New Rifle: Seekins Havak HIT

[pnorris]

I got mine.

I am Prostaff/prototype tester for Seekins and had to wait till the first batch shipped to get mine. So, they are shipping!

Impressed is an understatement !

More pics to come after scope mount shows, it will be here Thurs.

HIT rifle with 24” 6.5 PRC,
18" in .223 (223 will be available soon. this is a prototype for testing)
and 24” 6 GT

with coordinating bolt heads. All barrels threaded 5/8x24 and 8 twist.

This case is as solid as my Pelican too… what a combo and only $360 precut like this.

Got Arca mount, bipod mount and pic rails for accessories as well.

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223 Wylde Please

 

[Sendero_Man]

@pnorris that is what this prototype is

 

[Sendero_Man]

Cant wait to hear a range report. Hope it’s not that good because I went another direction and building an Origin now

it's a seekins. it will shoot my test target is one ragged hole with factory ammo

 

[BigJohn141]

it's a seekins. it will shoot my test target is one ragged hole with factory ammo

I’ve heard a few complaints about Seekins rifles, mostly nitpicking stuff, but never bad accuracy. I’m sure that it will get the job done. When you get time, can you measure barrel size at the crown. Just wondering what kind of contour the light tactical is compared too.

 

[Sendero_Man]

my calipers say .885

 

[BigJohn141]

Awesome. Can’t wait to see some range reports and maybe I’ll catch you at a match sometime to see it in person.

 

[Reload10]

Could you do a test of the quick change barrel? Shoot a group, take it off, reinstall, shoot a group. Then do some impact tests with it and see if poi changes.

 

[Sendero_Man]

@Reload10 I sure will. had that planned already actually. Tracking says scope mount will be here tomorrow

 

[BigJohn141]

Any update? Interested to hear a range report. I might have to pick one up for production class if it’s good.

 

[Tacovrd]

Also looking for reports on the HIT. Having watched a couple of previous videos on the Bravo it sounded like there were some feeding issues with that earlier rifle - hopefully those have been addressed.

If the HIT is everything its supposed to be, I think this will be my first precision bolt action purchase.

Looking forward to hearing your experience with it @Sendero_Man

 

[cas6969]

I've had mine for a few days now, but a combination of waiting of rings, getting it all together, loading some ammo with what I have on hand (Vs what I'd really like to be using) and a general lack of time will probably hold me off a few more weeks before I get to shoot it.

 

[Rizzo]

Now the wait begins… I called Seekins today and they said they’re not putting the Pro model on the website yet but they are taking orders on the phone.

I ordered a HIT Pro today and the customer service was unreal. I ordered in 6cm and ordered a 6.5 PRC Barrel and Mag Bolt head. Estimated lead time is 90-120 days for HIT Pro. Hopefully sooner but it is what it is.

I have two of their Ph2’s in 6.5 PRC and sold a Bravo to fund this one. Seekins are simply the most accurate off the shelf rifle I’ve ever shot.

My plan is to start shooting PRS matches in TX and OK. I’m a complete newbie to PRS but have taken several long range classes and really enjoyed them. Shot my Bravo to 1650 yds but it just appears for a few hundred dollars more than the Bravo, this HIT rifle is in a totally different class.

 

[Rizzo]

I got mine.

I am Prostaff/prototype tester for Seekins and had to wait till the first batch shipped to get mine. So, they are shipping!

Impressed is an understatement !

More pics to come after scope mount shows, it will be here Thurs.

HIT rifle with 24” 6.5 PRC,
18" in .223 (223 will be available soon. this is a prototype for testing)
and 24” 6 GT

with coordinating bolt heads. All barrels threaded 5/8x24 and 8 twist.

This case is as solid as my Pelican too… what a combo and only $360 precut like this.

Got Arca mount, bipod mount and pic rails for accessories as well.

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Did you order the case through Seekins?

 

[Tacovrd]

Now the wait begins… I called Seekins today and they said they’re not putting the Pro model on the website yet but they are taking orders on the phone.

I ordered a HIT Pro today and the customer service was unreal. I ordered in 6cm and ordered a 6.5 PRC Barrel and Mag Bolt head. Estimated lead time is 90-120 days for HIT Pro. Hopefully sooner but it is what it is.

I have two of their Ph2’s in 6.5 PRC and sold a Bravo to fund this one. Seekins are simply the most accurate off the shelf rifle I’ve ever shot.

My plan is to start shooting PRS matches in TX and OK. I’m a complete newbie to PRS but have taken several long range classes and really enjoyed them. Shot my Bravo to 1650 yds but it just appears for a few hundred dollars more than the Bravo, this HIT rifle is in a totally different class.

Did you pay fully up front or is it payment at time of shipping if they are 3-4 months out?

 

[Rizzo]

Did you pay fully up front or is it payment at time of shipping if they are 3-4 months out?

Luckily, Payment at the time of shipment but if by some crazy miracle it shipped next week it’s gotta be paid then.

 

[BigJohn141]

I might be calling it wrong but the lack of reports and the pushed out timeline is kinda worrying. A couple production models are out in the wild now but nobody is talking? Something seems off.

 

[Tacovrd]

I keep looking on YouTube and Google for some updates in the hands of consumers but nothing yet. Impatiently waiting……..

 

[Sendero_Man]

Sorry guys, finally made time today to hit the range !

This Havak HIT flat out shoots … what else can I say ….

Running Hornady factory 147ELDM Ammo

Zero’d rifle, shot a 5 shot group, spun barrel off just to test for shits and giggles… put back on, shot 2nd 5 round group.

This is NOT a take down rifle. It was made to have the user be able to swap calibers and / or replace a barrel after its shot out.
**Not made to break down and pack in smaller case and reassembled. **


This HIT rifle Frickin flat out shoots gentlemen !

If ya haven’t ordered one… call them!!

 

[Sendero_Man]

@Rizzo yes, ordered case from Seekins

 

[Sendero_Man]

@BigJohn141 here ya go !

 

[cas6969]

Sorry I'm no help. lol Rings showed up today. Got a scope mounted. Hopefully tomorrow I can cobble some ammo together. Unfortunately it won't be more than "make it go bang" loads with whatever applicable powder remnants I have. Then with any luck, this weekend maybe I can make it go bang at least.

 

[Redleg84]

Any idea when the 223 will be available?

 

[BigJohn141]

@BigJohn141 here ya go !

Do you have a total weight with everything mounted up? Looks like it shoots pretty decent. Might pic one up to run on production class or use it for a yote rig on a tripod.

 

[Tacovrd]

Sorry guys, finally made time today to hit the range !

This Havak HIT flat out shoots … what else can I say ….

Running Hornady factory 147ELDM Ammo

Zero’d rifle, shot a 5 shot group, spun barrel off just to test for shits and giggles… put back on, shot 2nd 5 round group.

This is NOT a take down rifle. It was made to have the user be able to swap calibers and / or replace a barrel after its shot out.
**Not made to break down and pack in smaller case and reassembled. **


This HIT rifle Frickin flat out shoots gentlemen !

If ya haven’t ordered one… call them!!

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Awesome!

Just out of curiosity, have you had any experience with the Terminus Zeus Quickchange system and if so can you comment on how the Seekins pinch bolt system compares?

 

[Sendero_Man]

@Tacpvrd Never messed with the Terminus

 

[Sendero_Man]

@BigJohn141 weighs just shy of 16lbs as pictured

 

[BigJohn141]

That’s not bad. I think I would skip the pro model wait and just buy the arca rail with a TT Diamond. That’s just me though

 

[Sendero_Man]

That’s not bad. I think I would skip the pro model wait and just buy the arca rail with a TT Diamond. That’s just me though

have to run in open class if swapped trigger.. . But that isn't an issue !

 

[Tacovrd]

That’s not bad. I think I would skip the pro model wait and just buy the arca rail with a TT Diamond. That’s just me though

As with anything in manufacturing there are dimensional tolerances and QC brackets. There was a good video on the differences in manufacturing tolerances and QC for the SP10 and the SP10M gassers that Seekins makes and essentially for the consumer version maybe 1/10 rifles is QC’d coming off the line while on the LE version every part is QC’d and recorded by batch number etc.

I wonder if the Hit Pro’s will be the regular Hit’s that they’ve actually pulled for QC checks as sort of a value added verifiable record versus the guns just coming off the line.

It is a good point though that as soon as you swap out the trigger you don’t qualify as production anymore.

I’m going to have to check with Seekins to see if they are going to offer flat trigger options or not on the Pro as that would be a personal preference.

 

[Glen Seekins]

Hey guys, I didn’t want to post here until you started seeing some reviews.

QC wise that’s not quite how it works with production. We make 1 action at a time and they all get measured. Gas guns, we make 4 or 8 per pallet and measure one out of that pallet, but they are all identical. 1-10 isn’t a fair statement, but it is for some parts that don’t have tight tolerances.

We are shipping every day. I’ve seen lots of happy customers with groups like scott has

Pro model- timney hit trigger, full length steel arca rail (adds a little more than 1lb) and brake are standard. We have a weight kit and some other goodies in the works so you can get up to 19 lbs pretty easy.

Barrel change system works allot like our cnc fixtures that repete really well for 1000’s of cycles, however… I did not design this gun to be a “take down” rifle that is sighted in when you pull the barrel off and put it on. Some guys even expect different calibers to all be signed in. The barrel system is so you can swap barrels without a gunsmith and get barrels from whoever you want. Print is open source so I’d your favorite gunsmith or barrel maker wants to offer it or build you a barrel you have it.

The action is not the same as the havak in the past, this is very much refined and designed as a chassis rifle not started with a hunting action and put in a cool stock.

Any questions fire away! - Glen

 

[Tacovrd]

Hey guys, I didn’t want to post here until you started seeing some reviews.

QC wise that’s not quite how it works with production. We make 1 action at a time and they all get measured. Gas guns, we make 4 or 8 per pallet and measure one out of that pallet, but they are all identical. 1-10 isn’t a fair statement, but it is for some parts that don’t have tight tolerances.

We are shipping every day. I’ve seen lots of happy customers with groups like scott has

Pro model- timney hit trigger, full length steel arca rail (adds a little more than 1lb) and brake are standard. We have a weight kit and some other goodies in the works so you can get up to 19 lbs pretty easy.

Barrel change system works allot like our cnc fixtures that repete really well for 1000’s of cycles, however… I did not design this gun to be a “take down” rifle that is sighted in when you pull the barrel off and put it on. Some guys even expect different calibers to all be signed in. The barrel system is so you can swap barrels without a gunsmith and get barrels from whoever you want. Print is open source so I’d your favorite gunsmith or barrel maker wants to offer it or build you a barrel you have it.

The action is not the same as the havak in the past, this is very much refined and designed as a chassis rifle not started with a hunting action and put in a cool stock.

Any questions fire away! - Glen

Great response and thank you for the clarifications!

 

[FOHA1]

Hey guys, I didn’t want to post here until you started seeing some reviews.

QC wise that’s not quite how it works with production. We make 1 action at a time and they all get measured. Gas guns, we make 4 or 8 per pallet and measure one out of that pallet, but they are all identical. 1-10 isn’t a fair statement, but it is for some parts that don’t have tight tolerances.

We are shipping every day. I’ve seen lots of happy customers with groups like scott has

Pro model- timney hit trigger, full length steel arca rail (adds a little more than 1lb) and brake are standard. We have a weight kit and some other goodies in the works so you can get up to 19 lbs pretty easy.

Barrel change system works allot like our cnc fixtures that repete really well for 1000’s of cycles, however… I did not design this gun to be a “take down” rifle that is sighted in when you pull the barrel off and put it on. Some guys even expect different calibers to all be signed in. The barrel system is so you can swap barrels without a gunsmith and get barrels from whoever you want. Print is open source so I’d your favorite gunsmith or barrel maker wants to offer it or build you a barrel you have it.

The action is not the same as the havak in the past, this is very much refined and designed as a chassis rifle not started with a hunting action and put in a cool stock.

Any questions fire away! - Glen

I talked to you briefly at SHOT this year and was impressed with how the action ran. Do you have magazine recommendations?

 

[cas6969]

I will now do Seekins Precision a great disservice by posting some "groups".
But first, my long list of excuses!

I haven't fired a rifle in 5 months.
I haven't fired a scoped rifle in almost 6 months.
I haven't shot much at all (for me) the last two years.
I haven't done any of what I would call "precision rifle shooting" in decades.
(And basically just spent over a week sick in bed, yes top of my game!)

So it was a morning of "oh yeah"s. Oh yeah, I need to do this. Oh yeah I need to do that. Oh yeah, I forgot I can't do that. Oh yeah, that's why I stopped using this. Oh yeah, I really should have brought my sandbags, I forgot this rest is not really the best for this. All coming back to me in dribs and drabs, too late.

I was also yanking and crankin', as well as shooting with one eye on the clock. I fired way too many rushed and "eh good enough" pulls of the trigger. Shots are marked "me" where I clearly cranked em off the group and one or two "oopsies".

Everything is new to me. Rifle, scope, cartridge, new dies, virgin brass. Literally the first rounds of 6.5CM I've loaded and fired. (I have a 6CM, but the rifles couldn't be any more different)

Horn. 147 ELD M, Lapua SP brass (both chosen solely because they were available)
IMR 4831 and CCI 400 , both chosen because I had a little and could find data.
Loads were chosen using the "EMMM load calculator" (Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.)
Same for the bullet seating depth, just middle of the road.

The first two groups I had some issues closing the bolt once or twice. I'm writing it off to funky brass caused by setting up the dies. After that there were no issue, bolt throw and closing got smoother and slicker the more I shot.

100yd
First shots with the rifle.
I figured if it'll do this just by my plunking my finger down on a chart, it's gonna shoot okay.

But lots of this, this is ALL me. This load is worth trying again if shot right.

There are others but it's much the same. Me screwing up what should have been decent groups. I have lots to remember when it comes to bench shooting, and having time to take my time is a big thing.

 

[cas6969]

Okay, I'm not going to make this a thread about me learning how to shoot a rifle again, but I wanted to post a couple more targets from today. I tweaked the trigger a smidgen and found my sandbags. The first groups are a little more IMR4831 147ELDM loads, a little higher up the scale. These were shot in a 12mph (gusting to 20 lol) headwind.

"Me" rushing instead of waiting on wind gusts.

Then later, and after the winds died down, I tried a string of loads of AA4064 and some 130gr Norma bullets. They all got progressively better. After this one, the next step opened up, throwing two tight but distinctly separate POI and some pressure signs.

5 shot 100yd Norma 130

The rifle wants to shoot, I just need to remember how.

 

[pineoak]

Glen,

What is the standard trigger?

 

[Sendero_Man]

@pineoak it is the Timney Elite Hunter trigger, factory set at 2.5lbs

 

[blackops1]

Glen,

Hey guys, I didn’t want to post here until you started seeing some reviews.

QC wise that’s not quite how it works with production. We make 1 action at a time and they all get measured. Gas guns, we make 4 or 8 per pallet and measure one out of that pallet, but they are all identical. 1-10 isn’t a fair statement, but it is for some parts that don’t have tight tolerances.

We are shipping every day. I’ve seen lots of happy customers with groups like scott has

Pro model- timney hit trigger, full length steel arca rail (adds a little more than 1lb) and brake are standard. We have a weight kit and some other goodies in the works so you can get up to 19 lbs pretty easy.

Barrel change system works allot like our cnc fixtures that repete really well for 1000’s of cycles, however… I did not design this gun to be a “take down” rifle that is sighted in when you pull the barrel off and put it on. Some guys even expect different calibers to all be signed in. The barrel system is so you can swap barrels without a gunsmith and get barrels from whoever you want. Print is open source so I’d your favorite gunsmith or barrel maker wants to offer it or build you a barrel you have it.

The action is not the same as the havak in the past, this is very much refined and designed as a chassis rifle not started with a hunting action and put in a cool stock.

Any questions fire away! - Glen

Glen, do you have any plans to provide a left hand version of the Havak Hit?

 

[Glen Seekins]

Glen,

Glen, do you have any plans to provide a left hand version of the Havak Hit?

At some point yes we need to do left handed rifles of all configurations. It requires a significant amount of machinery to do so because all of the existing machinery so so backed up.

 

[pineoak]

Glen,

Anytime in the distant future you might do a .223 conversion? Don't need one, but just curious.

 

[Sendero_Man]

@pineoak I have a prototype .223 for the HIT for testing... so it is in the works

 

[verdugo60]

@pineoak I have a prototype .223 for the HIT for testing... so it is in the works

I think ALOT of people will be interested in this, both for the trainer aspect and just to make it a true "do-all" rifle. Certainly seems like easier barrel swaps than my current Zermatt Origin (which I love), requires a barrel vice, wrench, etc.

 

[Sendero_Man]

@verdugo60 I literally just went to my gun room, pulled the 6.5 PRC barrel, swapped out mag bolt head and installed the 6GT barrel and standard bolt head in less then 5 minutes... Now I'm gonna break it in to run at a comp the beginning of April.

 

[verdugo60]

@Sendero_Man, that’s exactly what I mean, very cool bro. I will likely be ordering my HIT soon. (Let me know if @Glen Seekins needs another sponsored shooter!) Im planning to do a 6.5 CM barrel, a 6GT, a 223 Wylde and a 7 SAUM. All possible with the HIT rifle and swappable bolt heads.

Looking forward to a weight kit and carbon pre-fits for adjusting it up and down too. I wonder if it will be sub 12 lbs for NRL Hunter with a CF barrel?

 

[bonesaw00001]

Any more range reports? I'm looking hard at this vs the Sig Cross as a platform to flex for backpacking and PRS shooting with some M-Lok weights

 

[Sendero_Man]

@verdugo60 I doubt it would make light class. But mine still makes heavy class the way it is pictured with 6.5PRC barrel and brake.

 

[pineoak]

I got mine.

I am Prostaff/prototype tester for Seekins and had to wait till the first batch shipped to get mine. So, they are shipping!

Impressed is an understatement !

More pics to come after scope mount shows, it will be here Thurs.

HIT rifle with 24” 6.5 PRC,
18" in .223 (223 will be available soon. this is a prototype for testing)
and 24” 6 GT

with coordinating bolt heads. All barrels threaded 5/8x24 and 8 twist.

This case is as solid as my Pelican too… what a combo and only $360 precut like this.

Got Arca mount, bipod mount and pic rails for accessories as well.

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Who manufactures the case, and is this available as an option with the HIT as a purchase order or something they did for testing guns?

would you please measure how long the hand guard is from the end to the opening of the chamber?

Want to know what the shortest barrel would work that is flush or just past the end of the hand guard for a suppressed .308

 

[Sendero_Man]

Case is available. Call and order it. $350 for the case

anything shorter then 16" and you'll pay a $200 tax stamp ;

 

[Sendero_Man]

not mine... but, wanted to share

review on the HIT

 

[pineoak]

Is it a Storm

Case is available. Call and order it. $350 for the case

anything shorter then 16" and you'll pay a $200 tax stamp ;

Is it a Storm? Any brand label on the case? Thanks

 

[cas6969]

Want to know what the shortest barrel would work that is flush or just past the end of the hand guard...

If you SBR'd it, about 13" flush to the end.

Oh man, I should have made a Youtube video! I could have impressed the hell out of my 23 subscribers!