Im looking to purchase one of these two scopes for long range hunting and want to make the right choice. after lots of research i have found alot of good reviews on the nightforce but not much on the valdada. the valdada is very impressive with 7x zoom, 40mm tube, and 80 MOA of adjustment. what are your thoughts? any suggestions will be helpful in my choice.
Rifle Scopes nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
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Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the valdada is very impressive with 7x zoom, 40mm tube, and 80 MOA of adjustment.</div></div>What is impressive about that?
There's no contest between those two scopes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the valdada is very impressive with 7x zoom, 40mm tube, and 80 MOA of adjustment.</div></div>What is impressive about that?
There's no contest between those two scopes.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
thanks for the quick reply. yea I'm leanin towards the nightforce. what are your thoughts on the valdada? a few local benchrest guys use the valdada for hunting also and they tell me I will be happier with the valdada in low light hunting conditions. what do you think??
thanks for the quick reply. yea I'm leanin towards the nightforce. what are your thoughts on the valdada? a few local benchrest guys use the valdada for hunting also and they tell me I will be happier with the valdada in low light hunting conditions. what do you think??
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the valdada is very impressive with 7x zoom, 40mm tube, and 80 MOA of adjustment.</div></div>What is impressive about that?
There's no contest between those two scopes. </div></div>
well i mean features wise i find the range of zoom power good for many situations. and the 40mm tube should work well at collecting light.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the valdada is very impressive with 7x zoom, 40mm tube, and 80 MOA of adjustment.</div></div>What is impressive about that?
There's no contest between those two scopes. </div></div>
well i mean features wise i find the range of zoom power good for many situations. and the 40mm tube should work well at collecting light.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
IOR has great glass but that's only a part of the equation. NF is a better tactical scope overall!
IOR has great glass but that's only a part of the equation. NF is a better tactical scope overall!
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
I prefer IOR over Nightforce.
I have not used that particular IOR but i do own a 3.5-18 and have used a 6-24x56 and looked through a number of others. I purchased my IOR after doing a side by side by side of the two IORs i mentioned above, the NF you are looking at and a SB(forget which one though).
I prefer IOR over Nightforce.
I have not used that particular IOR but i do own a 3.5-18 and have used a 6-24x56 and looked through a number of others. I purchased my IOR after doing a side by side by side of the two IORs i mentioned above, the NF you are looking at and a SB(forget which one though).
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
First of all, zoom range can be a tourist trap.
Second, a 40mm tube is a disadvantage in so many ways.
Third, the tube doesn't collect light.
A 40mm tube that has only 80 MOA internal, huh? Let's think about that....
First of all, zoom range can be a tourist trap.
Second, a 40mm tube is a disadvantage in so many ways.
Third, the tube doesn't collect light.
A 40mm tube that has only 80 MOA internal, huh? Let's think about that....
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the valdada is very impressive with 7x zoom, 40mm tube, and 80 MOA of adjustment.</div></div>What is impressive about that?
There's no contest between those two scopes. </div></div>
well i mean features wise i find the range of zoom power good for many situations. and the 40mm tube should work well at collecting light. </div></div>
Scopes don't collect light; they transmit.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the valdada is very impressive with 7x zoom, 40mm tube, and 80 MOA of adjustment.</div></div>What is impressive about that?
There's no contest between those two scopes. </div></div>
well i mean features wise i find the range of zoom power good for many situations. and the 40mm tube should work well at collecting light. </div></div>
Scopes don't collect light; they transmit.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
I currently use a swarovski z6i 2.5-15x56 and its great for normal hunting 100-300 yards. but i want to start long range hunting using a tactical scope. im spoiled to the swarovski glass. how will the nightforce compare??
I currently use a swarovski z6i 2.5-15x56 and its great for normal hunting 100-300 yards. but i want to start long range hunting using a tactical scope. im spoiled to the swarovski glass. how will the nightforce compare??
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why does it matter what reticle you use for hunting? </div></div>
not sure thats why i ask. just wondering if certain styles are better in hunting applications.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why does it matter what reticle you use for hunting? </div></div>
not sure thats why i ask. just wondering if certain styles are better in hunting applications.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
Although i see you are leaning towards Nightforce, the HR5 reticle by IOR has a nice ranging scale at the bottom which might be helpful to you. You can see it about 2/3 down the page page.
http://www.valdada.com/reticules.aspx
Although i see you are leaning towards Nightforce, the HR5 reticle by IOR has a nice ranging scale at the bottom which might be helpful to you. You can see it about 2/3 down the page page.
http://www.valdada.com/reticules.aspx
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CrazyDonkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the HR5 reticle by IOR has a nice ranging scale at the bottom which might be helpful to you.</div></div>Most MIL and MOA reticles I have seen have ranging scales built-in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CrazyDonkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the HR5 reticle by IOR has a nice ranging scale at the bottom which might be helpful to you.</div></div>Most MIL and MOA reticles I have seen have ranging scales built-in.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
Get a NF with matching turrets. MLR reticle will Mill turrets or a NP-R1 with 1/4 MOA turrets. Can't really go wrong either way. Good luck.
Get a NF with matching turrets. MLR reticle will Mill turrets or a NP-R1 with 1/4 MOA turrets. Can't really go wrong either way. Good luck.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
I bought an IOR 4-28. I clicked on 36 moa and the reticle moved 43 inches. How does a $2500 scope leave the factory like that?
Maybe they didnt have time to do that simple test. Fool me once...March arrives Friday.
I bought an IOR 4-28. I clicked on 36 moa and the reticle moved 43 inches. How does a $2500 scope leave the factory like that?
Maybe they didnt have time to do that simple test. Fool me once...March arrives Friday.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
i hunt a nightforce 5.5-22x56 npr2 high speed zero stop, i shot my 8pt at 6:30pm this season. thats the only way to go
i hunt a nightforce 5.5-22x56 npr2 high speed zero stop, i shot my 8pt at 6:30pm this season. thats the only way to go
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I currently use a swarovski z6i 2.5-15x56 and its great for normal hunting 100-300 yards. but i want to start long range hunting using a tactical scope. im spoiled to the swarovski glass. how will the nightforce compare?? </div></div>
I hunt with the same scope that you have. Your Swarovski has better glass than the scope you are looking at. Also for long range hunting 15 power is plenty, but if you want more why not look at a Z6 3-18. with the choice's you have I would go with the NightForce. I just bought one from Sport optics and it is a very nice scope. Also great people to deal with.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I currently use a swarovski z6i 2.5-15x56 and its great for normal hunting 100-300 yards. but i want to start long range hunting using a tactical scope. im spoiled to the swarovski glass. how will the nightforce compare?? </div></div>
I hunt with the same scope that you have. Your Swarovski has better glass than the scope you are looking at. Also for long range hunting 15 power is plenty, but if you want more why not look at a Z6 3-18. with the choice's you have I would go with the NightForce. I just bought one from Sport optics and it is a very nice scope. Also great people to deal with.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
If this scope is for hunting, do you NEED a ranging reticle? I'm just asking because some people hunt the same place or places all of the time and have a good feel for distances on their stomping grounds. If this is you, the NP1 reticle is really nice. It's simple and the view through the scope is really uncluttered. One of my Nightforces has this reticle and I just seem to hang onto it. It's really simple and pretty fast on target.
If you don't need a ranging reticle (maybe you use a range finder), consider the NP1.
If this scope is for hunting, do you NEED a ranging reticle? I'm just asking because some people hunt the same place or places all of the time and have a good feel for distances on their stomping grounds. If this is you, the NP1 reticle is really nice. It's simple and the view through the scope is really uncluttered. One of my Nightforces has this reticle and I just seem to hang onto it. It's really simple and pretty fast on target.
If you don't need a ranging reticle (maybe you use a range finder), consider the NP1.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
Of those two the NF is much better. However you ought to say what you are hunting, how far away it is and whether or not this will be a target rifle that you hunt with or a hunting rifle you occasionally take to the range if you know what I mean.
edit: not saying there aren't IOR scopes that will do what you want, just that the 4-28 is NOT the model you want. At all. 2.5-10ffp, 3.5-18x50ffp, 6-24x50ffp are the only ones I'd look at and I would only get them from Libertyoptics.com
Of those two the NF is much better. However you ought to say what you are hunting, how far away it is and whether or not this will be a target rifle that you hunt with or a hunting rifle you occasionally take to the range if you know what I mean.
edit: not saying there aren't IOR scopes that will do what you want, just that the 4-28 is NOT the model you want. At all. 2.5-10ffp, 3.5-18x50ffp, 6-24x50ffp are the only ones I'd look at and I would only get them from Libertyoptics.com
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Turk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IOR has great glass but that's only a part of the equation. NF is a better tactical scope overall! </div></div>
If only he wanted a tactical scope.
I love the hide.
The IOR is streets above the nightforce in features and glass, but it weighs a lot more.
IOR makes brilliant scopes, but the US market has had a very slow uptake on the 40mm tubes. It is pretty heavy!
Weigh up the features and weight and the choice will come to you.
IMHO the nightforce scope you suggest is a better hunting scope, as it is lighter and simpler.
IOR is a more tac orientated scope and you wont need most of the features.
Chris
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Turk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IOR has great glass but that's only a part of the equation. NF is a better tactical scope overall! </div></div>
If only he wanted a tactical scope.
I love the hide.
The IOR is streets above the nightforce in features and glass, but it weighs a lot more.
IOR makes brilliant scopes, but the US market has had a very slow uptake on the 40mm tubes. It is pretty heavy!
Weigh up the features and weight and the choice will come to you.
IMHO the nightforce scope you suggest is a better hunting scope, as it is lighter and simpler.
IOR is a more tac orientated scope and you wont need most of the features.
Chris
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
I think one thing many people forgot is that Rugedness and Durability are actually features... one of the most important ones at that.
And for that reason I would chose a scope with a better rep for being the most likely to be standing after putting up with a lot of crap...
For that reason alone I would chose Nightforce.
I think one thing many people forgot is that Rugedness and Durability are actually features... one of the most important ones at that.
And for that reason I would chose a scope with a better rep for being the most likely to be standing after putting up with a lot of crap...
For that reason alone I would chose Nightforce.
Re: nightforce 5.5-22x56 or IOR valdada 4-28x56
Glass on Swaro is pretty nice. I used my 2.5-15 to shoot a wild boar at 560 yds this year. Right at dusk. Great low light optic, lightweight, and have ballistic turret - which you can get put on your current scope.
I also have March, Nightforce, Zeiss Diavari, Leupold Mark4. All have their pros and cons
Glass on Swaro is pretty nice. I used my 2.5-15 to shoot a wild boar at 560 yds this year. Right at dusk. Great low light optic, lightweight, and have ballistic turret - which you can get put on your current scope.
I also have March, Nightforce, Zeiss Diavari, Leupold Mark4. All have their pros and cons
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