Ok it’s hard to do load development when you have a chubby because your new barrel excites you so much. I don’t think I have ever had such small 5 shot groups before with any of my other barrels and rifles. But I believe I got an awesome shooting barrel. It’s great when a barrel loves two completely different projectiles with the 55gr V-Max and the 75gr ELD. I has happy to see the 55gr bullets preform well with the suppressor since they will he used on prairie dogs.
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Those of you with a 22" 308 srs a1 barrel with 1/11 twist, what grain bullet are you using? I use 175 smk's in my 16" barrel but I'm not so sure with the 22.
Mine has shot well with 175s. It also does quite well with 168s and even 155s. It doesn't seem to be picky at all.
Anyone have a a1 or a2 srs Chassis they want to sell cheap? Also looking for magnum bolt and 7RM and 300 NM barrel Ideally cheap cash in hand
So speaking of Chubbies. Does anyone have a floppy monopod?
Viagra jokes aside. I really like shooting from my monopod but there’s some slop in it so I see a lateral wobble in it when I have my cheek on the riser. Noticing some horizontal straining because of this.
If so, is there a way to fix this issue?
Viagra jokes aside. I really like shooting from my monopod but there’s some slop in it so I see a lateral wobble in it when I have my cheek on the riser. Noticing some horizontal straining because of this.
If so, is there a way to fix this issue?
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I have HS Percision Take Down with 2 barrels for the last 19yrs. That was the cool switch barrel set up for its day. Thinking of selling it to fund the DTA I bought.
I have one ARC Nucleus action rifle. That's the last custom I'll own. I do love it and shoot it quite a bit. However, I absolutely love the DT platform. The only other bolt rifle I plan to buy is an AXMC. No regrets on my decision to offload customs for DT.
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I have been back and forth between several high end rifles and now on my second SRS A1 platform. It's give and take. It's a little bit of work to go between barrels and record your zeros but after that its pretty breezy. All this said and done I will probably never sell my AIAX as it's the most accurate rifle I have ever shot. My second most accurate rifle would be my Tika Tac A1 in 6.5, now I have a SRS in 6.5 and it's close in accuracy. Mag changes are different and the way SRS's handle are different, sometimes it's a little harder to get behind an SRS but the flexibility and accuracy of the SRS platform makes it all worth while. It's a strange beast but a joy to shoot once you have it configured for your body type and shooting style. I feel that traditional rifles are a little more natural in the way they handle. All this said I may sell my Tika as I don't need an extra 6.5 laying around.
Sako
I have been back and forth between several high end rifles and now on my second SRS A1 platform. It's give and take. It's a little bit of work to go between barrels and record your zeros but after that its pretty breezy. All this said and done I will probably never sell my AIAX as it's the most accurate rifle I have ever shot. My second most accurate rifle would be my Tika Tac A1 in 6.5, now I have a SRS in 6.5 and it's close in accuracy. Mag changes are different and the way SRS's handle are different, sometimes it's a little harder to get behind an SRS but the flexibility and accuracy of the SRS platform makes it all worth while. It's a strange beast but a joy to shoot once you have it configured for your body type and shooting style. I feel that traditional rifles are a little more natural in the way they handle. All this said I may sell my Tika as I don't need an extra 6.5 laying around.
Sako
I have been back and forth between several high end rifles and now on my second SRS A1 platform. It's give and take. It's a little bit of work to go between barrels and record your zeros but after that its pretty breezy. All this said and done I will probably never sell my AIAX as it's the most accurate rifle I have ever shot. My second most accurate rifle would be my Tika Tac A1 in 6.5, now I have a SRS in 6.5 and it's close in accuracy. Mag changes are different and the way SRS's handle are different, sometimes it's a little harder to get behind an SRS but the flexibility and accuracy of the SRS platform makes it all worth while. It's a strange beast but a joy to shoot once you have it configured for your body type and shooting style. I feel that traditional rifles are a little more natural in the way they handle. All this said I may sell my Tika as I don't need an extra 6.5 laying around.
Sako
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The only reason considering sell it is HS Percision is behind the times on innovation of changing barrels. The PRICE to get a new barrel with make you shit yourself.
Fuck hs precision.
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While roaming the floor today at the NRA Annual Meeting, I happened to pass by the H-S Precision booth. They manufacture both precision tac...
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The minimum length of pull for the SRS series of rifles is 14.5" thats for the SRS, Gen2, A1 and A2. I'm 6 feet tall and I only use one of the spacers. That puts it at about 15" for my length of pull. I know other guys my height who like to use both of the spacers but I personally like to be a little close so I can adapt to different shooting positions easier.
Like most shooters getting into long range I started with an off the shelf Remington 700 with a heavy Tac barrel. After getting an aftermarket bolt and trigger with a McRee Precision chassis, back in the day before they started treating to sue their customers, it ended up shooting sub half inch. 0.4 MOA on average with DT .308 win match ammo. After a few training courses and going to work for Desert Tech I switched over to a DT SRS Gen 2 Covert with a .308 win and a 6.5 Creedmoor conversion kits. I was planning on selling my Rem 700 but the barrel was getting close to being shot out. I would have sold it but then I got married and my wife wanted a rifle she could learn on. So I'm going to have it re-barreled. The main reason I have stayed with a Desert Tech, even though I no longer work there, is because of the flexibility of the system. I have my two barrels already and I plan on getting more. Plus with the carbon fiber options and other calibers if I want to adopt another caliber I don't have to sell my whole package. I can just add a barrel to the chassis and go. In the future if a new caliber becomes popular and have better performance I should be able too adopt it very easily with minimal cost.
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Fuck hs precision.
A Company That Doesn't Get It
While roaming the floor today at the NRA Annual Meeting, I happened to pass by the H-S Precision booth. They manufacture both precision tac...
I certainly don't disapprove of that sentiment as HS Precision's actions were completely unacceptable.
Yet, I find it interesting which ones end up getting on peoples veto lists and which ones seem to get a free pass. As over the years most of the companies in the shooting industry have made completely unacceptable mistakes. They happen in different ways at different times, but there are very few that haven't had at least one giant mistake.
After all Desert Tech has certainly had it's share. Tom Irwin of AI tried to sell us out with his own anti-gun comments. Mcree threatening cutomers. Mcmillan vs Terry Cross. Ruag and Target sports vs Prime. IOR/Larue/Rifles only vs Frank. Nightforce flame out while blaming and then leaving SH. The list just keeps going...
Meh hiring Lon hourichi is nuke level. The other stuff is mosty just lovers quarrel level.
ive done two dances so far. First, I sold 3-4 lower end non-customs and their attached mid range glass to get my first SRS. Was a great idea and I became a better shooter who used the same trigger and glass with a system that functioned the same using many chamberings.
More recently, I purchased a 7 Saum chambered Stiller under the idea that I would go west and hunt with a slightly lighter rifle than my SRS. I ended up selling the Stiller rifle and my SRS in the last month and buying an A2 covert. Jury is still out, but I’m hopeful that either a hunter contour or carbon barrel will put me under 10.5 lbs for that journey west.
I’m also enjoying having fewer rifles that stare at me while not being shot. All the ones I had were just depreciating.
finally, to give a short answer to your initial question, the only thing I miss about the Stiller custom is the Trigger Tech Special trigger. That bugger is almost impossible to beat. The action was very smooth, but I’ve become accustomed to the slightly tougher SRS bolt feel and it doesn’t bother me to put a little more thrust into the cycling motion.
Lon Horiuchi, that's terrible... Pretty much murdered her. Rumored as well he F-ed up the Waco Tx incident.
From a technical perspective the SRS is way ahead of anything HS has done.
Only thing I wish is that I had a 22 rimfire barrel for the DT. I’m still in the honeymoon stage but I just can’t afford piles of high end gear. I sold 3 rifles and 4 scopes to get mine. I have 2 barrels and would really like to get a 300 WM hunting profile barrel for the system for hunting.
I have always used a pack for mine on long walks. No prob!
Only time I wished my srs a1 was lighter was for a Idaho hunt , I think it was 14 lb total weight or less to Be legal.
Most of the weight is in the barrel. With the increased cuts in the barrel shank ( thick part that engages the chassis ) the weight has come down a little on the SRS-A2. With the custom Carbon Fiber barrel from Proof Research they are almost as light as the and in some cases even lighter than factory barrels depending on the setup of the custom barrel. The next step is to flute the carbon fiber barrel shanks and see if they can get even lighter. It might only take off a few ounces but ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain. I heard that somewhere from a very angry man wearing a round hat.
the new equipment should have been perfect. No excuse there. That’s on DT.
the used A2 barrel screwed onto a different extension is bull crap. Somebody hosed you, but that’s not on DT.
Anyone have a lead on the adjustable SRS butt plates? I remember seeing something like that in a thread here?
When Orkan was around I believe he reported that he tried the Dasher, BR, BRA, BRX and other similar cartridges that length were simply too short to feed reliably out of the DT magazine, on the feed ramp, through the extension and into the barrel.
Reportedly the cartridge would pop out of the magazine and be too far from the feed ramp, sitting parallel with the barrel and not slightly angled upwards as the magazine tries to position the cartridge for proper feeding, which causes a jam. The Dasher and 6BR max brass length is around 1.56” (+/- .01 based on your reamer) while the 6.5 Creed max case length is 1.92”. If you run the Desert Tech bolt slow enough on the 6.5 Creed and allow the cartridge to pop out of the magazine, you can get it to jam up too.
I have had my 6xc jam up whenrunning the bolt slow and it’s the same length as the Creedmoor. I haven’t had my 260 or 308 jam when going slow though and they are only slightly longer at 2.03” (+/- a few).
The WSSM’s look like they would also be a problem but I haven’t ran one or heard of anyone using one in a DT.
I know some folks have taken their feed ramp off and modified/polished the feed angle, which helps with feeding, but not enough to make a help a cartridge as short as the Dasher or BR variants feed every single time.
That must be a byproduct of having a chassis that can handle most everything between the 37XC and a 223. There aren’t many downsides to this platform but not every rifle can do everything.
Reportedly the cartridge would pop out of the magazine and be too far from the feed ramp, sitting parallel with the barrel and not slightly angled upwards as the magazine tries to position the cartridge for proper feeding, which causes a jam. The Dasher and 6BR max brass length is around 1.56” (+/- .01 based on your reamer) while the 6.5 Creed max case length is 1.92”. If you run the Desert Tech bolt slow enough on the 6.5 Creed and allow the cartridge to pop out of the magazine, you can get it to jam up too.
I have had my 6xc jam up whenrunning the bolt slow and it’s the same length as the Creedmoor. I haven’t had my 260 or 308 jam when going slow though and they are only slightly longer at 2.03” (+/- a few).
The WSSM’s look like they would also be a problem but I haven’t ran one or heard of anyone using one in a DT.
I know some folks have taken their feed ramp off and modified/polished the feed angle, which helps with feeding, but not enough to make a help a cartridge as short as the Dasher or BR variants feed every single time.
That must be a byproduct of having a chassis that can handle most everything between the 37XC and a 223. There aren’t many downsides to this platform but not every rifle can do everything.
Orkan is a lot like my grandfather. Very knowledgeable on a lot of topics and would talk your ear off on topics you share common interest. He would go the extra mile to help out in a bind. But my grandfather is also gruff ang gives zero fucks, so he rubs some people the wrong way. I just think he rubbed some SH members the wrong way, and this is the internet so lots of people said things you wouldn’t say to someone face to face. I think Orkan just elected to stay off the Hide.
Regarding his barrels; TS Customs made them so it’s more about Travis Stevens and less about Orkan. I have a TS Customs barrel in 300 WM that I won’t sell. It’s the barrel that is zeroed on my scope; all other barrels use an offset.
Regarding his barrels; TS Customs made them so it’s more about Travis Stevens and less about Orkan. I have a TS Customs barrel in 300 WM that I won’t sell. It’s the barrel that is zeroed on my scope; all other barrels use an offset.
I should add that I also wont sell my 260 barrel (by SAC) or my 6xc (by DMR) barrel.
Eric at ES Tactical came out with a new profile that is not on his site. This is 16.5" ultra light weight setup for hunting, comes in at 2 lbs 7 oz. Having a setup just for hiking might be worth it...
i've been running a 338 BR which is based on the 6mmBR Norma cases with 338 bullets and the 6.5X47 in my 1st Gen rifle and have done conversions for a lot of others who are also running them. No one has had any problems with feeding that I know of. I haven't been trying to see how fast I can dump a mag but I also don't load really slow normally and maybe thats the reason for no problems? Too fast or too slow maybe causeing feed issues?
With the BR most of us are running both subsonics with 300 gr bullets and supersonic with short little 180gr slugs. They're a lot shorter with the 180s but still feed fine. The 6.5X47 has had some problems in some converted 308 rifles because its a little short but we haven't had any. The 6.5mm bullets are plenty long and seem to help with the feeding. I've only done one creedmore barrel for a customer and he hasn't had a chance to shoot it yet. I didn't try mag feeding it as I only fired a couple rounds to check the chamber.
Frank
What caliber is that? For reference, a factory Covert 308 barrel weighs 3 lb 7 oz.
Thanks Frank. What’s the Overall Length on the 338 BR?
That may be where the feeding issues come in; short case with a “relatively” short 6mm bullet. A 338 BR is likely considerably longer than a 6BR or Dasher.
Hold up- you bought a new A2 with that many issues? Sounds like something odd happened in your situation and it’s being straightened out at the dealers expense. I’ve had 3 chassis’s and not an issue with any of them. Well I guess I hated the flat safety switch on my early SRS-A1 but that was resolved with a phone call to DT and they gave me the bell curved shaped one so I could engage the switch with gloves on. Keep us in the loop with the resolution.
That is a light profile. How does the accuracy hold up after a few shots?
Its 6.5 Creedmoor...yea 1 lbs drop off the factory barrel. I just paid a ton to switch from my A1 to an A2 to save 1.5 lbs, for a hunting setup this would be nice. Might be able to get the rifle down to 9 lbs
IDK...this was a picture Eric sent me and was a 'prototype' to cut as much weight as possible. I have 2 barrels on order from him so will need to wait and see. For a hunting set up I'm not thinking about the barrel heating up.
He can trim more out of the tenon. My SAC 260 has full fluted all the way through the tenon almost to the extension.
260 Rem barrel, fluted barrel and tenon, 27”, .920 muzzle with Area 419 adapter: 5 lb 4 oz
Does it affect accuracy?
NO!
260 Rem barrel, fluted barrel and tenon, 27”, .920 muzzle with Area 419 adapter: 5 lb 4 oz
Does it affect accuracy?
NO!
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Exactly! The flutes on the tenon/shank don't affect accuracy at all. I personally would like to see some spiral flutes on there. The light hunting profile barrels from Desert Tech open up their groups after 6 to 10 rounds. For hunting that really isn't an issues unless you're pig hunting in a target rich environment.
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