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On another note, I do not see why this would not be an excellent choice for a 5.56 SPR. Anyone have an opinion on this use? 16 or 18" 5.56 AR set up for precision.
Thanks.
This was my initial interest in the scope was for my spr woaTotally agree, it would be great on a precision AR 223 or 308.
I have 100 extra Elevation knobs on order and will be offering BDC elevation turrets 3rd or 4th qtr 2014
i am with a few of the guys here. you can get much better scopes for $100-150 more. I would choose the viper pst 4-16 over this and save the five hundo.
I can't tell you how many times that has saved me out in the field. Everyone has at one time or another forgot to re-zero, gotten up and moved on. A quick glance down at the top of the turret lets you know it's all good and re-zeroed. I've engraved an arrow on top of the elevation turret on several of my S&B's with a Dremel to help remedy this.
i am with a few of the guys here. you can get much better scopes for $100-150 more. I would choose the viper pst 4-16 over this and save the five hundo.
i am with a few of the guys here. you can get much better scopes for $100-150 more. I would choose the viper pst 4-16 over this and save the five hundo.
You seem to forget, this Bushy is a high end HUNTING scope. Not a LOW end TACTICAL scope like the PST.
So what's the division of features between this and the 3-12x44 bushy in the tactical line which doubles the price?
So what's the division of features between this and the 3-12x44 bushy in the tactical line which doubles the price?
I wanted to throw something else into this thread as some are obviously unaware of it. Bushnell Tactical/Elite has the best. Yes the "BEST" warranty in the scope business. Their Bullet Proof warranty is this:
For 1 year from purchase if you don't like the scope send it back and with the reason for your dissatisfaction and they will refund the purchase price. After 1 year it has a lifetime warranty on repairs.
What else could you ask for??
George
G.A. Precision
i am with a few of the guys here. you can get much better scopes for $100-150 more. I would choose the viper pst 4-16 over this and save the five hundo.
I've handled this new Bushy Hunter. The PST is not on the same level. I have seen the same 4-16 PST go in for warranty work 4 times before it was fixed. I haven't seen one yet that would make it on a strenuous hunt.
A much better scope for $150? Not going to happen with the Bushnell's features and parts. If you can, prove it!
The only scope that might match it feature wise and glass wise for somewhat of a similar price I imagine is bushnells own ERS which is on a regular basis going to be 200+ more. Then depending on the application you might not want all that weight the ERS provides. If the LRHS hits the ground running which I imagine it does. I think there is a chance we see another variation way down the road.
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Good looking scope George. I like how the zero stop is set-up. It is very easy to set it. Well though out.
Also thanks for the video review and by the way, that phone on your desk is NOT ringing.
HDMR was $850, G2DMR $1250 5mil, G2DMR $1800 10mil driving the price up.
3-12x44FF $700, G2-3-12x44 $1500.
I bought these scopes when every body said they were junk, they were a great scope for a fair price. The price is out of control WHY.
I've looked at the features and it seems to offer a lot I want in a scope, though 1500 is painful. I'd have to be convinced of the new quality of construction before purchase, despite previous experience with Bushnell.
"I'm going to go ahead and "bash " the PST line of scopes here now. I've owned 3-4, own one now, so I am qualified.
The PST line has a lot of good features, including street price point, but they are not great at anything. The glass clarity is not acceptable ,or consistent from scope to scope,throughout the power range of the 4-16 and. 6-24. For casual range use they are OK but I would not recommend a PST for a serious big game hunt."
George, I too have owned a couple of bushys in the past and have been far less than impressed with them, but I want to caveat because of the obvious sensitivities here.
I recognize Bushnell is offering a serious warranty promising to stand behind their product should I not be happy with the quality for any reason, and as quoated above, not all models are the same, -wherein lies my hope and reason for inquiry. Sincerely it is only respect of your statement which makes me even consider buying a bushnell anything again. I know B&L was the high-brand division, but I always considered Bushnell chinese garbage, and obviously ok with what they were doing. Aparently something has changed. I've heard Bushnell was making better stuff now, but with so many others I know to be good, I have not pursued looking at Bushy again.
I've used a couple in the past where everytime I went out I was sighting in again due to the fact that nether would stay where zeroed, -and neither one had decent resolution, which caused me some issues when trying to determine if I was looking at bucks or flat-tops against a brush pile. I actually viewed probably 20 deer for 10 minutes and could not make a shot because of this. I thought it was good enough glass until I put it to that test.
George, I hear you regarding glass quality and clarity, which costs money I know, but how do we compare the construction, as in the gears, repeatability, and durability/resistance to change, to that of NF, Vortex, etc? I was looking at NF for purchase for a hunting scope, and a tactical model but cost had me dragging my feet. How does the construction compare?
So, can you ship OS George?
No George, I didn't skip anything. That's why I asked. I heard the optical clarity answered but not what made the construction of the New Bushnells different from the previously manufactured garbage, and what has changed to sustantiate the price. I hear the competition is now using them. That's great. Maybe this scope will become famous this way and Bushnell will make a lasting change in the way they operate. -But that isn't certain is it?
To be honest, I won't buy. There are a lot of spiteful things I thought to say but the bottom line is if anything went wrong after purchase, regardless of warranty I would feel like an absolute idiot that had to learn the same lesson 3 X times! It would be more than I could take. I hear the warranty but still don't trust it. With quality US manufactures out there like Leupold, which are solid and have always backed thier scopes, (and you know what you're dealing with) though they lack Hendsoldt or Swarovski glass, it would be hard to spend money where I've already been ridiculously burned twice. JMHO.
For those that plan to purchase, best of luck to you. I sincerely hope it works out well for you. And if Bushnell is under new management or ownership (which I have not heard), good luck to Bushnell making quality products people come to trust. I've discovered that is probably the most important feature. Thanks.