8541 Tactical posted this video of a Nightforce scope being impact tested at SHOT Show 2023.
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That's gotta be the stupidest thing I've ever seen...
You know they make these fancy machines that shake, rattle, roll, and drop scopes for testing. Pretty much every scope manufacturer has them. There's no need to go all gorilla on a barstool to prove your scope is durable just like everyone else's.
Not to mention, just a brilliant bit of marketing.Those fancy machines are nice, but they don’t qc every scope in them.
With this method, EVERY single Nightforce Atacr, NX8, and NXS goes through that test before being sent out the door.
I love both of my ATACRs. Have never failed once. Can't say that about my Khales or my S&BStill the most durable
I see the “best warranty and you’ll need it “ people are coming out the woodwork to hate
This one?I remember a video from a few years ago a guy using a Nightforce to drive a nail.
That used to be a common thing around here. USO winged one all over the range, multiple times. Some dude dragged a S&B PM II behind his quad up and down his gravel driveway. One of our more distinguished former members had his kid throw a VX-3 leupold against a tree a bunch of times. “break-em in!”I remember seeing videos of someone tossing a Nightforce up into the air and having it come down on the ground and then zero verified. Not any different than beating on a hard surface.
Yeah, it’s so stupid, why would anyone want their aiming device built to a standard that is actually verified to hold zero through hard use…That's gotta be the stupidest thing I've ever seen...
You know they make these fancy machines that shake, rattle, roll, and drop scopes for testing. Pretty much every scope manufacturer has them. There's no need to go all gorilla on a barstool to prove your scope is durable just like everyone else's.
That's gotta be the stupidest thing I've ever seen...
You know they make these fancy machines that shake, rattle, roll, and drop scopes for testing. Pretty much every scope manufacturer has them. There's no need to go all gorilla on a barstool to prove your scope is durable just like everyone else's.
Those sources are the best....The March Genesis can do this. Just ask a guy on the internet. He’ll tell you.
That's gotta be the stupidest thing I've ever seen...
You know they make these fancy machines that shake, rattle, roll, and drop scopes for testing. Pretty much every scope manufacturer has them. There's no need to go all gorilla on a barstool to prove your scope is durable just like everyone else's.
I believe NF might do that for only their scopes for the military? Never heard of Vortex gluing anything. But I have no solid/linkable/firsthand knowledge.Is there still the only 2 manufacturers that glue their scope lenses in - NF and Vortex?
I would love to see a independent NF torture test w all the top tier scopes.. some may have better turrets or glass but can they hold up?
Those machines are to simulate g-forces not impacts. According to that logic, drop tests would be stupid and useless too.
Is there still the only 2 manufacturers that glue their scope lenses in - NF and Vortex?
To quote a SME I talked to: “Nightforce epoxies the shit out of their scopes to meet depth ratings for the Navy.”I believe NF might do that for only their scopes for the military? Never heard of Vortex gluing anything. But I have no solid/linkable/firsthand knowledge.
Ha!! Don’t come out against the royals and their gear.I see a few folks were triggered by my post. So allow me to clarify.
This isn't 2010. There are TONS of great optics on the market. The very large majority of them are made with quality components and are quite durable. Some guy clubbin' his scope on a chair talking about how durable it is is like a roadside hotel advertising HBO and free air conditioning. Every hotel has that. So welcome to the party pal, you've reached a point where you are just like everyone else. Or I will concede, most everyone else has reached a point where they are as durable as a Nightforce.
I get it fellas, you like your brand. Have at it, buy it, use it, love it. But the bar is a LOT higher than it used to be. Durability should be a given, no one has that market to themselves. So to hang your advertising hat on that is a poor usage of your bandwidth. They need to find another schtick..
You mustn't be aware of the whole drop test phenomenom over on Rokslide.I see a few folks were triggered by my post. So allow me to clarify.
This isn't 2010. There are TONS of great optics on the market. The very large majority of them are made with quality components and are quite durable. Some guy clubbin' his scope on a chair talking about how durable it is is like a roadside hotel advertising HBO and free air conditioning. Every hotel has that. So welcome to the party pal, you've reached a point where you are just like everyone else. Or I will concede, most everyone else has reached a point where they are as durable as a Nightforce.
I get it fellas, you like your brand. Have at it, buy it, use it, love it. But the bar is a LOT higher than it used to be. Durability should be a given, no one has that market to themselves. So to hang your advertising hat on that is a poor usage of your bandwidth. They need to find another schtick..
This feels a little silly. Durability should be a given. Accurate tracking should be a given. Good glass should be a given, it’s 2023 after all. At what point are manufacturers allowed to market a product? I get that’s it’s the same thing NF has been doing for over a decade, but at least they have a clear marketing strategy.I get it fellas, you like your brand. Have at it, buy it, use it, love it. But the bar is a LOT higher than it used to be. Durability should be a given, no one has that market to themselves. So to hang your advertising hat on that is a poor usage of your bandwidth. They need to find another schtick..
Yeah. It reminds me of this old campaign:I think NF marketing is pretty ingenious, they've been doing stuff like this for years and it works for the intended purpose - to get word out that NF scopes are tough and reliable even in abusive situations. How many other scope mfr's are doing this, they aren't (or if they are I am unaware) and it could be because they don't need to as they have a rigorous "torture" test processes their scopes go through, but few of them market that. Yes, the slip n' slide (aka Rokslide) folks tried to provide their own torture test "drop tests" that were scrutinized here because it's very difficult to make the test repeatable without calibrated equipment and the author had a clear history of bias toward a particular brand. But showing a NF scope that was shot straight through from enemy fire (and it still worked according to the soldier), shooting a NF frozen in an ice block, hammering a spike with the objective and banging the scope in multiple positions on what appears to be a metal plate and showing it is still collimated - well that's pretty darn convincing. Granted, NF could have cherry picked some scope built for just this purpose and similar to Rokslide's test one could argue it's not repeatable, but in the end NF scopes have earned a reputation for durability that is hard to beat; that's not to say that other high end mfr's don't have just as durable scopes but none of them, so far, have been willing to abuse their scopes in marketing presentations. Again, it doesn't mean NF is any more durable than another brand, but they sure come up with clever ways to point attention to their durability.
Shit…. Deersniper hasn’t broke a NF yet…. That’s got to say something right @BurtG ????I would love to see an independent NF torture test w all the top tier scopes.. some may have better turrets or glass but can they hold up?
Don't ask for proof though. Some other guy on the internet will wonder why you haven't got proof that your own personal scope can pass the same test.The March Genesis can do this. Just ask a guy on the internet. He’ll tell you.
I don’t need a technician’s description to tell me there is a huge difference between breaking and holding zero.That's incorrect. I took those pictures as the technicians described to me what those machines do. Between those two devices you can pretty much find the breaking point of any optic on the planet.
I don’t need a technician’s description to tell me there is a huge difference between breaking and holding zero.
Please explain how the mentioned test equipment verifies zero retention. It’s just smoke and mirrors.I wasn't talking about breaking or holding zero. I was talking about functional test equipment that is used by optics manufacturers to make a durable scope. Of which one aspect of many, is holding a zero.
A scope design is beat to death by that equipment long before it goes to production and makes its way to a guy who whacks it on a stool..
If for some reason his stump fails I also have multiple stumps on my property. Hell I’ll even up the anty and submerge them after durability test in my pond. This service will be free, you pay shipping.If anyone here wants to settle the debate once and for all I’m willing to perform a similar test. I shoot NF so I know mine passed. However yours may not! See for yourself
Ship me your chosen optic and I’ll smack it against a maple tree stump multiple times on each side. I’ll ship it back and you let me know if the zero moved.
It’s important I do the testing for everyone to keep the same variables in this test. Same stump, same force, same hits per side etc.
I’ll even drive a big ass spike into a stump if you choose the advanced test package
cats out of the bag now lolShit…. Deersniper hasn’t broke a NF yet…. That’s got to say something right @BurtG ????
Please explain how the mentioned test equipment verifies zero retention. It’s just smoke and mirrors.