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Old People. Everywhere
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I know most won't like this but think of SS and the levels for paying in, then the limits set for stopping the tax on the wealthy.
Some work most of the year to pay the SS taxes and others 1-2 mos.
Don't get me wrong if your can make that much money more power to you but on the other hand does it sound right??
Some work most of the year to pay the SS taxes and others 1-2 mos.
Don't get me wrong if your can make that much money more power to you but on the other hand does it sound right??
Killing the communist motherfuckers in the teachers union was frowned upon.....
What do you think we should have done?
Were the 500+/- assholes sitting in the house and Senate, who voted those initiatives into law, boomers or greatest gen......
Who actually passed them. Can u name the acts and the years passed. Under which president?
I'm curious, not shit stirring.
House prices have doubled relative to income in two generations. More or less in some places. That’s made some people very rich but it’s been bad for the nation...and it was caused by the government.
Classy fella.
No, I’m related distantly to D’Amicos so I heard stories.He’s going to have to google Meyer Lansky, right ?
Require a non-partisan civil service, mandate curriculum that educated on the dangers of socialism and encourage right leaning people to become teachers.
You should push to institute this idea.
Who gets to mandate?
Let me know your results.
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People with low incomes get back more than they paid in. People with high incomes get larger checks but relative to what they paid, they get less back. This is what I’m talking about when I say people are lining up at the trough. This is why SS is so widely supported: there’s a relationship between what you earned and what you get back rather than means testing.
The disparity is larger with Medicare due to healthcare inflation.
@RyanScott
Here, house prices have tripled related to income since 1960. Why I said today, people are net negative the day they sign.
People with lower incomes who paid less, get back more on SSI, the disability, and on Medicare.
I personally havent seen what u described on a "normal worker" pay in and receipt.
Alabama and MS spar for the highest poverty level in the US, and a high # are on SS and Medicare, and their poverty level pay-in looks pretty much like their poverty level payments they are getting now.
I am missing seeing the SS thing u refer to.
Here, house prices have tripled related to income since 1960. Why I said today, people are net negative the day they sign.
People with lower incomes who paid less, get back more on SSI, the disability, and on Medicare.
I personally havent seen what u described on a "normal worker" pay in and receipt.
Alabama and MS spar for the highest poverty level in the US, and a high # are on SS and Medicare, and their poverty level pay-in looks pretty much like their poverty level payments they are getting now.
I am missing seeing the SS thing u refer to.
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And it’s intentional government policies driving the cost increase, largely to benefit current owners.
I like that idea! I don’t disagree with all you have said. Just the part about the old people!
we get run out of the "club". Relegated to the worst classes, and "observations" by admin every day in an attempt to find fault. One Black Panther admin guy tried to write me up for a lesson plan that I had invented. The next year, a teacher out west won "teacher of the year" for coming up with the exact same idea.
the more stupid a person is, the more readily he agrees with the idea of "free stuff that nobody has to pay for". Try explaining fiat currency to a non-English speaking dirtbag who comes to class 3 or 4 times a sememster, and only then with some coke residue on his face.
Hey, I'm not really sure but I think it was FDR back in late 30's, not sure but I know LB Johnson took money out for the VN war and the two groups in DC have taken well over one trillion bucks out and have no plans to return it to those who deserve whatever amount they're due.
If DC wasn't a me me me country club SS might well have paid for itself
the same government policies demand mass immigration to drive down wages so that they and the stockholders benefit, and their banker masters have more control. Then, overtax what little we do make, and treat us like livestock who are only here to produce for our masters. How does the story end? My kids will end up living in a society where they are unwanted outsiders, reviled for their culture and shunned from jobs.
I was being sarcastic about losing them. My grandmother is in lockdown. We sent her a care package smothered in Lysol by leaving it on her porch. I haven’t seen her in person in three weeks.
I know. We need to break that. Republicans worry too much about being ideologically pure, and not enough about winning. I suggest that we realign college subsidies to favor STEM, and require universities that accept federal funds have ideological diversity rather than just Marxists and Liberals.
If D's post would stay up in the quote, to both your points, a lot of us tax slave boomers are getting equally fucked along with you........
Is Why, in one of my earlier posts, I said we were in the same boat together and you were a valuable team member I didnt have to agree with on everything but find common ground with so we could both survive.
Where I grew up, 33 miles from Ft. Benning, Pop's last duty station, those people, in your send, were something between aliens and children of the old evil, and to be avoided at all cost, and viewed by everybody I knew, as the preferred victims of the next cataclysm.
And it was illegal to help them along, as well as in our beliefs that CONUS allowed them the same rights as us, let them be what they were.
That it was just the American way. Us, them, we were all Americans and ........
What can I say ? When the old folk said what should happen to them, one old three war vet said, "yall sound like Adolph Hitler"..... said, "i fought in 3 wars to keep those freedoms for all of us"....
He was killed on his 4th RVN tour. Kind of wish he was here today so could pick his thoughts.
Just fuck if i know....
Houses and dirt.
What I see happening is, the three house deal. Buy one, live in it, flip it, buy #2, owe on both, then # 3 and way net neutral..
I see it in Late Boomers, Gen ?, and into Millennials.
But, I dont hold it to the boomers rather than to whoever raided SS in 65 and the MIC complex deals that followed, big .gov screwing the tax slaves, to paraphrase DeerSniper.
Given the education emphasis, how many actually were taught to see this coming ?
My great depression parents taught me.
I said fuck you to Auburn University after year one and after one of those educators made me want to vomit.
My thoughts then were colored by an ugly two way range trip down south, and colored by "just do what you have to, to survive." Been that way since.
It was the choice I made then. It got me and a bunch others like me through working 3 jobs into having a retirement now.
Everybody had the same chances, some did better and have more than me, some have less, some way less. But, we all started from basically the same point. Coulda, woulda, shoulda....
I have a hard time blaming this on a generation, past or present, I blame it on less than 1% of the people, the fat ass rich old white men who sent pop that "Greetings, your friends and neighbors have selected you", they weren't ever our friends and they werent neighbors.
And some on us for staying law abiding and not helping write their obits.
Enough from a grumpy older person.
Stagflation didn’t last long. In any case when housing was half what it was relative to income that high interest got you a good tax break and then could be retired quickly. It wasn’t the end of the world.
Is electricity overpriced? That depends on who you ask. I worked for a municipal government where we operated both a power plant and a large metropolitan water system. We did double duty as both water and hydro guys, saving taxpayers basically 7 FTE's from the payroll. We could pump water using our own electricity and the city always added the electricity into the cost of the water as if they had purchased it from the local utility.
We transferred power to a utility switch yard a mile away so we had very little overhead infrastructure, instead of keeping linemen on the payroll we contracted to save money. All of our equipment was "run to failure", meaning the city paid for as little maintenance as possible over the working life of the equipment and when it finally blows up, we replace it. Saves a ton on PM's and maintenance workers, but means you hire contractors to replace everything and get it up and running as quickly as possible if it dies, it usually dies in the dead of winter or heat of summer.
So yes, the company guys might look like "glorified county workers" to the average idiot. But, when you have a 10 man job and three mechanics and one electrician with no instrumentation specialists you are fucked when stuff really fails. A good instrument tech is $100K a year and since you are a cheap fucker he works somewhere else.
The city owned the water system and charged for the water at reasonable rates and then the city had a utility tax on the water it sold. So every year they raised one or both rates which always seemed like a double screwing for rate payers. We were considered an "enterprise fund" meaning we self-funded our department selling water and power and put 15% away for capital projects, repairs and maintenance. The rest went to the general fund to pay for idiots at city hall. BTW, the utility taxes generate money for the general fund as well.
Capital projects cost millions, 36" ductile iron water main used to be about $160 a foot, imagine needing a mile of it and a dozen 36" valves, a trench and repaving a mile of city street. When the capital project fund got fat, every butt sucking councilman wanted to raid it for their pet projects, gay housing or some crap.
I never set the price on anything, electrical or water. Someone adds in the cost of hundreds or even thousands of non-productive over head types, managers, billing, accounting, dozens of useless engineers, secretaries and janitors, landscapers, idiot step-sons or dumb fuck nephews. I worked for a utility where every manager and engineer had their own secretary, most of those women did nothing all day but wander around in fuck me pumps and tight blouses. Every manager had their own personal Ford Explorer on the company dime. Yeah, I heard endless assholes bitch that we had an 800 Grizzly ATV with tracks to roar around with in the winter, but we had 6 miles of trails to climb into the national forest to check a small dam. Our power plant and dam was 55 miles from our headquarters and the nearest town had 500 people and one store. It costs money to get people who can do this job to live in a place like that.
That utility had an HR guy who was a lying douche. He wanted cameras to monitor the restroom doors to make sure you were not shitting to much on company time. He wanted microphones and cameras in every truck, not facing outside to watch for traffic, inside to monitor the conversations of the staff, he had heard they were talking bad about management. I'm not a big union guy, I pay my dues. But I am thankful for a written contract and federal laws protecting workers from this sort of shit.
And yes pensions work as described earlier. It is entirely possible to have three pensions and earned every one of them. It is possible to have three 401K's, 457K's or IRA's as well. You can also own two houses or three cars. Sometimes you can each more than once a day. If you didn't plan on retiring, that is your problem, I have spent my working life planning on a day when I won't have to work.
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I thinks we have some commons ideas about how these places are run and who gets the lions share of money. Sounds like the way schools are ran.
Don’t put off having fun till you’re retired. People die every day and when your old you might be too wore out to do a lot
