Rifle Scopes Non-tree Reticles in PRS

[Blueoval56]

Various forms of tree reticles seem to be very popular these days, and I can understand their merits,

Is there anyone here who prefers a non tree reticle for PRS or general long range practical shooting?

I’m going to upgrading my scope soon and I get 50/50 recommendations on tree vs non-tree reticles, but I think I would prefer the less cluttered look of a non tree. I don’t shoot PRS yet, but I’m going to be shooting my first 2 matches this summer.

 

[patriot07]

I prefer non-tree. I do not shoot PRS, but do shoot long range pretty often.

I am fine with an unobtrusive tree. Some of the grid stuff or super-involved trees (H59, Tremor, etc.) are non-starters for me on reticles.

 

[_Windrider_]

Various forms of tree reticles seem to be very popular these days, and I can understand their merits,

Is there anyone here who prefers a non tree reticle for PRS or general long range practical shooting?

I’m going to upgrading my scope soon and I get 50/50 recommendations on tree vs non-tree reticles, but I think I would prefer the less cluttered look of a non tree. I don’t shoot PRS yet, but I’m going to be shooting my first 2 matches this summer.

There are “tree” reticles that bridge the gap. SKMR3 is one. It bridges the gap between a Horus and a standard mil reticle

 

[just browsing]

I shoot MSR2 and deal with the handful of stages every season where I can’t dial elevation and hold-off for wind. For general long range practice, there is no difference really, unless you just like holding everything off for funsies.

Lots of guys do the same, but with so many options for tree reticles anymore I wouldn’t let it be a hinderance in your search for a scope either.

Pick a scope/reticle combination that works for you, and don’t worry about what some internet chat board guys say about your shit.

 

[hlee]

I primarily dial elevation. Hell, I've even been known to dial wind. Because of that, I have very little use for a tree reticle. But, I have several scopes with trees in them- including the razor on my match rifle. The ERB-2c is not overly cluttered and I've not found it to be a hinderance. I did use it on one stage where I didn't have time to dial between targets, but it is mostly a feature that I have, but have little use for.

Irony being what it is, I have a non tree reticle scope on my hunting rifle and found myself wanting that additional feature last season...

 

[Tara-iti]

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[Blueoval56]

Thanks for the feedback guys, I think I’ll stick with my choice of a non tree reticle. I would like to start training more with dialing elevation and holding wind. The reticle I’m looking at has 0.2 mil hashes on the main cross so I think it will work out well.

And, as much as it’s interesting what the pros use, I’m not too concerned as I might shoot one to three matches per year and mostly for fun and to try to improve my shooting.

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

I've used tress mostly, tried the H59/tremor stuff but honestly after shooting a standard mil dot I believe the best compromise is a Gen2xr. It has enough information to use holds for both elevation and windage but a lot less cluttered.

Going forward I'll be looking at scopes with Gen2xr.

 

[phlegm]

I've enjoyed my NF Mil-C a lot. There have only been two occasions when I would have found a tree useful, so the large majority of the time I don't want for one.

I may try the new Mil-XT for fun, but don't anticipate wanting to switch everything over to that.

 

[_Windrider_]

I've enjoyed my NF Mil-C a lot. There have only been two occasions when I would have found a tree useful, so the large majority of the time I don't want for one.

I may try the new Mil-XT for fun, but don't anticipate wanting to switch everything over to that.

I love the mil-c

 

[Dthomas3523]

PRS series winner uses non tree (h2cmr) if I remember correctly.

Tree reticles are nice to have at times. But unless you don’t dial at all, you’ll find you rarely use them.

I have same optics, with and without tree. If I know a match is known for being short on time or they release the cof and there’s a stage or two that looks like I’ll need it, I run the tree.

Otherwise I run non tree as I prefer the open FOV.

 

[spife7980]

A tree is nice to have and not use as opposed to not having it and possibly needing to use it.

 

[_Windrider_]

PRS series winner uses non tree (h2cmr) if I remember correctly.

Tree reticles are nice to have at times. But unless you don’t dial at all, you’ll find you rarely use them.

I have same optics, with and without tree. If I know a match is known for being short on time or they release the cof and there’s a stage or two that looks like I’ll need it, I run the tree.

Otherwise I run non tree as I prefer the open FOV.

@velayo_0317 you use Kahles with SKMR mostly right?

 

[Dthomas3523]

@velayo_0317 you use Kahles with SKMR mostly right?

Skmr3 I believe.

Matt B. Is h2cmr

 

[arm017]

I personally find tree rets more in the way than any possible help. I think we will see a shift back toward cleaner rets. I am definitely in the camp of needing it simple. Also might have a lot to do with where folks are shooting. I find myself shooting in to more mud than dust- so bullet splash is much less obvious, and sometimes means I have to pick up the faint detail to spot. If I have crap in my way to see these nuances, that shot is lost. I agree that there are some rets that bridge the gap. But even on hold off game stages- you can do plenty of work dialing wind. As stated the golden bullet was won with an h2cmr 2 years in a row.

 

[NoLegs24]

People need to stop worrying about what reticle (tree or not) people use in PRS/ NRL. Find what you like, and actually USE IT before jumping bandwagons... You'll eventually find what works FOR YOU.

The main attraction is .2mils on vertical and horizontal lines.

Guess I've been stuck in the past for over a handful of years with the outdated Gen2XR. It works for me. I could care less if it's not popular or what the "pros" use.

 

[Mormegil87]

I started out using an H59 for my first year or two. Last year I decided to simplify things and went with the NF Mil-C. I don't miss the tree reticle one bit.

YMMV, use what you like.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

The Bushnell G2DMR reticle is very close to perfect.

 

[Darkside-Six]

It all comes down to your ability to read mils accurately. Many shooters do not use tree reticles. One of my favorite reticles is the MsR and I have done fine with it. Go with what you like.

 

[generalzip]

@NoLegs24 is spot on.

Man, the only way you're going to know what you prefer is to actually use both options in a PRS setting and see what works for you. I've found you can make almost anything work. I've shot some of my best matches with a P4F reticle which most here would probably laugh at for PRS use. Was it ideal? No. But getting some matches under my belt helped me realize what it was that I actually was looking for in a reticle. For a guy starting off it isn't going to make or break you whatever way you decide for your first scope.

That said, I personally prefer the more simple reticles like Mil-C, H2CMR and similar options. I like the extra field of view and less clutter for finding targets and spotting misses and impacts.

You'll be better off with a reticle that you learn and practice with than the newest hottest thing out if it isn't what you're used to using.

 

[_Windrider_]

It all comes down to your ability to read mils accurately. Many shooters do not use tree reticles. One of my favorite reticles is the MsR and I have done fine with it. Go with what you like.

Love the MSR too and the MSR2

 

[Stag556]

I shoot a lot of PRS matches. No pro by any stretch but have enough personal experience to know that the tree may be nice but not necessary. I used a Mil C all of last year and throughout 12 national matches, I really could of used a tree 2-3 times. It’s all personal preference but I’m sticking with the Mil C vs moving to their new XT reticle.

 

[Blueoval56]

I shoot a lot of PRS matches. No pro by any stretch but have enough personal experience to know that the tree may be nice but not necessary. I used a Mil C all of last year and throughout 12 national matches, I really could of used a tree 2-3 times. It’s all personal preference but I’m sticking with the Mil C vs moving to their new XT reticle.

This is kind of what I figured, but I’m glad to hear it from guys that actually have the experience.

I’m going to be going with this:

LRD-1P in a Delta Stryker 4.5-30x56

 

[Rob01]

I have shot PRS matches for the past 16 years and used to use reticles without a tree in the lower quadrants when none were really offered other than the Horus, which I tried and did not like, but after starting to use them in the Vortex 2C and 7 and not having to hold out into space for elevation and wind holds I wouldn't go back to a non tree style reticle. There is no reason as you lose nothing with a tree reticle you have with a non tree reticle as you still have the marks on the main crosshairs but gain the advantage of being able to use it for holds when needed or spotting corrections faster.

OP buy what you like but the more you get into it and see the advantage I would bet you end up changing down the road.

 

[BCX]

Hensoldt NH-1