New GAP Extreme Hunter in 6.5 SAUM
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On the one hand, if the Nosler 26 is being marketed solely as the ultimate long range hunting cartridge the barrel life doesn’t really matter if guys aren’t shooting steel and paper all the time. 800 rounds minus setup up and occasional adjustment rounds is still a hell of a lot of animals. However, 95% of hunters don’t and still wouldn’t, take shots on game out to the limits of this hot rod cartridge......so what is the point of the extra recoil and having a rifle thats gonna wear out if you shoot it for fun when the 6.5 GAP would more than get the job done 
The market is gonna be so niche for this calibre I think its gonna fail, target shooters won’t want it, and their aren’t enough ultra extreme bad ass hunters to be bothered with it.
Those are just the thoughts of a poor soul who lives in England now and never gets to go hunting or shooting Its a rich mans game over here, and I am a student.
The market is gonna be so niche for this calibre I think its gonna fail, target shooters won’t want it, and their aren’t enough ultra extreme bad ass hunters to be bothered with it. Those are just the thoughts of a poor soul who lives in England now and never gets to go hunting or shooting
Its a rich mans game over here, and I am a student.
Thanks, and I suppose it will be available on the GAP website once you announce like the 6CM correct?
I would really appreciate any reloading data using Ramshot Magnum powder with 130 bergers. Any success?
FYI, I emailed copper creek asking if 300 SAUM brass is available for purchase unprocessed.
The answer is no.
The answer is no.
Due to the time that it takes to form the brass, they do large runs of brass to have it in stock ready to go for the people wanting to load this cartridge on their own. C4 does a huge service by taking on the task of trimming, neck turning, sizing down for you!
Due to the time that it takes to form the brass, they do large runs of brass to have it in stock ready to go for the people wanting to load this cartridge on their own. C4 does a huge service by taking on the task of trimming, neck turning, sizing down for you!
Thank you for explaining that to me.
I would have copper creek make them for me if I did it again.
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I am getting ready to order a reamer from PTG but I am not sure if I want to get the .296 Nk or the .2962 Nk? Why would I want one over the other. Neck turning does not concern me even though I have never done it. I would just like to know if there is a preference for one over the other?
I'm sure this has been answered before on the 34 page thread so I am sorry in advance.
Thanks,
Thomas
I'm sure this has been answered before on the 34 page thread so I am sorry in advance.
Thanks,
Thomas
I would have copper creek make them for me if I did it again.
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Don't feel bad Bro! I destroyed a few myself before I got it. I turn my necks to .016 and use the .298 reamer so when brass is available I won't have to do all this brass prep.
Darren
But 26 Nosler seems to be slightly shorter than 7mm RUM:
https://twitter.com/Rockymtnx/status/424247633658380289/photo/1
I could be wrong but I think the no turn is .298".
Personally with the Nosler 300 SAUM brass and a no turn chamber I'd go .300". I don't know what the Remington brass thickness is in the neck but if I were to guess the Nolser is a little thicker.
Ahh, looks like I made a mistake on my earlier post. I meant .298nk not .296. But now I get that issue.
So what are the gains you achieve when you go with the neck turning option (.2962nk)? Just more consistent neck tension?
So what are the gains you achieve when you go with the neck turning option (.2962nk)? Just more consistent neck tension?
Sweet. My order is confirmed and my deposit has been placed. Now for the long 6 month count down. Oh boy I'm excited. I do wish the BEAST was out though so I could read some more reviews. I still need to decide on an optic for this gun.
If you size down Norma 300 saum brass to 6.5mm. The unturned neck measures .298 loaded with a 140vld. I neck turn them to .016 and that gives me a .295 loaded neck diameter for the .298 reamer. Seems to me that the .298 will only be a no turn reamer with proper headstamp bass once George has it available. With sized down 300 brass .300-.302 seems about right for a no turn reamer.
Darren
Could be. I was just saying that it looks like the only unturned bass that will have clearance for the .298 reamer would be the proper headstamped brass. George told me that it looks like it's going to be Norma. Based on the neck thickness of the Norma brass I have, a loaded neck will be .2945.-.2948. It could be specked out to be a little thinner for the .296 reamer, I didn't ask. I just sized down some 7mm brass to see how the unturned necks would measure loaded with a vld and this is what I got. I grabbed 3 cases, each of them was selected at random from a bag of several hundred. Seems a little tight for a .298 chamber that's going to be used in the field.
Norma: .2965
Nosler: .2965
Remington: .2965
Darren
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Guys, I would probably go with the reamer that George runs and neck turn your brass. There is a reason why he chose to go that route and I would go with his thinking IMHO.
Guys, I would probably go with the reamer that George runs and neck turn your brass. There is a reason why he chose to go that route and I would go with his thinking IMHO.
I gotta agree with KYS. FWIW, I got curious about bullet concentricity run out on un-turned necks, so I seated 6 with unturned necks and checked them. All of mine with turned necks measure at or under .001 run out. The six I seated with unturned necks ran between .003 and .005. I know it's some extra time and money, but it's worth it to me.
And awesome rifle pictured above. Branden's paint work?
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Guys, I would probably go with the reamer that George runs and neck turn your brass. There is a reason why he chose to go that route and I would go with his thinking IMHO.
+++++^^^^^, by the way I believe George stated the correct HS brass will be for the .2962" reamer either in this thread or the other one "care and feeding". The blue print for success has been given to us so why not follow it?
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Can you get Retumbo or some have had good results with Ramshot Magnum. From the ones you listed I would try R22.
nice looking rig you got, what's your barrel length on that puppy? And is that a Bighorn and surgeon DBM?My version arrived today
Gotta ask, did you use any lube before you sized.
I would have copper creek make them for me if I did it again.
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I just tried out my Whidden 6.5 SAUM dies. Uh, they didn't work so well, .010" sizing on the width of the diameter of the case at the shoulder compared to fired brass. Then for some reason I had to bump the shoulder back .014" to get the bolt to close. I got off the phone with them 15 minutes ago and they said to send them back with some fired cases. Bummer!
The Redding typeS bushing die only sizes .002" of the diameter of the shoulder compared to fired case with a normal .002" bump.
I have know idea if these dies are to match GAP's reamer.
It doesn't sound like it, man. I have a custom die set from Whidden that they made based off my .260 reamer print. They are excellent.
Yeah I agree. They made me a 20x47L die which is a good fit to my reamer. This 6.5 Saum set I ordered from what they had in stock. I'm sure they'll get me fixed up.
FWIW 7mm SAUM brass in stock...
Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box
Pricey.
Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box
Pricey.
25 nosler 7saum $66 + Larry's pony express snail mail shipping $13.68 = $3.19 each
Not ever going to be that desperate
Not ever going to be that desperate
Wind and bad weather lately... shut work down.
Got another 50 rounds all prepped 200 rounds will last this barrel.
Got another 50 rounds all prepped
200 rounds will last this barrel.
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