I just purchased a new NF 5.5-22 x50 scope from Euro Optics and this thing is awesome! The glass is crystal clear and the reticle NP-R1 is just amazing! I opted for a plain jane model didn't need zero stop or HS turrets so no bells and whistles, but if anyone is having doubts on NF or this particular model rest assured it's a great piece of glass. I was debating like so many others between the 3.5-15 or the 5.5-22 and after looking through both the 5.5-22 just seemed more suitable for my needs plus if I want lower mag I can just dial down, but at x22 this thing is very clear. I would also like to thank Alex at Euro Optics the guy is just one cool dude. He went above and beyond to make me the customer happy. I will definitely be heading back for any other scope needs I may have.
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Rifle Scopes Nightforce 5.5-22 Awesome!
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Congrats on the new Night Force. They make a great scope! Once you deal with Euro Optics you will go no place else. Alex and the gand are great and they will always take care of you. In todays fast paced world, its nice to know that some people still do things the old fashioned way, they earn your respect with SERVICE! I will be a Euro Optics customer for life....
Congrats on the new Night Force. They make a great scope! Once you deal with Euro Optics you will go no place else. Alex and the gand are great and they will always take care of you. In todays fast paced world, its nice to know that some people still do things the old fashioned way, they earn your respect with SERVICE! I will be a Euro Optics customer for life....
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I have one too. I have a good, usable reticle at both low power and high power that is visible in low light as well. It is a fine reticle that doesn't cover much target at all. Great scope.
If concerned about ranging at low power the tic marks are 4 times more than what they are at max power. Not too difficult to remember, and should work for movers just fine.
I have one too. I have a good, usable reticle at both low power and high power that is visible in low light as well. It is a fine reticle that doesn't cover much target at all. Great scope.
If concerned about ranging at low power the tic marks are 4 times more than what they are at max power. Not too difficult to remember, and should work for movers just fine.
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Bow chicka bow wow!!!
I have the same scope (and a 56 too) coming from Euro Optics. Should be here tomorrow!!!! Christmas comes early!
Bow chicka bow wow!!!
I have the same scope (and a 56 too) coming from Euro Optics. Should be here tomorrow!!!! Christmas comes early!
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I was at Euro Optics today looking at NF 5.5-22x NXS scopes. Those guys were like busy elves in Santas workshop. It was awesome to be able to compare the NP-R1 and MLR in person.
I was at Euro Optics today looking at NF 5.5-22x NXS scopes. Those guys were like busy elves in Santas workshop. It was awesome to be able to compare the NP-R1 and MLR in person.
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They are good glass and solid as a brick.
Once you own one you become fussy
They are good glass and solid as a brick.
Once you own one you become fussy
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are good glass and solid as a brick.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Once you own one you become fussy</span> </div></div>
Ain't that the truth. I got mine with the zero stop and HS turrets. The only thing I wish is that I opted for the 56mm.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are good glass and solid as a brick.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Once you own one you become fussy</span> </div></div>
Ain't that the truth. I got mine with the zero stop and HS turrets. The only thing I wish is that I opted for the 56mm.
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Dont let it get to you, as the difference is only slight.
You might get a bees dick of extra visibility as the suns going down, so unless you do most of your shooting in the dark it aint that big a deal.
Dont let it get to you, as the difference is only slight.
You might get a bees dick of extra visibility as the suns going down, so unless you do most of your shooting in the dark it aint that big a deal.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dont let it get to you, as the difference is only slight.
You might get a<span style="color: #FF0000"> bees dick</span> of extra visibility as the suns going down, so unless you do most of your shooting in the dark it aint that big a deal. </div></div>
First time I have heard that one!
Not going to sweat it but when I get my next one it will be 56mm MLR/mil.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dont let it get to you, as the difference is only slight.
You might get a<span style="color: #FF0000"> bees dick</span> of extra visibility as the suns going down, so unless you do most of your shooting in the dark it aint that big a deal. </div></div>
First time I have heard that one!
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awesome congrats on the purchase, just picked mine up and mounted yesterday. couldnt be anymore please with my purchase
awesome congrats on the purchase, just picked mine up and mounted yesterday. couldnt be anymore please with my purchase
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: broke_again</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ain't that the truth. I got mine with the zero stop and HS turrets. The only thing I wish is that I opted for the 56mm. </div></div>
I wouldn't sweat it. I have heard the 56 gives you 15 minutes more of shoot time at dusk. The 56 also most the time requires higher rings and I personally don't want to mess with a proper cheek weld. It also looks like a telescope for star gazing a little to big for my taste. Congrats on the HS and ZS I just didn't need either while both very cool though!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: broke_again</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ain't that the truth. I got mine with the zero stop and HS turrets. The only thing I wish is that I opted for the 56mm. </div></div>
I wouldn't sweat it. I have heard the 56 gives you 15 minutes more of shoot time at dusk. The 56 also most the time requires higher rings and I personally don't want to mess with a proper cheek weld. It also looks like a telescope for star gazing a little to big for my taste. Congrats on the HS and ZS I just didn't need either while both very cool though!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaroguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: broke_again</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ain't that the truth. I got mine with the zero stop and HS turrets. The only thing I wish is that I opted for the 56mm. </div></div>
I wouldn't sweat it. I have heard the 56 gives you 15 minutes more of shoot time at dusk. The 56 also most the time requires higher rings and I personally don't want to mess with a proper cheek weld. It also looks like a telescope for star gazing a little to big for my taste. Congrats on the HS and ZS I just didn't need either while both very cool though! </div></div>
I agreee the 56mm is more trouble getting the right rings than the extra 15 mlnutes of shooting time at dusk is worth.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaroguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: broke_again</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ain't that the truth. I got mine with the zero stop and HS turrets. The only thing I wish is that I opted for the 56mm. </div></div>
I wouldn't sweat it. I have heard the 56 gives you 15 minutes more of shoot time at dusk. The 56 also most the time requires higher rings and I personally don't want to mess with a proper cheek weld. It also looks like a telescope for star gazing a little to big for my taste. Congrats on the HS and ZS I just didn't need either while both very cool though! </div></div>
I agreee the 56mm is more trouble getting the right rings than the extra 15 mlnutes of shooting time at dusk is worth.
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How much you pay for the scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaroguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just purchased a new NF 5.5-22 x50 scope from Euro Optics and this thing is awesome! The glass is crystal clear and the reticle NP-R1 is just amazing! I opted for a plain jane model didn't need zero stop or HS turrets so no bells and whistles, but if anyone is having doubts on NF or this particular model rest assured it's a great piece of glass. I was debating like so many others between the 3.5-15 or the 5.5-22 and after looking through both the 5.5-22 just seemed more suitable for my needs plus if I want lower mag I can just dial down, but at x22 this thing is very clear. I would also like to thank Alex at Euro Optics the guy is just one cool dude. He went above and beyond to make me the customer happy. I will definitely be heading back for any other scope needs I may have. </div></div>
How much you pay for the scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaroguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just purchased a new NF 5.5-22 x50 scope from Euro Optics and this thing is awesome! The glass is crystal clear and the reticle NP-R1 is just amazing! I opted for a plain jane model didn't need zero stop or HS turrets so no bells and whistles, but if anyone is having doubts on NF or this particular model rest assured it's a great piece of glass. I was debating like so many others between the 3.5-15 or the 5.5-22 and after looking through both the 5.5-22 just seemed more suitable for my needs plus if I want lower mag I can just dial down, but at x22 this thing is very clear. I would also like to thank Alex at Euro Optics the guy is just one cool dude. He went above and beyond to make me the customer happy. I will definitely be heading back for any other scope needs I may have. </div></div>
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I got one not too long ago as well... Love the damn thing. Now I want another one.
I got one not too long ago as well... Love the damn thing. Now I want another one.
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They didn't show up today. The Midwest storms they were having slowed them down
They didn't show up today. The Midwest storms they were having slowed them down
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Have the same scope and very happy with it, solid and clicks are accurate.
Have the same scope and very happy with it, solid and clicks are accurate.
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I bought my NXS 5.5-22x50 NP-R2/MOA from a guy here on the hide and man, there's not a day that goes by that I'm not fondling that scope. When mounted on my POF .308, I'm assured that it was $1,648 well spent!
I bought my NXS 5.5-22x50 NP-R2/MOA from a guy here on the hide and man, there's not a day that goes by that I'm not fondling that scope. When mounted on my POF .308, I'm assured that it was $1,648 well spent!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Santo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I agreee the 56mm is more trouble getting the right rings than the extra 15 mlnutes of shooting time at dusk is worth. </div></div>
Man, whatever it is that you are smoking, I'd like to get some. I know I'd be scattered after smoking it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Santo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I agreee the 56mm is more trouble getting the right rings than the extra 15 mlnutes of shooting time at dusk is worth. </div></div>
Man, whatever it is that you are smoking, I'd like to get some. I know I'd be scattered after smoking it.
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Hard to go wrong with a NF. They are great scopes. As for the 50 vs. 56 mm objective, I personally choose to go with the 50. I shoot until "hard dark" sometimes and I just can't see that the 56 is going to give me more than the 50. The amount of light that the 56 draws in over the 50 is small. Also, as mentioned, you will have to use higher rings on the 56. This is fine so long as it does not mess up your check weld, however, all the light gathering ability in the world is useless if you can't maintain good shooting form.
Hard to go wrong with a NF. They are great scopes. As for the 50 vs. 56 mm objective, I personally choose to go with the 50. I shoot until "hard dark" sometimes and I just can't see that the 56 is going to give me more than the 50. The amount of light that the 56 draws in over the 50 is small. Also, as mentioned, you will have to use higher rings on the 56. This is fine so long as it does not mess up your check weld, however, all the light gathering ability in the world is useless if you can't maintain good shooting form.
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56mm 12% more than 50mm. In the case of low light, more is better. With 56mm, you can get either a closer look at the animal or object, with more power for the same amount of light, or, you can get more light with the same amount of power, as compared to a 50mm. The exit pupil is better, with the 56.
Adjustable comb takes care of cheek position.
56mm 12% more than 50mm. In the case of low light, more is better. With 56mm, you can get either a closer look at the animal or object, with more power for the same amount of light, or, you can get more light with the same amount of power, as compared to a 50mm. The exit pupil is better, with the 56.
Adjustable comb takes care of cheek position.
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Congrats on the new scope. I've got the same one.
As far as 50 vs 56. Its so hard to see or tell a difference. It almost boils down to which one you like the look of better. For me, I like the 50 better, lower mounting capability, fits my cheek weld better, but this is just me.
Congrats on the new scope. I've got the same one.
As far as 50 vs 56. Its so hard to see or tell a difference. It almost boils down to which one you like the look of better. For me, I like the 50 better, lower mounting capability, fits my cheek weld better, but this is just me.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">56mm 12% more than 50mm. </div></div>
Actually, more like 25%. Don't forget to square it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">56mm 12% more than 50mm. </div></div>
Actually, more like 25%. Don't forget to square it.
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After getting my first NF my objective turned to getting rid of every thing slowly and buying all NF. I have looked through the more expensive scopes and see no reason to spend more money than what a NF cost.
After getting my first NF my objective turned to getting rid of every thing slowly and buying all NF. I have looked through the more expensive scopes and see no reason to spend more money than what a NF cost.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jon A</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">56mm 12% more than 50mm. </div></div>
Actually, more like 25%. Don't forget to square it. </div></div>
Yep, 25.44% greater area. Not sure how much my eyes could take advantage of. I prefer the 50 to the 56 on NF 5.5x22.
50/2=25 25x25=625 x(22/7)=1,964.29
56/2=28 28x28=784 x(22/7)=2,464.00
2464.00/1964.29 = 1.2544
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jon A</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">56mm 12% more than 50mm. </div></div>
Actually, more like 25%. Don't forget to square it. </div></div>
Yep, 25.44% greater area. Not sure how much my eyes could take advantage of. I prefer the 50 to the 56 on NF 5.5x22.
50/2=25 25x25=625 x(22/7)=1,964.29
56/2=28 28x28=784 x(22/7)=2,464.00
2464.00/1964.29 = 1.2544
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Congrats on a quality optic. What you <span style="font-style: italic">do not</span> want to do is make the mistake of looking through quality glass (NF/PH) when you are only be able to afford a Vortex Viper. I should have <span style="font-style: italic">never</span> done that.
Congrats on a quality optic. What you <span style="font-style: italic">do not</span> want to do is make the mistake of looking through quality glass (NF/PH) when you are only be able to afford a Vortex Viper. I should have <span style="font-style: italic">never</span> done that.
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Welcome to the club , money well spent.
If you are going to do somthing never do it half ass !
Welcome to the club , money well spent.
If you are going to do somthing never do it half ass !
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NF are awesome...i have a 3.5-15x50 and a 5.5-22x26 ... i'm very very happy ... i think are one of best scope ever made for a SWS
NF are awesome...i have a 3.5-15x50 and a 5.5-22x26 ... i'm very very happy ... i think are one of best scope ever made for a SWS
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+1 for everybody. I have the 5.5-22 and 3.5-15 and can't be more satisfied. I too have slowly made my other scopes disappear. They're like a massive set of boobs, you just can't quit touching em.
+1 for everybody. I have the 5.5-22 and 3.5-15 and can't be more satisfied. I too have slowly made my other scopes disappear. They're like a massive set of boobs, you just can't quit touching em.
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I got to touch one today - maybe I can be its daddy soon.
3.5 - 15, NP-R1
I got to touch one today - maybe I can be its daddy soon.
3.5 - 15, NP-R1
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From all the great things I've heard about these, I def have one on the list now!
From all the great things I've heard about these, I def have one on the list now!
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I've ben drinking the cool-aid
1-4 NXS FC-2
2.5-10-32 NXS LV
3.5-15-56 NXS NP-2R
I think thats enough, love my NF's
I've ben drinking the cool-aid
1-4 NXS FC-2
2.5-10-32 NXS LV
3.5-15-56 NXS NP-2R
I think thats enough, love my NF's
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5.5x22-56 on my 5R and the 5.5x22-50 went onto the wifes new 5R. I'm liking the taste of Coolaid.
RT
5.5x22-56 on my 5R and the 5.5x22-50 went onto the wifes new 5R. I'm liking the taste of Coolaid.
RT
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Does that mean the NF low rings are not an option for those with 56mm? (i.e with 20 moa taper on a standard rem 700)?
Does that mean the NF low rings are not an option for those with 56mm? (i.e with 20 moa taper on a standard rem 700)?
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had my NF 12-42X56 for going on 14 years now from back when thay only made the beachrest ones and thay where all made in south australia its never moved even when its taken a few knocks.
now for the funny part its on my 22lr comp rifle only ever take it of 42 power of the raped fire part of a match and then ist only down to 20 power.
had my NF 12-42X56 for going on 14 years now from back when thay only made the beachrest ones and thay where all made in south australia its never moved even when its taken a few knocks.
now for the funny part its on my 22lr comp rifle only ever take it of 42 power of the raped fire part of a match and then ist only down to 20 power.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aussie700P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does that mean the NF low rings are not an option for those with 56mm? (i.e with 20 moa taper on a standard rem 700)? </div></div>
unsure with a standard barrel, running the sps tact heavy barrel with a nxs 5.5x22x56 with nf med ultra lite rings on an atrs 20 moa base and bc covers, lots of clearance
sorry bad picture, will take new one to show actual clearance
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aussie700P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does that mean the NF low rings are not an option for those with 56mm? (i.e with 20 moa taper on a standard rem 700)? </div></div>
unsure with a standard barrel, running the sps tact heavy barrel with a nxs 5.5x22x56 with nf med ultra lite rings on an atrs 20 moa base and bc covers, lots of clearance
sorry bad picture, will take new one to show actual clearance
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dont ever look through it without crackin a smile. after 6 years of shooting a super sniper, going to this......yeH.
dont ever look through it without crackin a smile. after 6 years of shooting a super sniper, going to this......yeH.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: grevo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">had my NF 12-42X56 for going on 14 years now from back when thay only made the beachrest ones and thay where all made in south australia its never moved even when ith.</div></div>
Whaat? They used to be made is Aus? That's random.. isnt' NF a US company?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: grevo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">had my NF 12-42X56 for going on 14 years now from back when thay only made the beachrest ones and thay where all made in south australia its never moved even when ith.</div></div>
Whaat? They used to be made is Aus? That's random.. isnt' NF a US company?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boyder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aussie700P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does that mean the NF low rings are not an option for those with 56mm? (i.e with 20 moa taper on a standard rem 700)? </div></div>
unsure with a standard barrel, running the sps tact heavy barrel with a nxs 5.5x22x56 with nf med ultra lite rings on an atrs 20 moa base and bc covers, lots of clearance
sorry bad picture, will take new one to show actual clearance</div></div>
That's a tidy little shooter there! I love these tactical models..
Thanks for the pic - did well. I ordered some low rings from mike@cstactical as he says low is a-ok
cheers bud
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boyder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aussie700P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does that mean the NF low rings are not an option for those with 56mm? (i.e with 20 moa taper on a standard rem 700)? </div></div>
unsure with a standard barrel, running the sps tact heavy barrel with a nxs 5.5x22x56 with nf med ultra lite rings on an atrs 20 moa base and bc covers, lots of clearance
sorry bad picture, will take new one to show actual clearance</div></div>
That's a tidy little shooter there! I love these tactical models..
Thanks for the pic - did well. I ordered some low rings from mike@cstactical as he says low is a-ok
cheers bud
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: grevo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there an austrailan company there now being made in the USA</div></div>
The Nightforce F1 3.5-15x50 is made in the US, think the rest are made in Japan.
Petty they dont remember where the company started when deciding on prices for their scopes here in Australia.lol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: grevo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there an austrailan company there now being made in the USA</div></div>
The Nightforce F1 3.5-15x50 is made in the US, think the rest are made in Japan.
Petty they dont remember where the company started when deciding on prices for their scopes here in Australia.lol
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pete86</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: grevo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there an austrailan company there now being made in the USA</div></div>
The Nightforce F1 3.5-15x50 is made in the US, think the rest are made in Japan.
Petty they dont remember where the company started when deciding on prices for their scopes here in Australia.lol </div></div>
the glass and parallax are Japanese, the rest is made and assembled in Orofino, Idaho.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pete86</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: grevo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there an austrailan company there now being made in the USA</div></div>
The Nightforce F1 3.5-15x50 is made in the US, think the rest are made in Japan.
Petty they dont remember where the company started when deciding on prices for their scopes here in Australia.lol </div></div>
the glass and parallax are Japanese, the rest is made and assembled in Orofino, Idaho.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Petty they dont remember where the company started when deciding on prices for their scopes here in Australia.lol </div></div>
dam right - but I guess without those prices we wouldn't even have firearm shops.. they wouldnt make nearly as much as they used to since Johnny Howard outlawed semi-autos.
*thread irrelevance apology*
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Petty they dont remember where the company started when deciding on prices for their scopes here in Australia.lol </div></div>
dam right - but I guess without those prices we wouldn't even have firearm shops.. they wouldnt make nearly as much as they used to since Johnny Howard outlawed semi-autos.
*thread irrelevance apology*
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