I'm honestly not sure what you're saying here.
Are you saying with those gigantic cataract shooter sized turret numbers, indicating exactly where you are at on your turret for both the first and second revolution, that you think you'll still be confused by what your turret is on?
You don't have to do mathz here, just read what it says. If you fuck that up then you should have learned to count past 10 without taking your shoes off..
You want to do 3 turns to get 24 mils of elevation, or do you only want 20 mils of elevation?
I heard from a Vortex insider it will match your purse and heels. As far as tickling your butthole...you will have to talk to the Burris rep for those services.
Not everyone LARPs around carrying 25lb rifles 100m to and from old tires and 2x4 frames, and Razors are basically excluded from use due to their weight. If I'm going to carry all that mass in a scope, it better be a ZCO/TT and have something to show for it. I won't touch most Razors due to this, no matter how inexpensive they become. The 4.5-22 LHT is nice and light, but it has its own set of issues for something like PRS.
But you will state that the illuminated butthole tickling feature will be ready very soon... and 3 years later, no illuminated butthole tickling will be available in any colored scope. We know how Burris do.Haha, butthole tickling is an upgraded service thats only available on our brown scopes...
I'm gonna bet on the latter
What would you know you big bald bastard! LOLI'm gonna bet on the latter
Makes me wonder if the Vortex Golden Eagle or any of the expanded "Eagle" line up will have a MH-6 reticle and be a competitor to the Sightron SVIII 5-40x56.
My follow-up question would be: why? I completely understand that it is done, I'm just left wondering what would lead to that decision unless it's sponsorship or contract-based. There's enough money in those rifles there's no reason they're not topped with different glass, especially if you're going to take the weight hit. Razors hit a good price/performance balance, but the weight is an awful tradeoff for something that's actually going to be carried for miles on end; I'm surprised people aren't optimizing that out. To each their own! Great scopes, just not the tradeoff I'd personally like. Hopefully the new offering trims some oz, then they'd have something. That and different color options.There are plenty of Razors being used on "real world" guns that have to be humped outside of a flat range, and can be seen recently at the Hat Creek sniper competition.
I'm gonna bet on the latter
My follow-up question would be: why? I completely understand that it is done, I'm just left wondering what would lead to that decision unless it's sponsorship or contract-based. There's enough money in those rifles there's no reason they're not topped with different glass, especially if you're going to take the weight hit. Razors hit a good price/performance balance, but the weight is an awful tradeoff for something that's actually going to be carried for miles on end; I'm surprised people aren't optimizing that out. To each their own! Great scopes, just not the tradeoff I'd personally like. Hopefully the new offering trims some oz, then they'd have something. That and different color options.
Hey, maybe it'll lose a pound and be under 2K!
So you must have a few of the AMGs then right with the need to be humping up and down mountains for miles on end? They are a 28.5 ounce Razor. LOL
Most people RARELY (if ever) need to dial 20+ mils of elevation. And if you do, you most likely aren't under a tight time constraint so taking an extra second or two to dial isn't a big deal. In most competition settings when you are under time restrictions, its nice to have 10 mil turrets that have big easy to read numbers since it is uncommon to leave the first revolution anyway. Then you can run the turrets fast and not worry about which tiny tick mark you're actually on. I just wish more companies understood this. Apparently Kahles is listening, since they took the normal K525i and improved it for the DLR model.
My biggest complaint with my ZCO as well. But when I brought it up they didn't seem to agree with me
My biggest complaint with my ZCO as well. But when I brought it up they didn't seem to agree with me
It's more about how they engineer the turrets, nobody complains about Tangent Theta's 15 mil turrets (well I'm sure we can find someone somewhere who does). Best 10 mil turrets I've experienced thus far are the new turrets on the March 5-42 and close behind are the turrets on the March 4.5-28x52, March has really up'd their game from the mushy turrets I had on my early model 3-24's. Minox did the same thing, new turrets are much better than older versions, I wish manufacturers would come out and say "Gen II turrets" or something like that, but instead they just improve on the original design and don't say much, maybe because they don't want to do a lot of turret upgrades from disgruntled customers like me
C'mon now you know that was funny, seriously though I too am waiting on this new Razor.
Do they have a Senior Division? That would be me, haha. I’m right there with you Birddog, bigger numbers help my struggling eyes. Why have a massive turret with tiny numbers (ahem Tangent Theta!!!), ZCO definitely got that one right! The pic of the Razor does not instill confidence with the size of the numbers, if that’s the final design then someone at Vortex really dropped the ball.I get where you guys are coming from. There are some turret designs out there that don't really benefit from 12, 14, or 15mils per turn.
If you look closely at the picture of the turret I posted, you'll see nothing is crammed in there. Thats a fairly large diameter turret, and the .1 hashes are clearly spaced along with large, easy to read numbers. Its right there plain as day, you can tell by looking at it. Some of us geezers with failing eyesight shooting in the senior division are gonna love it
I hope that spec is wrong lol. Though considering the rifle I want to put it on that wouldn't be an issue. I just hope it's sub 40oz. Still eager to see the EBR7D
That was probably also me, I have no idea but they should, ill also accept a 3.3-20.
