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I replaced a a-5 with the bravo way better feel for me. the grip is longer and just fits my monster hands better.Perhaps a dumb question, but how is the grip on the Bravo compared to traditional stocks?
I am used to Manners T2/McMillan A5 type grip/palm swell, which is what draws me to the Bravo...more conventional look/feel than a normal chassis. I owned a RPR but just couldn't get comfortable and consistent behind the thing...
One of y’all that already have a Bravo setup mind removing your cheek piece and doing an experiment for me? Due to being blind in one eye, I need to know if with the cheekpiece removed you can can get your head low enough on the stock to see through your opposite side eye.
I’m assuming that the studs for the cheekpiece are built into the cheekpiece, not the main stock body.
I understand what you're saying, but not sure how just the cheek piece plays into it. It would be very dependent on position, scope height, and a host of other factors. It is also very squared off when you take it off, and there is a divot that you'd have to fit your cheek into perfectly. If you're blind in one eye, I'd simply recommend shooting from the other shoulder. We practice this periodically at work, and it's not that hard.Anybody have the time?
"Slam?" No, just calling it like I see it. Taking the time to type out that you don't have the time to answer the phone?
I understand what you're saying, but not sure how just the cheek piece plays into it. It would be very dependent on position, scope height, and a host of other factors. It is also very squared off when you take it off, and there is a divot that you'd have to fit your cheek into perfectly. If you're blind in one eye, I'd simply recommend shooting from the other shoulder. We practice this periodically at work, and it's not that hard.
Yes you can.
Cool. You happen to know what your bore to scope center line measurement is? I appreciate you trying that.
I got my Sako green KRG Bravo last week, and love it. Took a bit to set it up like I want (sling mounts, butt spacers, etc), but I really like the results. My rifle lost weight going from the McRees chassis to this, and i like the ergos MUCH better. I've only shot it prone and off a bench, but I have not one single complaint about this. My range is very limited (500), but the shooting I did with it made me happy.
Wish I could find a sako green spray paint not to do some work on the barreled action and scope without having to go with duracoat (rifle was previously cerakoted OD green, and it doesn't match at all - will likely just rattle can over that black).
I replaced a a-5 with the bravo way better feel for me. the grip is longer and just fits my monster hands better.
For those that have Bravo with regular (not Whisky3) backbone, do you mind measure the thickness of the recoil lug cut? Trying to figure out whether I need the Whisky3 version or not. Thanks!
Mind posting some shots of the sako green bravo?
Yeah its a few inches shorter. Im not really concerned with that though. If you wanted it longer you could always go to the enclosed forend.How much shorter is the Bravo forearm compared to your A5?
At a glance, it appears to be a couple inches shorter.
Yeah its a few inches shorter. Im not really concerned with that though. If you wanted it longer you could always go to the enclosed forend.
It was mine too until i saw how small the forend was now im just gonna go with the arca rail and the arca spigot.My endstate is a bravo with enclosed forend. Best of both worlds IMHO.
Scott
Care to explain?It was mine too until i saw how small the forend was now im just gonna go with the arca rail and the arca spigot.
FYI, the one example of the Bravo 700 SA that I have does not have sufficient clearance in the area of the right side of the trigger pocket for the current version TriggerTech trigger's safety to engage.
-Howa fans don't get discouraged but we can't make any promises.
Thanks guys, we hope you like this one!
Justin
im running a trigger tech in the wiskey3 backbone and i have plenty of clearance. if i didn't i wouln't hesitate to take a dremel to it.Yeah, I had an issue with my Calvin Elite's safety binding and fully engaging. Stopped by their booth at SHOT and they said it was the first they had heard. Mine has the standard backbone. Does anyone know if the Whiskey backbone has more clearance?
Shotshow is pretty well known for taking companies offline for a week and it can financially strain a small company like KRG and others to randomly hire a person that can to answer phone calls and also be an expert at the product for $10/hr.
Relax and have some patience, they’ll get back with you.
Do you have the Long bolt stop on your 223? If not it seems it could be a problem with 308 based cartridges trying to get back fair enough to pic up a 2.950” Long cartridge with the Long bolt stop.I just received a Bravo and installed it on a Tikka .223 Varmint action. A couple of observations.
1. The stock is solid, no flex at all
2. The adjustable Cheek Rest gets in the way of the bolt on full extension. In other words, when set to the correct height for me, the bolt slams into the check rest before coming to a full stop.
3. The cheek rest has a little wobble to it once installed and cinched down. This is from the flex of the polymer.
4. This is a bit nit picky, but the rear half of the stock does not mate up to the front half cleanly. The rear section is slightly wider, and the lines do not match up cleanly.
Thanks,
That's a very good question. I don't know which bolt stop is installed. I've not modified it in any way. In fact, I've not even fired the rifle. I simply ordered the stock, installed it, and tested the bolt travel. I am running MDT magazines in the chassis. I'll have to look at the bolt stop. But, I can tell you that if the bolt comes any further back for SA and LA cartridges this stock is not going to be an option. I'll wait for KRG to respond to this thread for any answers.Do you have the Long bolt stop on your 223? If not it seems it could be a problem with 308 based cartridges trying to get back fair enough to pic up a 2.950” Long cartridge with the Long bolt stop.
Yes, that is the reason.Is this the reason for the hold up on the Bravo for the Howa?
https://www.legacysports.com/catalog/howa/howa-krg-bravo/
Yes, that is the reason.
Legacy Sports is vacuuming up all Howa-inlet production to get their inventory built up for launch. It will take a few months for KRG to get over the initial rush.
That's a very good question. I don't know which bolt stop is installed. I've not modified it in any way. In fact, I've not even fired the rifle. I simply ordered the stock, installed it, and tested the bolt travel. I am running MDT magazines in the chassis. I'll have to look at the bolt stop. But, I can tell you that if the bolt comes any further back for SA and LA cartridges this stock is not going to be an option. I'll wait for KRG to respond to this thread for any answers.
Yes indeed I figured as much....interesting options though especially once legacy gets done taking all the bravo stocks for themselves
I just received a Bravo and installed it on a Tikka .223 Varmint action. A couple of observations.
1. The stock is solid, no flex at all
2. The adjustable Cheek Rest gets in the way of the bolt on full extension. In other words, when set to the correct height for me, the bolt slams into the check rest before coming to a full stop.
3. The cheek rest has a little wobble to it once installed and cinched down. This is from the flex of the polymer.
4. This is a bit nit picky, but the rear half of the stock does not mate up to the front half cleanly. The rear section is slightly wider, and the lines do not match up cleanly.
Thanks,
Yeah, I had an issue with my Calvin Elite's safety binding and fully engaging. Stopped by their booth at SHOT and they said it was the first they had heard. Mine has the standard backbone. Does anyone know if the Whiskey backbone has more clearance?
The X-ray/W-3 comb should fit the Bravo. The post spacing and post clamp look identical between the three.Does anyone have an X-Ray or Whiskey 3 and a Bravo? Will the cheek piece from them fit the Bravo? Since they have the Overmold cheek piece available seperately, I wonder if that would be an option with he Bravo.
How much of the cheekpiece needs to be dremeled out to stop it from hitting the cheek piece with a tikka? Has anyone done this yet?
I should add, i talked to my gunsmith and he doesnt think the magwell will take more then an hour to mill out for CTR magazines. That means $60 for the TRG mag catch and $75 for chassis work so ~$135 to get the CTR magazines to work. If he wasn't booked out 1-2months i would get it done right now but i will wait till he slows down to get the work done.
I’m definitely interested in how this turns out and if it’s possible. Is the TRG mag catch extender needed to make the CTR mag work? Is anyone else having issues with the magazine fit?
I just outlined the bolt shroud and firing pin indicator on the cheek piece and dremeled it out.
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Yes, fully extended.is that with the bolt fully extended? i thought mine came out father then that!
Hey guys,
Thanks for your patience and for all your business! SHOT was pretty crazy this year. We're sort of getting caught up but business has increased dramatically. I'll try to address all that I've missed:
-The T3 cocking indicator does interfere with the Bravo cheekpiece in some positions as seen in the pics. The Bravo was designed for the Rem 700 first as opposed to the W-3 which was Tikka first. The current solution is to clearance the cheekpiece a little. In the future we'll have a fully relieved cheekpiece that will come with the T3 Bravos
-The X-ray/W-3 cheekpiece will in fact fit the Bravo.
-The recoil lug pocket on the Bravo is .300" usable from front to back, actual is .500" but there's a radius in the corners. The width and depth is what is the limiting factor for the larger recoil lugs. We had spoke with many of the custom action makers at SHOT and some are tweaking their lugs to fit the Bravo. In turn we are tweaking the Bravo to fit better with the integral lug actions. They have a very tiny radius behind the lug, a byproduct of machining, and that hits on the Bravo (and other chassis) so we're putting in a clearance chamfer on the recoil lug abutment.
-We will be looking into an inlet for the Tikka T1, it was pretty cool. However they had no idea on the timeframe. For a big company that probably means it's far away.
-Regarding trigger fitment, we have several aftermarket triggers and try to make everything fit but it's impossible. For some reason the trigger companies see no reason to stick to a Rem 700 "footprint", haha. You should see the new Tubb trigger.
-Regarding phone calls, yes we literally had to stop answering the phone. I and the rest of the crew apologize but at some point that's the only option as the calls are so time intensive. With the new Bravo orders and SHOT, we have been maxed out. Sometimes you don't know if that business is going to last, ala the AR market that exploded and companies expanded then later went belly up. Right now we are working on measured expansion. We do place a premium on customer service so we're taking steps.
Thank you all for your business, we're doing out best to produce great stuff that all of us shooters like to use and appreciate you choosing us,
Justin
thats pretty clean, what did you use?