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Rifle Scopes New IOR 3.5-18x50

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That reticle pic is exactly what I'm looking for!

Thanks a bunch!

Just waiting for my piggy bank to get full now...
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Just curious what power was that on?
 
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18x in scope pic. Took several other pics of a transformer at 720yds but was too fuzzy. Camera wanted to focus on a bush in the forgroud and reticlue washed out in pic.

And Thanks to Scott at Liberty Optics

Dont forget my Butler caps HE HE HE
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Okiecop, couple of questions for you. You say that after zeroing you now have 14mils of up adjustment available to you... does this mean it took 5mils to get a zero? Sounds a bit extreme. What base are you running? Also, what do you mean by 'secondary impact knob' and how do they work? Can you post a picture of the parallax adjustment knob? Which rings are those? Med?
 
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Yes 14 Mils left of elevation. I was hoping for more but it is what it is. 20MOA Surgeon base on RSR action.

14mils will easily get me out to 1000yds with this rifle. That is 50moa of dial elevation, plus 15 mil of hold over in the reticule. (About 10mil viewable at 18x) My load Chronographs at 2830fps with a 168gr A-max (yes it is a fast barrel) according to my calculations I should need about 35in or 9mils of elevation to get there.

Of course let’s get real, a 308 is really an effective 800 yard rifle. If I really want to go the distance I will grab my 7mm WSM. Yes the 308 can and will shoot out to the one thou mark all day, but….. It just gives us gun guys a good reason to purchase another rifle for the appropriate scenario.

I think this scope will be the perfect fit for a 308 rifle. I guess if I absolutely needed the extra elevation I would be forced to use a 30MOA base. I never see the need for it on this rifle. Plus if I was shooting a faster cartridge with a flatter trajectory I would have more useable elevation by default of the faster cartridge needing less elevation.

The secondary impact knob is basically a second point of zero that can be set at any point on the knob. If you look at the lever or small appendage that sticks out on the elevation and windage knob, it is fully adjustable at any point on the knob. So let’s say I get my zero on my rifle without a suppressor attached. Now with the suppressor attached I can set the secondary zero levers for the can. Another advantage would be at night I can feel with the knob where my zero is and adjust accordingly.

Parallax knob shown in pic. About 1/4-1/3 turn for total adjustment. Hope this helps any questions

Mounted in LOW rings.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Okiecop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hope this helps any questions</div></div>

It does. Thanks for the response.

Anyone know if there would be any issue getting zero with a 30MOA base on this optic? Scott? Anyone? Any advantage to using a 20MOA over a 30MOA base?

Edit: Never mind on the magnification picture. I see now that the extended portion is on around the 8x point so it shouldn't obstruct view of the elevation when shooting at the higher magnifications.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Okiecop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hope this helps any questions</div></div>

It does. Thanks for the response.

Anyone know if there would be any issue getting zero with a 30MOA base on this optic? Scott? Anyone? Any advantage to using a 20MOA over a 30MOA base?

Edit: Never mind on the magnification picture. I see now that the extended portion is on around the 8x point so it shouldn't obstruct view of the elevation when shooting at the higher magnifications.</div></div>

30 MOA base in this case would give you about 2.7 Mils extra elevation from zero.

What caliber and distance are you planing on shooting? This scope mounted on my 7mm WSM would get me out to 1400yds at 13 mils elevation. No hold over required. A 30MOA base would get me out to 1600yds @16.8 mils.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Okiecop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Okiecop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hope this helps any questions</div></div>

It does. Thanks for the response.

Anyone know if there would be any issue getting zero with a 30MOA base on this optic? Scott? Anyone? Any advantage to using a 20MOA over a 30MOA base?

Edit: Never mind on the magnification picture. I see now that the extended portion is on around the 8x point so it shouldn't obstruct view of the elevation when shooting at the higher magnifications.</div></div>

30 MOA base in this case would give you about 2.7 Mils extra elevation from zero.

What caliber and distance are you planing on shooting? This scope mounted on my 7mm WSM would get me out to 1400yds at 13 mils elevation. No hold over required. A 30MOA base would get me out to 1600yds @16.8 mils. </div></div>

It's going on a 24" 6.5 Creedmoor TRG. I need to order up a base too and just want to make sure I go with the right one. I'm pretty sure a 20MOA base will get me out just as far as I ever need to go but don't want to wish I had ordered a 30MOA base down the road. I was leaning towards a 20MOA base and figured it would be more than enough for my needs.
 
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I like the idea of the secondary impact markers.

It would also allow you to shoot 2 completely different types of ammo and still know the zero for both ammo.

Neat idea.
 
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Thanks for all the excellent pics, especially the reticle. They made the inner lines thinner on this reticle than the old 3-18 which should make people happy--being illuminated, of course, they no longer need to be so thick. I'm glad to see they kept the 1 mil thick heavy posts so it should still be very fast to use at 3.5X. It's hard to find fault with that reticle.
 
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Received mine Friday as promised. Thanks Scott
The glass is great and it was easy to sight in. Was able to shoot out to 650 and back to zero with no problems. I agree with the previous post about the zero stop and I also wish the secondary zero could be removed. Thanks Bobby
 
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These new IOR's are driving me crazy. I am finally ready to get one for my sakotrg42 in .338Lapua. which one,3.5x18x50 or 6x24x56? One has less mil adjustment other has less power. Is there a big difference between 18x to 24x? I already have a NEAR 25 moa base installed. Will both get me to 1500M and beyond? Thanks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scarlett_Red</div><div class="ubbcode-body">These new IOR's are driving me crazy. I am finally ready to get one for my sakotrg42 in .338Lapua. which one,3.5x18x50 or 6x24x56? One has less mil adjustment other has less power. Is there a big difference between 18x to 24x? I already have a NEAR 25 moa base installed. Will both get me to 1500M and beyond? Thanks. </div></div>

either should get your 338 to 1500 with a 20 moa base. The 6-24 has a larger obj, so theoretically will have better light cathering capability, but less travel. Its a personal decision. I have a 2nd 6-24 on the way as well as my 1st 18x. These things are TITS!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strictlyRUM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok so I got mine wednesday and have been using it for a couple days now. I am going to run a match tomorrow so I may have more then. For now.....
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First impressions,

Light, compact, clear as hell, nice big easy to use knobs with possitive clics. Things I realy like that I havent been able to find on most scopes in this price range is a power adjusment that didnt move the whole eyepiece. I hate haveing my flip ups acting like a windshield wiper and ALWAYS are in the way one way or another. This scope the eyepieces stays in one place! I will tell you that the zero stop is stupid to get set correctly. Either that or I am just stupid. I have been called that before. Also the new rapid adjust doohicky is not cool. They should have left it out of the design. When the zero stop is set the finger pointer thing is too low and scrapes all the way around the box that the turrets come out of.(sorry for the lack of technical terms I just use the shit) Again I may have missed something in the directions. The reticle also seems pretty coarse all the way powered up. Not Falcon coarse but not USO thin either. I think in this price range it is a very "useable" scope. If you are looking for a purely tactical scope that will run with the USO or Premier this will do it. It functioned flawlessly so far. I did a couple of box tests and ran it out to 1200 back to 535, out to 1000, back to 200, then back to zero and everything seemed to work tits. I will know more the more time I get behind it. So far I like it. Oh and the pic is with a defiance rail, LOW rings and a med palma contour. Fits perfect.

Good:
Very bright, and Clear!(better than my nightforces)
Digital illumination!
Compact
Seems to be half the weight of my USO.
Easy to use/get to controls and oversize possitive knobs
Comes with very quality rings with height of your choice

Bad
Should have left the rapid refrence dial on the design table.
Slightly coarse reticle
Complex zero stop. Too many things to set to get correct results. </div></div>

How'd your match go ? Is the scope a keeper,still like it ?
 
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I like what i am hearing about this scope. Do they make that in a second focal plane. I have not used a ffp scope before and this scope would go on a build that i will be receiving from Mike in 6.5x47. I plan on using this up at Tom Sarvers place and also using it to hunt with on some large farms coyote hunting sometimes. Would it work?
 
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Anyone got one of the 3-18x50 on an AR yet? Wondering if it would work with medium rings (.5"). Has anyone measured the Objective bell? I saw that the 6-24x56 actually measured 66mm which is definitely high ring territory.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aubie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone got one of the 3-18x50 on an AR yet? Wondering if it would work with medium rings (.5"). Has anyone measured the Objective bell? I saw that the 6-24x56 actually measured 66mm which is definitely high ring territory. </div></div>

About 59mm, so we are talking it will either be barely touching or you can get a hair between the bell and rail

Scott
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dcskater602</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mmm i want </div></div>

Don't want... get. Scott at Liberty Optics has the best prices w/the best customer service. No brainer. It's a bargain compared to the optics it competes with performance-wise IMO. I was shopping optics that started at a thousand bucks more than this one is and so far I'm happy with my purchase. I need to get it out and stretch it's legs (waiting on a new barrel) but so far initial pre-field test review is a big thumbs up to this new IOR.
 
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bumpin' the thread for a quick question...

Anybody mount one of these on a R700 style action (HTG stock w/ 20moa base)?
I'm curious about enough room for mounting rear ring and getting eye relief and bolt clearance (the issue with the 3-18x42) without need for a base that's extended to the rear.

thanks in advance.
 
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Got my 3.5-18 mounted in a one piece ADM on my POF. Not had a chance to take it past 100yrds, this was a shits and giggles session to run a few hundred assorted rounds through my POF, but I LOVE this scope. I went with this as I wanted an illuminated, FFP, scope with decent glass, mil/mil and a clear simple, reticle. I've 3 other IORs and all have taken a reasonable beating with no ill effect, plus their CS seems to have come along in leaps and bounds of late.

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Whilst I don't have an NSX or similar to compare it to, clarity is excellent, the eyebox is very comfortable throughout the full zoom range and the clicks are tactile and positive.
As soon as I get time I'm going to shamelessly rob Vu's excellent testing methodology and do a more thorough review.

I switched between the IOR and ACOG several times, the ADM 35mm mount showed no perceptable shift in zero.

The POF ran flawlessly, can't wait to get my Shadow XL for it...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I switched between the IOR and ACOG several times, the ADM 35mm mount showed no perceptable shift in zero. </div></div>
I currently have a Trijicon TR24G Accupoint, (1x4x24) I got from Scott at Liberty Optics on a Trijicon mount TR125 made by Bobro Engineering. I really like this optic and mount but would like an optic with much more magnification.

I am considering putting a 3x18x50 on my 556 OBR which has 10 MOA built into a continuous 1-piece upper rail. Since I want to switch between to optics I will need another quick release mount.

<span style="font-weight: bold">How do you like the locking mechcanism in the ADM mount?
Have you noticed any wear and/or burnishing on the upper receiver rail caused by ADM mount?
Which model did you get?</span>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ronas</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="font-weight: bold">How do you like the locking mechcanism in the ADM mount?
Have you noticed any wear and/or burnishing on the upper receiver rail caused by ADM mount?
Which model did you get?</span> </div></div>

The AD mounts are every bit as good as Larue (IMO), but not nearly a expensive. I also prefer the QD levers to the Larue.

Don't worry about the quality of AD mounts; they're very good. I have 2: 1 running a Trijicon 1-4x and another with a Falcon Menace 4-14x. I've a 3rd ready to go for a Bushnell Elite 4200 3-12x44 FFP.

If you want one for an AR, get the AD-Recon-X.
 
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Might want to tell the guy that does the web site, reticle is spelled RETICLE and NOT reticule. (reticule is actually a word, it means a woman's purse). Just a heads up. Seems to be a common spelling mistake on that one.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sniperaviator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Might want to tell the guy that does the web site, reticle is spelled RETICLE and NOT reticule. (reticule is actually a word, it means a woman's purse). Just a heads up. Seems to be a common spelling mistake on that one. </div></div>

Sorry, tried it. Technically he is OK to use

ret·i·cule&#8194; &#8194;/&#712;r&#603;t&#618;&#716;kyul/ Show Spelled
[ret-i-kyool] Show IPA

–noun
1. a small purse or bag, originally of network but later of silk, rayon, etc.
2. Optics . reticle.


Scott
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: feenix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bumpin' the thread for a quick question...

Anybody mount one of these on a R700 style action (HTG stock w/ 20moa base)?
I'm curious about enough room for mounting rear ring and getting eye relief and bolt clearance (the issue with the 3-18x42) without need for a base that's extended to the rear.

thanks in advance. </div></div>

the new scope has 3.6" of eye relief, plus a longer rear tube and ocular housing. Mounting and eye placement are 10x easier to do now.

Scott
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ronas</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<span style="font-weight: bold">How do you like the locking mechcanism in the ADM mount?
Have you noticed any wear and/or burnishing on the upper receiver rail caused by ADM mount?
Which model did you get?</span> </div></div>

the mount is the Recon X.
I have Larue, ADM and Bobro mounts.
The Bobro are my favorite, if Andrew had a 35mm version available, it would be in that.
I like ADM too. Once set, I've never had to adjust the levers when switching optics between rifles. If i want to switch my Larue mounted optics between guns, I sometimes have to tweak the tension on the levers. I find the ADM lever considerably easier to release than the Larue levers and, so far, they have not marked my rails through a good number of change outs...
 
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How did you fit the 3.5-18x50 in the AD-Recon-X?

I have a Recon-X and it was WAY too small to hold this scope (by about 1/10"). I had to go up to the Recon-SW in order to get a proper fit.

The mount you have in the picture looks like the standard Recon as the back ring is centered over the mount rather than being way out on the front edge as per the Recon-X.
 
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Apologies, you are completely correct, it is a Recon, not a Recon X.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How did you fit the 3.5-18x50 in the AD-Recon-X?

I have a Recon-X and it was WAY too small to hold this scope (by about 1/10"). I had to go up to the Recon-SW in order to get a proper fit.

The mount you have in the picture looks like the standard Recon as the back ring is centered over the mount rather than being way out on the front edge as per the Recon-X. </div></div>
 
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I just got one of the3-18x42 gen 4s from Scott. My first IOR to go with some USOs and the first impression is robust build and very good glass. I like the MP8. A pleasure dealing with Scott and the free stuff from Liberty and IOR were great.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Todds69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think I may have found my scope for a .308 build. </div></div>

Truly an excellent scope.

MP-8 reticle is best I've used.

Very high quality.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Believe me guys, I'm no stanger to unfulfilled product hype, but this scope takes the 3-18x42 to the next level! I've got a good vibe about this scope.</div></div>Damn - looks as if I'll have to go to the IWA again this year. Shame,huh!.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dcskater602</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mmm i want </div></div>

Don't want... get. Scott at Liberty Optics has the best prices w/the best customer service. No brainer. It's a bargain compared to the optics it competes with performance-wise IMO. I was shopping optics that started at a thousand bucks more than this one is and so far I'm happy with my purchase. I need to get it out and stretch it's legs (waiting on a new barrel) but so far initial pre-field test review is a big thumbs up to this new IOR. </div></div>

Ha! I'm coming from about a thousand bucks in the other direction. Damn, I wish I had a real job.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aubie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone got one of the 3-18x50 on an AR yet? Wondering if it would work with medium rings (.5"). Has anyone measured the Objective bell? I saw that the 6-24x56 actually measured 66mm which is definitely high ring territory. </div></div>
I just mounted mine with medium rings on my POF P308. Will it work...yes, but you won't be able to get an objective cover on with the little (very little) space between the shade and upper rail. Of course, if you have the 2011 POF with the improved adjustable/removable rails, you will be just fine. I went ahead and replaced the medium rings with the high set just to be safe. As soon as I can find my camera I'll take a few pics.