Wanted to see if anyone knows about or has any updates on the new 700 SA actions that are supposed to be hitting the market soon. Had heard of something from both L3i and Elemental Industries but seems they are both delayed. They both seemed promising and am debating on whether to start a new build or wait for something new.
New .22 actions still coming?
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The L3I is still happening. Just crazy how much work bringing a firearm to market has been! The barrels have been sorted (CZ barrels are proof) and the first batch of production actions is underway.
We got a little sidetracked due to bringing the new chassis on board at the time time, the goal is to offer a complete comp ready rifle along with the barreled actions.
We got a little sidetracked due to bringing the new chassis on board at the time time, the goal is to offer a complete comp ready rifle along with the barreled actions.
Take your time and do it right, I am looking forward to seeing your results. From the post you have made that I have seen it looks to me that you guys are on the right track.
@Thesepaperwings I completely agree with @jbell. Rushing a product to market won’t help. Taking your time to develop a quality product will always pay dividends. Look forward to getting behind one.
Heard about it but haven't seen any updates, I know L3I should have their stinger out soon. Kauger arms is in the works from what they said at shot shot and Mac brothers are working on their own as well.
Yeah ,,,,,Kauger told me two and a half years ago they were about to release it , then last fall they told me it got out on the back burner but they were going to work on it again , we will see
The new owners of Stiller promised one , advertised one , told people about one , then sold off the old stock they had and shelved the project , said they were not going to do it
elemental industries , is that a 40x clone ? I need to look that one up
The new owners of Stiller promised one , advertised one , told people about one , then sold off the old stock they had and shelved the project , said they were not going to do it
elemental industries , is that a 40x clone ? I need to look that one up
We (L3I) planned on having ours out by now but honestly it just took longer than we thought lol. In the mean time we had the barrels and the chassis catch up to the action so at least now we'll have all three
I must ask, What is the problem with current actions?
Actions from 1950 are still shooting with the current latest and greatest. Not much room for improvement. Rimfire issues are largely ammunition based. And it’s a design flaw that cannot be corrected.
Actions from 1950 are still shooting with the current latest and greatest. Not much room for improvement. Rimfire issues are largely ammunition based. And it’s a design flaw that cannot be corrected.
Much smoother bolt function and better ejection. An easy 60* bolt throw requires more attention to cam engaging machining.
Good question, Some of The top shooters in NRL/PRS are running Vudoos in both 90 and 360 with excellent results, others run a Rim X with great results. There is no perfect action that is the best. Find a system you like and LEARN it then perfect it then focus on you the shooter. People want to buy accomplishments and performance instead of learning and earning it.
I bought 4 Vudoo rifles and none of them shot this well even after sending all of them in for lot testing of top tier ammo.
Not being critical of Vudoo at all. They all shot well. Just not as accurate as some older rifles. Probably accurate enough.
I simply think rimfire accuracy has little room for improvement. With no control over ammo we are about as far as we can go.
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RTH1800 makes a very good point about older rifles. It's not necessary to have the newest or most popular model to get good results.
While new rifles may have more appeal for many, there are older rifles that shoot very well. Of course with any rifle, newer or older, it's always about the ammo. No rifle, new or old, whatever the make, will outshoot the ammo its given.
Below are some 100 yard ten shot groups with a rifle that's now 52 years old.
First a 100 yard target showing four consecutive ten-shot groups. The four group average is just under .700" center-to-center.
Some 100 yard ten-shot groups measured outside-to-outside.
While new rifles may have more appeal for many, there are older rifles that shoot very well. Of course with any rifle, newer or older, it's always about the ammo. No rifle, new or old, whatever the make, will outshoot the ammo its given.
Below are some 100 yard ten shot groups with a rifle that's now 52 years old.
First a 100 yard target showing four consecutive ten-shot groups. The four group average is just under .700" center-to-center.
Some 100 yard ten-shot groups measured outside-to-outside.
A lot of rifles shoot great just not in PRS off of barricades. It's the way we use the rifle that makes the difference. Before we started making PRS specific rifles back in 2020 there was no such thing as a PRS rifle. The accuracy is there if the proper components and process are used,
I chose my hunting rifle on several criteria. Accuracy with more than one lot of ammo was paramount. I did not want a picky rifle.
Another was ability to hold point of impact day to day and from all positions. Offhand, over knees, sitting and prone with and without sling, off bench, rested along side tree with hand supporting, aver log with hand supporting etc.
The rifle I selected from several dozen outperformed every other one in every way tested. Personally I think it’s one in a thousand. (Of course I have not tested 1000)
Targets shot to verify POI Sitting resting over knees with back against a tree. 50, 100 and 200 yards. Not benchrest or prone accuracy but good enough for sitting.
Dots are 1/2” and 2”. Scope is 6X
Another was ability to hold point of impact day to day and from all positions. Offhand, over knees, sitting and prone with and without sling, off bench, rested along side tree with hand supporting, aver log with hand supporting etc.
The rifle I selected from several dozen outperformed every other one in every way tested. Personally I think it’s one in a thousand. (Of course I have not tested 1000)
Dots are 1/2” and 2”. Scope is 6X
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