New GAP Extreme Hunter in 6.5 SAUM

Interested to know how the AccuBond-LR works out. Between a new 6.54S rifle on the way and finally getting into reloading, I am freakin excited to get home and get started! Thanks btw to George and Psinclair for answering all my typical "NEW JACK" reloading questions.

Xtreme Prototype!! I got some 129 grain Accubond LR's to try on some Speedgoats in a couple weeks!!
 
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Im getting excited my dies and brass will be here Tuesday thanks josh. Im meeting with my gunsmith this weekend to go over all the particulars. Hopefully I will be joining the ranks in a month or so. Great thread and thanks to everyone for all your help
 
Well my project is coming together. I have my barrel, action, trigger guard, dies, brass, powder and trigger. Waiting on my Manners to arrive then off to the smith.
Looking forward being part of the cool crowd.
 
Running the APA bottom metal using Accurate Mags 300WSM mag, with the front plate removed.

It weighs in at 9lbs even, as pictured, with the Montana Sling on it.

It is perfect weight and balance for a do all hunting/ LR shooting platform !



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I get dibs on your 260.....

The Kaiser
 
For those shooting the 6.5 4S, what are you running for neck clearance? I was thinking .004" but wanted to see what was working for everyone. Read through this a few times but didn't see anything.

Any info appreciated.
 
What's the deal with the "no turn" version on the 4S? Will the neck run out end up messing with my repeatable accuracy, or is it not going to make that much difference? I understand the reason for having concentric neck tension but is it really worth the extra brass prep? I would think if results were less than stellar than the NO TURN version would not be endorsed or recommended. Thoughts?
 
I've been following this thread for a while and this round shows a lot of promise. It would be sweet if it gains enough traction to warrant a run of brass. Congrats GA on a fine platform.

Interestingly I read an article by Lane Pearce in the August 2013 copy of Shooting Times where he describes his experience with the 6.5 SAUM wildcat he named the ".264 Rocket". I couldn't find a link to the article on the net, but I thought some of you may be interested in his published load data. Looks like most of his testing was based more on traditional hunting bullets. It will be hard pressed to improve on most of your H1000 and 130 VLD loads, but the more data the better. It may give you some ideas on other types of powders that might work, if H1000 can not be had.

All of his data is based on a Lothar-Walther 24" barrel, Rem 7 SAUM brass necked downed, not turned, and CCI 250 primers (except the 120 Swift and 129 Interlock loads, where he doesn't specify what primer he used)

Barnes 120 TSX, RL 22, 61.5 grains, 3407 fps

Berger 120 Target, IMR-7828 ssc, 61.5 grains, 3324 fps

Swift 120 A frame, IMR-7828, 62.5 grains, 3350 fps

Nosler 125 Partition, H1000, 65.5 grains, 3300 fps

Nosler 125 Partition, IMR-7828, 62.5 grains, 3326 fps

Hornady 129 Interlock, IMR-7828 ssc, 62.0 grains, 3243 fps

Barnes 130 TSX flat base, RL 22, 61.0 grains, 3277 fps

Hornady 140 SST, VVN165, 60.0 grains, 3049 fps

Remington 140 CL, IMR 7828, 61.0 grains, 3073

(Note, based on his 100 yard accuracy report, the most accurate was the 125 partition with the H1000. I guess even he found H1000 as the go to powder.)
 
What's the deal with the "no turn" version on the 4S? Will the neck run out end up messing with my repeatable accuracy, or is it not going to make that much difference? I understand the reason for having concentric neck tension but is it really worth the extra brass prep? I would think if results were less than stellar than the NO TURN version would not be endorsed or recommended. Thoughts?

My thoughts for what they are worth. While some view turning necks as an extreme pain in the ass, I look at it like this, added brass life in a time when brass is a impossible to get. Sure it sucks, and sure annealing cases is a pain, but not having brass is worse. In my mind turning necks not only greatly helps run out, but it also uniforms neck tension, which in helps uniform your velocity and pressure, which makes for more consistency. If I was only planning on shooting out to 300 yards and I was only going to shoot 50 rounds a year, then I wouldn't mess with it. But that's not really the case with this rifle, it's so damn much fun to shoot, and properly fed, it's very accurate.
 
Thanks Murnion, has me wondering now if I made a bad decision getting the NO TURN version? I'm sure I will regret asking this but here it goes...Can I still turn brass that is showing considerable runout even though my chamber is no turn (NT)? Sounds stupid to me too I know but basically how much can I trim necks in a NT? Also if and when 6.5SAUM stamped brass is available which chamber spec will be favored? Sounds like an old women worrying but this is a lot of money for me and would like to avoid any BS down the road that's going to cost me more time and money.

Thanks again
 
Leaving in the AM for Wyoming, Tuesday we should be chasing speed goats, 4 of us all shooting 6.5 SAUM 4S. Side bet on the longest kill. Last year was Pat's 1280 with a 338 Lapua. Im guessing this year will be longer!!

the 12th, Pat is guiding me on a Montana Speed Goat, and there will be plenty of coyotes falling here and there as well.

Stay Tuned!!!
 
I've been looking at this thread since my brother mentioned it to me.

Can you use a donor Remington 700 .260 Remington to start with?

What modifications would have to be done?

Thanks!
 
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Leaving in the AM for Wyoming, Tuesday we should be chasing speed goats, 4 of us all shooting 6.5 SAUM 4S. Side bet on the longest kill. Last year was Pat's 1280 with a 338 Lapua. Im guessing this year will be longer!!

the 12th, Pat is guiding me on a Montana Speed Goat, and there will be plenty of coyotes falling here and there as well.

Stay Tuned!!!

Crap, and I'm leaving the 307 today. Have fun!
 
you'd need a new bolt/bolt face, true it up, etc.


Thanks for the information!

I have twin Remington 700 Sendero SF 7mm STWs. Each of them consistently 3 shot group @ 100 yards .25 - .50 MOA and I absolutely love shooting them.

Below are a few pics of them and pics of some groupings.

But I really like this 6.5 4S.
 

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George,
When you work on your brass connection for this caliber will it be for your .296 or .298 neck reamer? Also where can a guy get 100 pieces to get started now?
Sully

.296, brass will be .293 with a bullet seated. Thats the plan anyway.


I've been looking at this thread since my brother mentioned it to me.

Can you use a donor Remington 700 .260 Remington to start with?

What modifications would have to be done?

Thanks!

Action rails opened, ejection clearance cut, bolt face changed. new extractor.
 
The brass is going to be speced for the tighter neck turn reamer.


Just when I think I have this figured out!! So my "NO TURN" reamer spec is not the way to go if commercial brass is going to be based on turn reamer?? I sure would hate to spend a shit ton of money on a rifle only to have ready to go brass sometime next year that won't work. Which reamer spec is the smart way to go regarding the future of this round?
 
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Just when I think I have this figured out!! So my "NO TURN" reamer spec is not the way to go if commercial brass is going to be based on turn reamer?? I sure would hate to spend a shit ton of money on a rifle only to have ready to go brass sometime next year that won't work. Which reamer spec is the smart way to go regarding the future of this round?

Based on the post from George above I would go with .296" neck
Sully
 
Despite being a repeat GAP customer, I cheaped out this time round. Having a 'smithy friend chamber me a 6.5SAUM 4s using the GAP designed reamer from PT&G. My GAP 7WSM is a hammer, but 16lbs. is a bit much for use as a carry in hunting rifle.
Good luck with all your builds, and thanks to Mr. Gardner & crew for making the reamer available for a dude in my position to build a stick on a budget...


BTW, Midsouth had limited stock of Norma 300SAUM brass, if ya wanna neck down from there...
 
Damn KY, why are ya hogging up all the 6.5 goodness?? :D First you go snagging the rifles hot off the lathe from GAP, now your getting all the brass. How's the rest of us supposed to get in on this? LOL