Just a couple small observations in some recent photos. Looks like a 4-16 style turret on a 7-35 ATACR? Unless I’ve been oblivious, I’ve never seen them before and my guess would be .gov stuff? Thought it was interesting. I like the locking turret of the 4-16 and would be cool to see it available on the 7-35.
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Rifle Scopes New NF Turret?
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Interesting. Just never saw that before. The one photo of the Barrett was pulled from a post they put up about 3 hours ago. The other was taken just recently from Hat Creek and was FDE so thought maybe like most of their stuff, it was gov contract that maybe will make its way to the commercial side. Thanks for the info.
i was not aware of anything new they were making. I did sent this to them, and that is their word
Yup. Saw the same thing when that pic started circulating. So much for only two ever being made… lol.
It’s a mil contract turret only for a very specialized unit. Apparently the Secret Service counter sniper team also has them.
I don’t NEED another turret for my ATACR, I just love the locking turret on my 4-16 and would like to see a similar turret hit the market for the bigger NF scopes.
I'm betting that there is some confusion about which feature was meant for the "only 2 made" comment.
There was a discussion on AR15.com from @USMCSGT0331 about some 4-16s with prototype turrets, and one of those was the ultra-rare one. I've seen the Secret Service turret on multiple rifles.
His photo, top scope:
I wish NF would either pay Leupold for the right to use the 4-16 turret across their ATACR lineup or design their own locking turret. Probably with a method of disabling locking for those who don’t like locking turrets (or maybe offer interchangeable turret styles?).
For those who don’t know, and before I get comments, supposedly Leupold successfully stopped NF from using any more of the locking turrets as they own some patent on that style.
For those who don’t know, and before I get comments, supposedly Leupold successfully stopped NF from using any more of the locking turrets as they own some patent on that style.
What people don't really realize is that NightForce has made hundreds (or more) different scopes in different configurations for militaries/government agencies in countless different countries. I've personally owned at least 2 dozen+ different NightForce Mil-Spec scopes, and that's not even scratching the surface of what they've made in the past 2 decades. The Secret Service spec'd out their NightForce ATACR's the way they wanted them, and that's that. Their specific configuration might not ever be available for sale to the general public, unless they have some overruns or it turns into a model that is highly in demand and fills a major role on the civilian side. The Secret Service scopes are just a single example of the literally countless configurations that they've made for governments around the world.
The two 4-16x NightForce Mil-Spec ATACR scopes in my photo in your post are completely unique. They're both prototypes for the CSASS contract and weren't selected, so there's only these 2 prototypes. I gave the top scope to a very close friend, and he sent it to NightForce because the top piece on the elevation turret wasn't functional. NightForce offered to give him just about any scope they make in trade for that prototype. The guys who are currently working at NightForce have never even seen that type of turret before and they actually didn't even want to work on it, so they just sent it back to my friend (who took it apart and fixed whatever was going on with it).
As for the "only 2 scopes" comment, it's not referring to these 2 scopes. NightForce has produced tons of prototype scopes that are complete one-offs like these 2 scopes. They've also produced 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. number of prototype scopes (whatever they need for a contract submission). The NightForce Mil-Spec NXS 2.5-10x24 on my Mk14 Mod 1 clone is 1 of 6 scopes made in this specific configuration (reticle in these 6 scopes is unique to these scopes) that they sent to Crane NSWC for the Mk14 program:
So, don't get too hung up on seeing a scope configuration that you've never seen from NightForce before. There's literally hundreds of different NightForce prototype and issued scopes that none of us have ever seen. The elevation turret on the Secret Service JAR scopes might be a configuration that's not available to the public. The could have made 2 scopes in a similar, but different configuration as test scopes for the Secret Service, and then the SS told NightForce to make a specific change and that's now the current issued scope. That's exactly what happened with the Stiller Mk13 receivers when they submitted the first 25 receivers to Crane. Changes were made and then you have the production run of issued receivers. The 2 scopes that were previously mentioned are probably just the samples that were submitted (which still doesn't have anything to do with my 2 prototype 4-16x scopes), and then they made these issued scopes with specific changes. The change might not even be external, it could be internal like the reticle. There could be 2 sample scopes submitted with that specific elevation turret, then a change to the reticle and then issued. There would still be the 2 specific sample scopes and there would also be these issued scopes that look just like the 2 sample on the exterior. So, what was said earlier in this thread is correct about only having 2 scopes made, as well as being correct with more scopes being made that look similar to those 2 sample scopes.
I hope that this makes sense, I described things the best I could. I don't know the exact configuration of NightForce scope that the Secret Service is currently using in these photos. I'm just explaining why there would be 2 samples made and how there's countless prototypes/samples/test scopes and countless issued scopes that we never even see or even knew existed until a photo pops up.
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Just curious, beyond turret specs. Are reticle selections limited to commercially available options, or are they customized per bid specs, as well? Any idea what the most commonly used reticles are among the elite groups of sniper teams?
I know that some still use other reticles, but Tremor3 is the most common to my knowledge.
The Tremor8 has been the only mil-only reticle I've known about recently, but there could be more.
Damn too bad they couldn't have added some kind of indicator when to pull the trigger.....
Sorry not trying to derail the thread with political BS, but I had to take the shot.....
Carry on!
Tremor8? Did a brief search and didn’t find any info on that one. You have any reticle pics?
