There was a short story, including photos of a New sniper rifle being fielded by the Army. It showed a Remington 700 in the new AI AX stock/chassis (black). The story stated that the rifle can be fired to a certain range. I can't recall what distance they stated but it was obvious that it had to be a 338 Lapua or something thereabouts. They showed still photos and action photos or video of soldiers using the rifle. I haven't been around here a whole lot lately due to work, but I wasn't aware that the US Army was purchasing the AX chassis'.
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New Army sniper rifle just on Fox news
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Apparently it is called the "XM2010"
Wondering if it is a 300 WM or a 338 L?
Apparently it is called the "XM2010"
Wondering if it is a 300 WM or a 338 L?
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their not Purchasing the AX its the modular stock from REMINGTON;
Remington won the contract to refurb a certain amount of M24 rifles to 300winmag caliber, add suppressors, new scopes, etc., etc.,
their not Purchasing the AX its the modular stock from REMINGTON;
Remington won the contract to refurb a certain amount of M24 rifles to 300winmag caliber, add suppressors, new scopes, etc., etc.,
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Now that I'm googling the rifle, thr photos are showing the new Remington modular stock and stated " 300 Win mag". Guess I need to get more regular updates here.
Now that I'm googling the rifle, thr photos are showing the new Remington modular stock and stated " 300 Win mag". Guess I need to get more regular updates here.
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I wonder how much the Remington stock cost VS the AX? I believe AX is only around $900 or so and "heard that the Remington stock is significantly more. Anyone have the numbers?
I wonder how much the Remington stock cost VS the AX? I believe AX is only around $900 or so and "heard that the Remington stock is significantly more. Anyone have the numbers?
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Is it this? The XM-25??
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4438880/xm-25-rifle-in-action/
Is it this? The XM-25??
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4438880/xm-25-rifle-in-action/
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All the info on these rifles are on Remingtons website. http://www.remingtonmilitary.com
They will be chambered in .338 lapua, 338 norma, 300 win mag, and 7.62 nato. But the current contract is for .300 win mag
Remington arms was recently awarded the contract to convert the m24s to .300 win mag:
Madison, NC – Remington Arms Company, Inc. (“Remington”), a member of the Freedom Group of Companies, is pleased to announce that the United States Army’s Joint Munitions and Lethality Contracting Center has awarded Remington a Firm Fixed Price (FFP) Indefinite Delivery/ Indefinite Quantity (ID/IQ) contract (W15QKN-10-R-0403) for the upgrade of up to 3,600 M24 Sniper Weapon Systems (SWS) currently fielded to the Army pending type classification as the “M24E1”. The major configuration change for this system is the caliber conversion from 7.62mm NATO (.308 Winchester) to .300 Winchester Magnum to provide soldier’s with additional precision engagement capability and range. The contract is for a five (5) year period and has guaranteed minimum value of $192K with a potential value of up to $28.2 million. This award follows a full and open competitive evaluation lasting 9 months, which began with the release of the Army’s Request for Proposal (RFP) on 13 January 2010. The program will be executed under the authority of Project Manager Soldier Weapons, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ, and managed by its subordinate unit, Product Manager Individual Weapons.
Remington’s winning sniper rifle features the following enhancements above and beyond caliber conversion from 7.62mm NATO to .300 Winchester Magnum:
- A completely new chassis (stock) assembly, which maximizes the amount of physical adjustments for the sniper to provide a true customized fit. The chassis has a folding buttstock that radically shortens the system for easier transport and greater concealment during movement and accommodates the mounting of accessories via removable Mil Std 1913 Picatinny Rails.
- An improved 6.5-20x50 variable power Leupold® riflescope with an enhanced reticle within the first focal plane and a .300 Winchester Magnum bullet-drop compensator (BDC)
- A quick-attach/detach Advanced Armament Corp.® suppressor with muzzle brake
- A 5-round detachable box magazine
- Advanced corrosion resistant coatings throughout the system
All the info on these rifles are on Remingtons website. http://www.remingtonmilitary.com
They will be chambered in .338 lapua, 338 norma, 300 win mag, and 7.62 nato. But the current contract is for .300 win mag
Remington arms was recently awarded the contract to convert the m24s to .300 win mag:
Madison, NC – Remington Arms Company, Inc. (“Remington”), a member of the Freedom Group of Companies, is pleased to announce that the United States Army’s Joint Munitions and Lethality Contracting Center has awarded Remington a Firm Fixed Price (FFP) Indefinite Delivery/ Indefinite Quantity (ID/IQ) contract (W15QKN-10-R-0403) for the upgrade of up to 3,600 M24 Sniper Weapon Systems (SWS) currently fielded to the Army pending type classification as the “M24E1”. The major configuration change for this system is the caliber conversion from 7.62mm NATO (.308 Winchester) to .300 Winchester Magnum to provide soldier’s with additional precision engagement capability and range. The contract is for a five (5) year period and has guaranteed minimum value of $192K with a potential value of up to $28.2 million. This award follows a full and open competitive evaluation lasting 9 months, which began with the release of the Army’s Request for Proposal (RFP) on 13 January 2010. The program will be executed under the authority of Project Manager Soldier Weapons, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ, and managed by its subordinate unit, Product Manager Individual Weapons.
Remington’s winning sniper rifle features the following enhancements above and beyond caliber conversion from 7.62mm NATO to .300 Winchester Magnum:
- A completely new chassis (stock) assembly, which maximizes the amount of physical adjustments for the sniper to provide a true customized fit. The chassis has a folding buttstock that radically shortens the system for easier transport and greater concealment during movement and accommodates the mounting of accessories via removable Mil Std 1913 Picatinny Rails.
- An improved 6.5-20x50 variable power Leupold® riflescope with an enhanced reticle within the first focal plane and a .300 Winchester Magnum bullet-drop compensator (BDC)
- A quick-attach/detach Advanced Armament Corp.® suppressor with muzzle brake
- A 5-round detachable box magazine
- Advanced corrosion resistant coatings throughout the system
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some atl ga boys gonna get some love for those aac cans. they hit the jackpot. congrats aac
some atl ga boys gonna get some love for those aac cans. they hit the jackpot. congrats aac
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Last I heard round' the campfire the R.A.C.S is gonna be somewhere from $1500-$1800 roughly(asked Remy reps.at SHOT show 2010) if they release it publicly,just my .02cents
~Reagan
Last I heard round' the campfire the R.A.C.S is gonna be somewhere from $1500-$1800 roughly(asked Remy reps.at SHOT show 2010) if they release it publicly,just my .02cents
~Reagan
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http://www.army.mil/-news/2010/10/16/466...headline-title2
Tamilio also said fielding of the new sniper rifle, called the XM2010 -- the name is a departure from the Army's formally two- or three- digit weapon naming scheme -- has come quickly.
"In less than a year we're going to be fielding a piece of equipment that is going to add to the lethality of our Soldiers in the field," he said. The XM2010 is an improvement on the M24 sniper rifle system. A contract for production of the system was recently awarded to manufacturer Remington. Tamilio said it's expected fielding will happen in January.
The new rifle features a suppressor to allow Soldiers to fire the weapon in a suppressed environment and to also reduce muzzle flash. Also included, a fluted, free-floating barrel to give Soldiers more accuracy and heat dissipation. The weapon also sits on an improved bipod, Tamilio said, and features a modular rail system.
"(You can) screw a 1913 rail adaptor anywhere on here," Tamilio said. The system is unique in that it allows Soldiers to install a laser aiming device, for instance, and run the cord for that device inside the rail so they can install a activation button.
The included scope also features a reticle that will adjust based on the scope's zoom factor to maintain accuracy, is magazine-fed, has a 1,200 meter range, and a fully adjustable and collapsible butt stock.
"The key behind this weapons system -- the developments and improvements were built on what the snipers asked for," Tamilio said.
http://www.army.mil/-news/2010/10/16/466...headline-title2
Tamilio also said fielding of the new sniper rifle, called the XM2010 -- the name is a departure from the Army's formally two- or three- digit weapon naming scheme -- has come quickly.
"In less than a year we're going to be fielding a piece of equipment that is going to add to the lethality of our Soldiers in the field," he said. The XM2010 is an improvement on the M24 sniper rifle system. A contract for production of the system was recently awarded to manufacturer Remington. Tamilio said it's expected fielding will happen in January.
The new rifle features a suppressor to allow Soldiers to fire the weapon in a suppressed environment and to also reduce muzzle flash. Also included, a fluted, free-floating barrel to give Soldiers more accuracy and heat dissipation. The weapon also sits on an improved bipod, Tamilio said, and features a modular rail system.
"(You can) screw a 1913 rail adaptor anywhere on here," Tamilio said. The system is unique in that it allows Soldiers to install a laser aiming device, for instance, and run the cord for that device inside the rail so they can install a activation button.
The included scope also features a reticle that will adjust based on the scope's zoom factor to maintain accuracy, is magazine-fed, has a 1,200 meter range, and a fully adjustable and collapsible butt stock.
"The key behind this weapons system -- the developments and improvements were built on what the snipers asked for," Tamilio said.
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Would love to see more on that new line of scopes, That lupy looks beefy!
Would love to see more on that new line of scopes, That lupy looks beefy!
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When I first saw this on the Remington website I didn't much care for it. Looked like an ergonomical nightmare and I couldn't imagine trying to stalk with one. The I got the oppourtunity to shoot one at the int'l sniper comp. Very nice. Felt recoil was surprisingly low for a .338, and even better with the can.
The biggest thing that surprised me was the new Leupold though. Glad to see them finally listening to consumers. Turrets were nice, a little big. Glass is finally on par with some of the top tier scopes. Then of course mil/mil and FFP. After shooting I asked the Leupold rep "This is going to be a $3k scope isn't it?" he couldn't give me a price but did say it would be in that range.
When I first saw this on the Remington website I didn't much care for it. Looked like an ergonomical nightmare and I couldn't imagine trying to stalk with one. The I got the oppourtunity to shoot one at the int'l sniper comp. Very nice. Felt recoil was surprisingly low for a .338, and even better with the can.
The biggest thing that surprised me was the new Leupold though. Glad to see them finally listening to consumers. Turrets were nice, a little big. Glass is finally on par with some of the top tier scopes. Then of course mil/mil and FFP. After shooting I asked the Leupold rep "This is going to be a $3k scope isn't it?" he couldn't give me a price but did say it would be in that range.
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Forgive me, but that thing sure has a lot of sharp edges on it that seem almost guaranteed to hang up on stuff like clothing, straps, etc etc. There's a reason rifle stocks are smooth. Did we forget?
Forgive me, but that thing sure has a lot of sharp edges on it that seem almost guaranteed to hang up on stuff like clothing, straps, etc etc. There's a reason rifle stocks are smooth. Did we forget?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gafferq2xl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> SWEET</span>
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what kind of rail cancer abortion is that?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gafferq2xl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> SWEET</span>
what kind of rail cancer abortion is that?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC is owned by the same parent group as rem. ^ </div></div>
go to aac and read company history you'll figure it out, i think
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC is owned by the same parent group as rem. ^ </div></div>
go to aac and read company history you'll figure it out, i think
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gafferq2xl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> SWEET</span>
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most of these new stocks are looking closer and closer to the tube gun stocks that have been around for awhile. everybody thought they were odd at first but after you handle a bolt gun with pistol grip round forend you start to see the benefits of it especially if you aren't prone.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gafferq2xl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> SWEET</span>
most of these new stocks are looking closer and closer to the tube gun stocks that have been around for awhile. everybody thought they were odd at first but after you handle a bolt gun with pistol grip round forend you start to see the benefits of it especially if you aren't prone.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: procovert45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC is owned by the same parent group as rem. ^ </div></div>
go to aac and read company history you'll figure it out, i think
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Remington acquires Advanced Armament Corp
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: procovert45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC is owned by the same parent group as rem. ^ </div></div>
go to aac and read company history you'll figure it out, i think
Remington acquires Advanced Armament Corp
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Ehh.
Not what I would spend my money on, but it is good for the guys, better than what they had.
Ehh.
Not what I would spend my money on, but it is good for the guys, better than what they had.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWRichmond</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Forgive me, but that thing sure has a lot of sharp edges on it that seem almost guaranteed to hang up on stuff like clothing, straps, etc etc. There's a reason rifle stocks are smooth. Did we forget? </div></div>Just what I was thinking!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWRichmond</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Forgive me, but that thing sure has a lot of sharp edges on it that seem almost guaranteed to hang up on stuff like clothing, straps, etc etc. There's a reason rifle stocks are smooth. Did we forget? </div></div>Just what I was thinking!
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It might be fugly but it was fun to handle and it feels pretty good on the prone. Remington brought a few to the studio and to a private shoot in Vegas for us.
It might be fugly but it was fun to handle and it feels pretty good on the prone. Remington brought a few to the studio and to a private shoot in Vegas for us.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWRichmond</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Forgive me, but that thing sure has a lot of sharp edges on it that seem almost guaranteed to hang up on stuff like clothing, straps, etc etc. There's a reason rifle stocks are smooth. Did we forget?</div></div>
Not to mention all the nooks and crannys for dirt, dust, sand, grass, mud, water to get into. It might shoot great, but it looks like a nightmare to maintain.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWRichmond</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Forgive me, but that thing sure has a lot of sharp edges on it that seem almost guaranteed to hang up on stuff like clothing, straps, etc etc. There's a reason rifle stocks are smooth. Did we forget?</div></div>
Not to mention all the nooks and crannys for dirt, dust, sand, grass, mud, water to get into. It might shoot great, but it looks like a nightmare to maintain.
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Is this and the AX what operational snipers want? This rifle looks ungainly, heavy, and high maintenance (exterior). I would think most would prefer just the opposite. Just my opinion.
Is this and the AX what operational snipers want? This rifle looks ungainly, heavy, and high maintenance (exterior). I would think most would prefer just the opposite. Just my opinion.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TDECK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this and the AX what operational snipers want? This rifle looks ungainly, heavy, and high maintenance (exterior). I would think most would prefer just the opposite. Just my opinion. </div></div>
I doubt it's heavy,Its made of mostly aluminum.Only the top rail is a mainstay,the rest are user addded/removed at the operators disposal if you look at it.According to the website,even the fore-arm and barrels/calibers are user changeable...crazy...my .02cents...
~Reagan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TDECK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this and the AX what operational snipers want? This rifle looks ungainly, heavy, and high maintenance (exterior). I would think most would prefer just the opposite. Just my opinion. </div></div>
I doubt it's heavy,Its made of mostly aluminum.Only the top rail is a mainstay,the rest are user addded/removed at the operators disposal if you look at it.According to the website,even the fore-arm and barrels/calibers are user changeable...crazy...my .02cents...
~Reagan
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Did that Leupold 6.5-20 get the nod too? F'kin shame, since the PRS contract spec is the only thing that dragged them into making what precision shooters have wanted for years.....
Did that Leupold 6.5-20 get the nod too? F'kin shame, since the PRS contract spec is the only thing that dragged them into making what precision shooters have wanted for years.....
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In addition to previous comments about the awkward/sharp edges I see a lot of failure points. It doesn't look like something that's meant for a hard life in the field.
Marc
In addition to previous comments about the awkward/sharp edges I see a lot of failure points. It doesn't look like something that's meant for a hard life in the field.
Marc
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did that Leupold 6.5-20 get the nod too? F'kin shame, since the PRS contract spec is the only thing that dragged them into making what precision shooters have wanted for years..... </div></div>
The Leupolds are going to be expensive a few vendors(SWFA) have them listed for sale on their websites but I don't believe they are shipping for quite some time.
http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20x50-Mark-4-ERT-34mm-Riflescope-P48098.aspx
One thing that I thought was interesting was that Remington is working with AI, and using the AI chassis calling it the 700 FED. Is this new or has Remington always been doing this? Scroll down the page http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/M700.aspx
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did that Leupold 6.5-20 get the nod too? F'kin shame, since the PRS contract spec is the only thing that dragged them into making what precision shooters have wanted for years..... </div></div>
The Leupolds are going to be expensive a few vendors(SWFA) have them listed for sale on their websites but I don't believe they are shipping for quite some time.
http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20x50-Mark-4-ERT-34mm-Riflescope-P48098.aspx
One thing that I thought was interesting was that Remington is working with AI, and using the AI chassis calling it the 700 FED. Is this new or has Remington always been doing this? Scroll down the page http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/M700.aspx
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Remington's MPD (military products div) has quite a few former SF snipers who are/where instrumental in the design of what you see above;
so is it what operational snipers want ? i guess so , as it seems to be what they designed when given the opportunity to do so , as Remington employees . . .
modularity, barrel change by shooter, suppressed, magazine fed, ergonomically adjusts to shooter, stock folds and captures the bolt for airborne ops (an attention to detail that other modular chassis stock makers have missed, mainly due to NOT being snipers), and the list goes on and on
it's the future , period .
Remington's MPD (military products div) has quite a few former SF snipers who are/where instrumental in the design of what you see above;
so is it what operational snipers want ? i guess so , as it seems to be what they designed when given the opportunity to do so , as Remington employees . . .
modularity, barrel change by shooter, suppressed, magazine fed, ergonomically adjusts to shooter, stock folds and captures the bolt for airborne ops (an attention to detail that other modular chassis stock makers have missed, mainly due to NOT being snipers), and the list goes on and on
it's the future , period .
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: banshee sws</div><div class="ubbcode-body">barrel change by shooter,</div></div>
This 'rifle' appears to just be the existing M24 receiver with a new barrel + stock. How is the barrel going to be user changeable in the field like the DTA SRS or the Barret MRAD? I'm not seeing anything that says the barrel is changeable, only that they changed it (due to the switch from SA to LA cartridges).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: banshee sws</div><div class="ubbcode-body">barrel change by shooter,</div></div>
This 'rifle' appears to just be the existing M24 receiver with a new barrel + stock. How is the barrel going to be user changeable in the field like the DTA SRS or the Barret MRAD? I'm not seeing anything that says the barrel is changeable, only that they changed it (due to the switch from SA to LA cartridges).
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Shooting a 220gr SMK at over 2800 fps. That could hurt a little.
Shooting a 220gr SMK at over 2800 fps. That could hurt a little.
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its like other 'offerings' , it can be had as a chassis only, retro fitting current weapon systems , ie., the M24 in operation now, to the chassis or it can had a as a entirely new system, known as the MSR, http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/
the SOCOM contract for the PSR stipulates user field expedient changes; the MSR system does that
its like other 'offerings' , it can be had as a chassis only, retro fitting current weapon systems , ie., the M24 in operation now, to the chassis or it can had a as a entirely new system, known as the MSR, http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/
the SOCOM contract for the PSR stipulates user field expedient changes; the MSR system does that
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One of the Leupold people is often at a range where I go. He tests every scope through a number of different parameters. From what I can see, Leupold has really paid attention to what the military, police, and other precision shooters want and need in a scope. They are trying really hard to claw their way into a kind of reputation like Schmidt & Bender, Hensoldt, and the other premier scope makers. Every time I asked him about something I thought they might have missed, I found that it is already on the scopes they are testing.
The only think I didn't ask him about was the lens coatings. In my experience, Leupold scopes tend to have a little trouble resolving the red/orange end of the color spectrum. If I try to shoot groups using red/orange dots through Leupold scopes, those groups are always bigger than if I use black, or green/blue spectrum dots or targets. I found that the edges of the red/orange targets are just not as clearly resolved as on the black/green/blue targets. Obviously, I switched target colors.
Otherwise, I really like the new Leupold scopes, and wonder how much they will end up costing..they sound really spendy though. You get what you pay for.
One of the Leupold people is often at a range where I go. He tests every scope through a number of different parameters. From what I can see, Leupold has really paid attention to what the military, police, and other precision shooters want and need in a scope. They are trying really hard to claw their way into a kind of reputation like Schmidt & Bender, Hensoldt, and the other premier scope makers. Every time I asked him about something I thought they might have missed, I found that it is already on the scopes they are testing.
The only think I didn't ask him about was the lens coatings. In my experience, Leupold scopes tend to have a little trouble resolving the red/orange end of the color spectrum. If I try to shoot groups using red/orange dots through Leupold scopes, those groups are always bigger than if I use black, or green/blue spectrum dots or targets. I found that the edges of the red/orange targets are just not as clearly resolved as on the black/green/blue targets. Obviously, I switched target colors.
Otherwise, I really like the new Leupold scopes, and wonder how much they will end up costing..they sound really spendy though. You get what you pay for.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gafferq2xl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> SWEET</span>
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personally not a huge fan of these types of chassis/stocks but man that thing looks mean!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gafferq2xl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> SWEET</span>
personally not a huge fan of these types of chassis/stocks but man that thing looks mean!!!!
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Looks too much like a competition rifle than a tactical. There seems to bee a lot more exposed areas, or items to break, or wear out that you wouldnt have to worry about on the more traditional stocks. Not a big fan of hinged stocks, and this one looks a little too transformer-ish. If a pistol grip is on the menu, the Mcree stocks look more useful in a deployment environment. The more nuts and bolts an item has is just one more issue to deal with if you loose one, or strip it out. Perhaps the Manners Thumbhole, or an AI stock. I have yet to see or hear how this particular design provides an edge over the standard M24A2 stock. I have seen guys shoot a PSS, I think, or a SPS, in .338LM, with no break/supressor and control was not an issue.
Looks too much like a competition rifle than a tactical. There seems to bee a lot more exposed areas, or items to break, or wear out that you wouldnt have to worry about on the more traditional stocks. Not a big fan of hinged stocks, and this one looks a little too transformer-ish. If a pistol grip is on the menu, the Mcree stocks look more useful in a deployment environment. The more nuts and bolts an item has is just one more issue to deal with if you loose one, or strip it out. Perhaps the Manners Thumbhole, or an AI stock. I have yet to see or hear how this particular design provides an edge over the standard M24A2 stock. I have seen guys shoot a PSS, I think, or a SPS, in .338LM, with no break/supressor and control was not an issue.
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its cuz someone has a friend somewhere that scratched someones back bro. thats all it is for the most part. its never whats "best" for the operators themselves
its cuz someone has a friend somewhere that scratched someones back bro. thats all it is for the most part. its never whats "best" for the operators themselves
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I know that at least two Hide members own this rifle. I've had the pleasure of firing one in 300WM and a 22" barrel. It looks like a great rifle for its purpose. If we're lucky may be one of the owners will post a review.
I know that at least two Hide members own this rifle. I've had the pleasure of firing one in 300WM and a 22" barrel. It looks like a great rifle for its purpose. If we're lucky may be one of the owners will post a review.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would bet money on 300 WM because almost everything I have read says they are leaning that direction. </div></div>
I read a small article in a Popular Mechanics or Popular Science magazine over the summer that said the Army WAS moving up to the 300WM in order to increase the effective range of their snipers, especially in the mountains of Afghanistan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would bet money on 300 WM because almost everything I have read says they are leaning that direction. </div></div>
I read a small article in a Popular Mechanics or Popular Science magazine over the summer that said the Army WAS moving up to the 300WM in order to increase the effective range of their snipers, especially in the mountains of Afghanistan
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