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[pmclaine]

The title of this thread is neither typo, nor confession.

I own three rifles I have named.

Mjolinar - M1 Garand

Gungnir - 1.3 SN 1903

1.4 SN 1903

When I know the end is near, though impractical, I would hope to fight my way to one of these and be surrounded by 30-06 brass.

Instant seat in Valhalla.

 

[M4orturnate]

While I appreciate and enjoy the history the old stuff just don't do it for me.

 

[pmclaine]

This is a pampered rifle….

Accessorized

Heavy checkered BP. This rifle came with one. I’d love to know it’s story. Last one of these BP I bought it was $150. I’m guessing mo money these days.

Drawing numbered CStock

 

[pmclaine]

While I appreciate and enjoy the history the old stuff just don't do it for me.

This thread was not for you.

Go away.

 

[pmclaine]

Battle sights.

547 yards of sighting requiring superior eyesight. The mil never registered the rifle from 30-03 to 30-06 so you get the weird ass sight zero.

Instruction must have been “If they are close aim at their knees. If far, aim at their head!”

USMC invented the #10 sight set to make zero 200 yards.

Target or precision sight.

An onboard targeting computer. It accounts for elevation and even spindrift as the slide offsets left at distance.

We are lazy and dumb.

They made their kestrels out of tool steel and sweat.

 

[pmclaine]

WTF?

25.5 MOA elevation to start….

 

[pmclaine]

Got to get properly attired….

 

[pmclaine]

1. 25.5 - 8 ring low
2. 31.5 - 9 ring 2000
3. 32.5 - 8 ring 2330 WTF?
4. 32 - 9 ring 2100

For shot 5 I did something dangerous. I dialed windage. You need to be able to dial to the millionth of an inch to make this work.

I am that person

5. 32 with CH R - X line

 

[pmclaine]

Shot 13 starting to see some “climb” and right bias.

Intermission

 

[pmclaine]

Came across this rifle in a weird way.

It was in a “For sale” post on Culver’s and getting wet over the description I replied “Man if you were in MA I would be all over this.”

In about 30 seconds he replied he was in Tewksbury MA not 5 miles away.

Straight grain solid ass pre WWII walnut….

Nickel Steel polished bolt

One of the first barrels @Frank Green made…..8/32

 

[pmclaine]

Things are going well when the note on shot 15 is “Too much 10, Can’t see shot”

 

[pmclaine]

Of course I probably just screwed myself by posting that….

 

[pmclaine]

Being USMC queer it kind of bummed me out that the USMC looked down on the C Stock and saw them as trash.

I get wet over pre war C stocks.

@cplnorton has fully sourced that the USMC preferred straight to C.

At least one Marine on Guadalcanal though wasn’t straight…..

 

[pmclaine]

Waiting for line to go cold…..

 

[pmclaine]

On the target board…..

I identified shots 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 10 and 12 as the only ones outside the 10 ring.

Two inch rule for reference because using the longer CM side would be dumb.

I think my zero is the top right cluster.

As the barrel heated it looked to move up/right.

I should probably take out my CH of right windage I added.

Coming down a half MOA May benefit but next time I shoot reflection off the FSP will differ and things will be just as off.

Could have used my “Super Smoker” to dull the FSP.

I’m going now to comment in posts about AI how I don’t like modern guns.

 

[Atomic_Lobster]

Nice Rifle
I have a 1903 mark1
But it is a mixed up monster
Still love though

 

[pmclaine]

As we depart this field of dreams remember……

 

[cornhusker86]

Few men have the balls to walk the walk. Here's to you and your brass ones.

 

[Stevo86]

@pmclaine where can u find those site micrometers at?

 

[pmclaine]

Creedmoor Sports was selling them for awhile.

Theirs was made by SB Sales in Florida after Ray Vin retired and stopped making his copy of the PJ Ohare sight micrometer from the Golden Age.

There may still be reproduced made I haven’t really researched Gun toys lately.

You can still find old originals on Ebay or in the “want to sells” at CMP forum or Culver’s shooting page.

They can be had. Google PJ Ohare sight micrometer. Most are mil marked. Uncle Sam must have bought 100s of thousands of them.

Last I looked originals were $150 - $250.

Guessing like everything they are now more money.

 

[pmclaine]

@Stevo86

This company is good to go.

I bought one of their copies of the Ray Vin Super Smoker.

I think it arrived from Australia in about a week. I was amazed.

Buy the Super Smoker also.

M1903 Springfield Sight Micrometer

WATERS RIFLEMAN 1903 Springfield Rifle Rear Sight Micrometer adjustment measure precise and presicion admstments. PJ O'Hare M1903. Ray-Vin original design.

www.watersrifleman.com

 

[pmclaine]

 

[Stevo86]

@Stevo86

This company is good to go.

I bought one of their copies of the Ray Vin Super Smoker.

I think it arrived from Australia in about a week. I was amazed.

Buy the Super Smoker also.

M1903 Springfield Sight Micrometer

WATERS RIFLEMAN 1903 Springfield Rifle Rear Sight Micrometer adjustment measure precise and presicion admstments. PJ O'Hare M1903. Ray-Vin original design.

www.watersrifleman.com

Thank u sir

 

[cplnorton]

Being USMC queer it kind of bummed me out that the USMC looked down on the C Stock and saw them as trash.

I get wet over pre war C stocks.

@cplnorton has fully sourced that the USMC preferred straight to C.

At least one Marine on Guadalcanal though wasn’t straight…..

Yeah they got a shipment of C stocks for regular service rifles just in time for the Canal. They had received some in small shipments for team rifles, but not for the service rifles to that point. I do have a couple other pics of the C stock on the Canal, but the only reason they took them is they did not have a choice. SA would not make them anymore straight stocks and the Marines were searching for commercial suppliers to make Straight stocks for them and they ran out of time.

The real argument that I see about them is the Marines put a lot of stock into hand to hand combat, and they state the C stock did not give you the same trusting power for a buttstroke or lunge with a bayonet.

Though when you think about it, the Marines had already adopted the M1 in 1941, contrary to lore they didn't choose the M1 till after the Canal. The M1 had basically the same style of pistol grip stock and they never asked about a straight stock for it.

Honestly it was probably just the same thing you always see, people resist change. They had been using straight stocks for over 30 years at that point and they just didn't want to change.

 

[pmclaine]

Yeah they got a shipment of C stocks for regular service rifles just in time for the Canal. They had received some in small shipments for team rifles, but not for the service rifles to that point. I do have a couple other pics of the C stock on the Canal, but the only reason they took them is they did not have a choice. SA would not make them anymore straight stocks and the Marines were searching for commercial suppliers to make Straight stocks for them and they ran out of time.

The real argument that I see about them is the Marines put a lot of stock into hand to hand combat, and they state the C stock did not give you the same trusting power for a buttstroke or lunge with a bayonet.

Though when you think about it, the Marines had already adopted the M1 in 1941, contrary to lore they didn't choose the M1 till after the Canal. The M1 had basically the same style of pistol grip stock and they never asked about a straight stock for it.

Honestly it was probably just the same thing you always see, people resist change. They had been using straight stocks for over 30 years at that point and they just didn't want to change.

Looking at the photo again and zooming appears both 03’s visible have C stocks.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Except for one post… this is one of the most awesome threads I’ve seen in ages!

Great stuff!!!

Sirhr

 

[Mike Casselton]

You do realize, every time I read the thread title it reads: Not Hung...

BTW, that's some fine shooting.

 

[pmclaine]

You do realize, every time I read the thread title it reads: Not Hung...

BTW, that's some fine shooting.

Some people see their problems everywhere they look……..let it go.

Mrs Casselton still loves you.