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Rifle Scopes New Schmidt & Bender PM2 6-36x56
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That's not really how that works.
It needs to be scaled by AFOV.
This is a good question, so I'll do a short livestream on that in a couple of hours.
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No promise, but we'll try. Might be hard to get the scopes together again.
What I usually do is go to the shooting range, and put the left side to firing lane 1, and see how far to the right I can see at different magnifications. Works for thermals also, and beats all the data the suppliers supply.
Below are two InfiRay thermals (Zoom monocular/scanner at 4x and a Tube TL35SE at 3x) to prove the point. This "data" can easily be compared with other models and brands, (as well as the image quality, which is harder for an analogue scope).
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I'm aware of it, and the "6" is not really marked on the S&B 5-25x, so you have to take an educated guess.
The FOV wasn't really the point, it was the high resolution of the 6-36x from the beginning, where the 5-25x performs more like looking through a roll of toilet paper. Having said that, I used my 5-25 in a competition and it didn't fail me (I did!), as I never use it in the region below 15x anyway.
Yeah, but my audio/video was cutting out a bit so I didn’t catch what was said. Probably was about how you’re a Smooth Operator.Heard I got mentioned.
Schmidt spotted in real world...
wonder what reticle he is using? GRI2D?
wonder what reticle he is using? GRI2D?
6-36x is only available in P5FL or GR2ID. Not sure that S&B in the picture is a 6-36x, can't tell.
it's not it's a 5x25... You can tell by the mag ring
Those old 5-25s have been around for a while in the real world.
Has 2 of the longest recorded kills at least, maybe more, and was used by the Canadians to make the longest confirmed kill in history up to this point.
And the Brits, it was also most likely used by the Australian guys but idk for sure.
It's a frame from a video of JTF2 snipers supporting Iraqi SOF clearing Mosul in 2016-2017.
Optics trade used to also do great videos outdoors looking through the glass, demonstrating reticles and what not, maybe they will start that up again !
The euro-spec model with the wide FOV is a very appealing scope, at least on paper.
In the video they have through scope with the P5FL, I would love to see the same done with the Gr2ID
Anyone else notice a "ping" like sound when dialing through the whole elvation range? I get one "ping" when dialing from the top to the zero stop and one after the first revolution when dialing up. Sounds like a spring is jumping from one position to the other.
I have to say overall I am not too impressed with the scope. Should have gone with a second ZP5 imho.
I have to say overall I am not too impressed with the scope. Should have gone with a second ZP5 imho.
On a more serious note, maybe the noise has something to do with the revolution indicator, but having not used an MT or DTII+ turret yet I can't tell you if that's normal or not.
+1 for the Meaning of Life reference
I happens after the rev indicator is actuated but it might have something to do with it.
I like it! I think the change to the center compared to the P4F is an improvement, especially at high magnification. Granted, this is mounted on a rifle I primarily shoot long range and ELR with, and I was finding the GRID reticle a bit too busy for my needs in this context.
I have except for S&B….wait is that “alpha”? I don’t want to start shit. Am on a simple reticle hunt right now and the P5FL seems to be fitting the bill…..or the JTACYou’ve been through just about every alpha tier manufacturer haven’t you?
Thought you’d already been through all the middle to high end stuff: Vortex, NF, ZCO, TT.. maybe Kahles too?I have except for S&B….wait is that “alpha”? I don’t want to start shit. Am on a simple reticle hunt right now and the P5FL seems to be fitting the bill…..or the JTAC
All those except Kahles, I have never been interested in those. I have never liked the old design on the S&B nor the reticles so that’s why I have never gave them a shot but this new 6-36 checks all the boxes and the DTII+ look really interesting.
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DT II+ has my approval. If you want a locking turret they’re probably the best.
I have realized that I don’t care for locking elevation turrets and I don’t want to pay extra to have my ZCO converted or wait for NLE’to be available and pay extra. That being said the fact that there’s a lever on the S&B that I can just keep on the MTC or non MTC has my attention.
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The beauty of the DT II+ locking mechanism is if you don't want locking you leave it off.
I have a 6-36, DT II+, GRI2D on order. Given FOVgate, and as an Australian living in the UK, this is the first and likely last time I need not envy my American counterparts when it comes to firearms related gear!
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I don’t think they hit the perfect balance of MTC to standard click though. I thought the MTC was only noticeable when going deliberately slowly when I had my sample.
That’s interesting to hear…I personally wish it were a little more subtle. I have to concentrate more than I’d like so I don’t accidentally over-dial when I have a single click past the tactile click.
Still, it's pretty nice having turrets that will lock/MTC/non-MTC all with the throw of a lever.
Best day/night scope turrets out there imo
I just came back from a Schmidt & Bender factory visit.
Had the 6-36 US and EU version side by side on their evaluation bench. And some competitors.
After 5000 kms on the road, and flying away tomorrow, I wish I could tell more, but I guess the difference between the two was less than expected.
Just say you got the Euro one, and no one will know the difference LOL.
Had the 6-36 US and EU version side by side on their evaluation bench. And some competitors.
After 5000 kms on the road, and flying away tomorrow, I wish I could tell more, but I guess the difference between the two was less than expected.
Just say you got the Euro one, and no one will know the difference LOL.
So guys, if you had to choose, S&B 5-25 or S&B 6-36?
I want a different scope on top of my .308 bolt gun
I want a different scope on top of my .308 bolt gun
Reticles blow in the 636 so unless your cool with those, 525s still ain't a bad scope at used money def not new tho.
Have had Razor Gen IIs, ATACRs, now I have a PMII 5-45 in moa CW but I want RAL8000 in mil in CCW. (Rifle is RAL8000). Started reading about the 6-36 a week ago and now I’m down this downward spiral on articles about the 6-36, 5-45, ZCO, and Tangent. If only I could have them all at once to compare.
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