First 7mm? I would definitely just go 7mm PRC or 7mm RemMag. Easy button. Plus, I don't see this new cartridge sticking around long. It will be the 2025 6.8 Western...
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Not necessarily, it could also mean that normal brass case pressure signs don’t exist in these new cases so using flat primers and bolt lift as a way to tell max pressure doesn’t work. So the process that guys typically use to work up a load, starting low and moving up till you see pressure signs, could destroy your gun if no pressure signs are present before pressures get dangerously high.
As a result the process of developing a load is different, I’m sure we will get more info on it soon.
It's neat, I guess, but there's plenty of guys that fuck up the standard reloading process. The "follow strict lab process to reload" is gonna be interesting. And as another poster mentioned, then you are this close to a proof load, it don't take much to have a real bad day. And while the case may hold that 80k+psi, when does lug setback lug recess damage and bolt face thrust come into play? This reminds me of when the 6creed came out and guys were saying barrel life of 3k+rds, uses less powder than 243 and goes faster than 243.....we all saw how that played out. There are very few free lunches, pressure+velocity=increased wear.
Most of those guys aren't paying $3800 for a rifle. Hell, they're probably under $2k for the whole setup and the 2 boxes of ammo that will last them 10 years.
^ Bingo...
Dudes that gravitate to Ron Spomer also have to swing by the "sporting goods" counter at their local Wal-Mart to salivate at the display of Savage Axis and Mossberg Patriot rifles.
Then they go buy a tin of Crossman .177 pellets and bitch about how the price has increased $0.45 since 2018...
Chamber this in available high performance magnum cartridges, plus the standard variety short magnum/creedmoors and sell 100000% more rifles VS the 7mm brokeback
I think that's the secret. They likely have only tooled up to build a few hundred a quarter. When they don't sell they'll blame the ammo and drop it, if they do sell they'll expand the line.
If they wanted to sell rifles, at least make them marketable, chamber the rifle with something relevant to test the waters, at least give it a chance. This is destined to fail with this chambering.
A guy can build a rifle for this price with similar/same components for the same price, get whatever cartridge he wants, and have the confidence a quality smith put it together who specializes in bolt guns. Not some ar15 gun plummer from geissle. Hell they might not even do the work, could all be contract 3rd party. Looks cool tho! That manners LRH can make a fn areo solus look big pimpin'!!!
Better shooting through chemistry.
A fixed amount of work happens when a fixed mass is accelerated to a fixed velocity. On a pressure to time plot, it is the area under the curve. The shape of that curve is important.
The magic sauce is in achieving the pressure quickly, sustaining it as the bullet accelerates down the barrel, and completing the burn while the bullet is still in the barrel.
I have memory of a range on hwy 225 in Pasadena or Deer Park when I was younger. I had gone there some with my father and last time was probably 50 years ago. I would swear it was an Olin refinery/processing plant of some sort there, and the range was out front. I don't know what product they made there. But the range did have Winchester ammo.
If there is not a reliable domestic supply of innovative and appropriate propellants for shooting, anything good is only by luck.
edit: I meant to post this in the other larger thread, so, I duped it there.
A fixed amount of work happens when a fixed mass is accelerated to a fixed velocity. On a pressure to time plot, it is the area under the curve. The shape of that curve is important.
The magic sauce is in achieving the pressure quickly, sustaining it as the bullet accelerates down the barrel, and completing the burn while the bullet is still in the barrel.
I have memory of a range on hwy 225 in Pasadena or Deer Park when I was younger. I had gone there some with my father and last time was probably 50 years ago. I would swear it was an Olin refinery/processing plant of some sort there, and the range was out front. I don't know what product they made there. But the range did have Winchester ammo.
If there is not a reliable domestic supply of innovative and appropriate propellants for shooting, anything good is only by luck.
edit: I meant to post this in the other larger thread, so, I duped it there.
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