Update...
S&B Germany were very prompt to respond.. Scope is now on its way to them...
Man, what do Aussie's do to your scopes down there???
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Update...
S&B Germany were very prompt to respond.. Scope is now on its way to them...
Well you'll love this...Man, what do Aussie's do to your scopes down there???
Well you'll love this...
My dealer here in Aus just had another ZCO 5-27 returned from a customer........ a PRS shooter ... it failed during a comp!
In this case i appears it is the erector assembly as per the case of my ZCO failures....it falls into the same serial number range as my scopes..I wish I could publicly say what I've seen customers do to scopes...
Ill stir the pot. Sounds like you just need to get some 7- 35 atacrs down thereWell you'll love this...
My dealer here in Aus just had another ZCO 5-27 returned from a customer........ a PRS shooter ... it failed during a comp!
Had 2 of those.....flawlessIll stir the pot. Sounds like you just need to get some 7- 35 atacrs down there
Yes... i think many are in for a pleasant surprise when they finally look and compare to the other top tier candidates..Looked through the demo optic today, can see why people are raving about it
I was able to pick out thin cellphone cables at 3380 and the diopter wasnt even set up for my eyesYes... i think many are in for a pleasant surprise when they finally look and compare to the other top tier candidates..
Eurooptic quoted me 4653 before taxes. Just email them for a better priceHas the US list price been released for the 6-36x56 with DTII turrets?
Or more precisely, DT II + MTC LT / ST II ZC LT
Getting worse than the LBGTQLMNOP folks!
Looking at EuroOptics, it looks like $5170 - is that correct?
My 6-36x56 has gone back as well. Not exactly blown away by the customer service from one S&B employee in particular. Let’s hope we have them back soon.Update...
S&B Germany were very prompt to respond.. Scope is now on its way to them...
My 6-36x56 has gone back as well. Not exactly blown away by the customer service from one S&B employee in particular. Let’s hope we have them back soon.
What happened? Maybe I should check mine. Shot 50 rounds so far, no issue found yet or maybe I haven't noticed "it" yet.My 6-36x56 has gone back as well. Not exactly blown away by the customer service from one S&B employee in particular. Let’s hope we have them back soon.
What was your issue..My 6-36x56 has gone back as well. Not exactly blown away by the customer service from one S&B employee in particular. Let’s hope we have them back soon.
Had 3 of those fail!!!Should have tried a ZCO
Don't make jokes.....I may go back that way.Guess you need a NF 7-35
Was it parallax / focus related ??My 6-36x56 has gone back as well. Not exactly blown away by the customer service from one S&B employee in particular. Let’s hope we have them back soon.
DT27 elevation wouldn’t lock on zero. MTC were in the wrong position as well - 0.1, 1.1….Was it parallax / focus related ??
If the NF is working why change?I called EO this week and temp canceled my 6-36 order. My NF 7-35 will just have to make do till next winter when hopefully the supply chains are running smooth again.
No hate towards NF tbh. Their coatings just dont work for my eyes. For other people they’re probably fine. Once you get to the top 3-5 its a coinflip anyways.I always chuckle about the negativity towards NF. My 7-35 that sits on top of my AT just works and works. Same with the 5-25 sitting on my AR10.
Sorry to hear about the issues with the new S&Bs. Sometimes there is an infant mortality effect with new products. I am sure it will get sorted out soon and S&B will make it right for the early adopters.
Their coatings seem to work for most the dudes that win the shooting competitions. Just my 2 cents.No hate towards NF tbh. Their coatings just dont work for my eyes. For other people they’re probably fine. Once you get to the top 3-5 its a coinflip anyways.
I didnt say it made them unusable. I simply stated my preference…Their coatings seem to work for most the dudes that win the shooting competitions. Just my 2 cents.
Guess you need an eye exam then.I didnt say it made them unusable. I simply stated my preference…
I have perfect color vision and 20/15 in both eyes. Fuck off, nerd.Guess you need an eye exam then.
They definitely don't tall target test them. It's like a foreign language or something.Man, what do Aussie's do to your scopes down there???
M A R C H. G E N E S I S.How DO you say, "tall target test" in Australian?
pretty damn clear at 2500. Bet its even better in person.6-36 at 2500mtrs yesterday... Performed superbly...
12 shots fired ...9 hits on 20" x 20" plate.. 3 shots "just" off left edge ...wind right to left..
Sir,6-36 at 2500mtrs yesterday... Performed superbly...
12 shots fired ...9 hits on 20" x 20" plate.. 3 shots "just" off left edge ...wind right to left..
Very firm/stiff...which is what i prefer..pretty damn clear at 2500. Bet its even better in person.
Question: Is the parallax knob free or stiff on the 6-36? Didnt get to play around with it much when I looked through it at S&B
I was at the Virginia facility and saw the shelves for RMAs, there were maybe 2-3 optics on there and one of them was for a reticle swap. They'll fix it hopefully by the time the US release rolls aroundI always chuckle about the negativity towards NF. My 7-35 that sits on top of my AT just works and works. Same with the 5-25 sitting on my AR10.
Sorry to hear about the issues with the new S&Bs. Sometimes there is an infant mortality effect with new products. I am sure it will get sorted out soon and S&B will make it right for the early adopters.
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So will these guys ship international? The 6-36 is pretty damn well priced here
its beautifulJust want to share some thoughts after got the scope on hand and took some photos at 10x, 15x, 20x, 25x and 36x magnification under sunny and cloudy conditions.
The building is about 1000meters away, the scope is not 100% horizontal due to I have to lean the rifle with scope on tripod from side towards the window so I can get a better view without having much tree branches in sight.
Diopter is only set roughly, would need to do fine adjustment later. Parallax is set to about 1000, just under the infinity.
Sunny day:
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36x
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Cloudy day:
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Some photos may show a blur part or purple-ish color at the edge, it is caused by the movements while tapping phone screen to take photos or the camera lens focusing point changed.
- The actual image quality is about 10-15% more brighter and sharper than what shows in the photos, like wooferocau mentioned, it is crystal clear from edge to edge.
- No tunneling at all.
- Elevation and Windage turrets are crispy and slightly less stiff as the Tangent Theta 525P.
- Parallax is slightly more stiff than the TT525P's.
- Illumination has on/off for each brightness level.
- It has a longer tube between the elevation tower and the magnification power zoom ring. Not sure if that's because they used to have the illumination turret there.
- The new packaging looks great, comes with Tenebraex flip covers and allen key for turret zeroing.
From my first on-hand impression, I think the 6-36 scope brings Schmidt & Bender back to the high end tactical scope game with Tangent Theta and Zero Compromise, I am sure Ilya or other experts can give more professional review from their knowledge soon.
Hope the info helps.
When were you there? I had a 3-27 there for a reticle swap and a 5-45 for repair a few months back. I bought the 5-45 from @Glassaholic . Something in the elevation turret got gummed up at the NF shoot last year. Jerry told me they went to new parts/design in it.I was at the Virginia facility and saw the shelves for RMAs, there were maybe 2-3 optics on there and one of them was for a reticle swap. They'll fix it hopefully by the time the US release rolls around
2 weeks agoWhen were you there? I had a 3-27 there for a reticle swap and a 5-45 for repair a few months back. I bought the 5-45 from @Glassaholic . Something in the elevation turret got gummed up at the NF shoot last year. Jerry told me they went to new parts/design in it.
Probably somewhere in the middle of that range for the DT2+ turrets. And the MTII at the end of the range@wooferocau What's the weight on those 636s? EO just has a range listed. My t6xi 318 is 35oz for my hunting rig it will go on. I know it would be a lot to have on a hunting rig but if 636 is same weight might just get it instead since a lot of people have great things to say.