a custom build!