Suppressors Opinion on a Versatile Suppressor

JSTARSZ

JSTARSZ

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    #1
    I am in the market for a versatile suppressor as the title says. I have two suppressors now, a Gemtech HVT and an AAC/M4 2000 in 5.56. I normally hunt with a 6.8mm so I am starting to think of a suppressor for that. My 6.8mm's are a Noveske 10.5 SBR and a LWRC M6A2 in 6.8mm both in 5/8 x 24 thread patterns. I also have a couple of threaded rifles in 308 that I don't have a QD for so I was thinking of maybe getting a titanium can so I can use it on all the 6.8mm and above rifles.

    I know that AAC and AWC both make 6.8mm dedicated cans but most others make 308 that can be used for both.

    AWC Raider XM TI - cost is $1495 - ouch, I am in for almost 1700 bucks with the stamp. Love the size and weight but may be too much money for me to justify.

    AAC/M4/2000 - $1050 + 100 for Attachment

    I am trying to stay as light and not too long if I can help it so that is why I am thinking a Titanium 308 can?

    May be a Sandstorm?

    Any opinions on this or something else I should think about?
     
    #2
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    AAC 762SDN - You can use it on 308, 6.8, 6.5, 300AAC, 5.56... It's not much bigger than the M4-2000
     
    #4
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC 762SDN - You can use it on 308, 6.8, 6.5, 300AAC, 5.56... It's not much bigger than the M4-2000</div></div> the only problem I have with the 762SD is that it is heavy at almost 20 ounces and that is why I was kind of looking at Titanium. If I have to trade off some extra length (7-9") going to a 7.62 can then I would want to go as light as I can so as not to make the rifle too front heavy.
     
    #6
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    yea, $1795 for the suppressor is not much of a trade off as I would be in over 2K for suppressor and mount - double ouch. The search continues.
     
    #9
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSTARSZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC 762SDN - You can use it on 308, 6.8, 6.5, 300AAC, 5.56... It's not much bigger than the M4-2000</div></div> the only problem I have with the 762SD is that it is heavy at almost 20 ounces and that is why I was kind of looking at Titanium. If I have to trade off some extra length (7-9") going to a 7.62 can then I would want to go as light as I can so as not to make the rifle too front heavy. </div></div>

    Make sure you are looking at the 762SDN the 762SD is different.

    SDN is shorter and all inconel baffles. Same weight at 20oz though.

    http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=865
     
    #11
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    I am starting to look seriously at the AAC 762SDN. It is at the top of the list right now if I can find one in stock somewhere. I have four more weeks in the sand box so I need to start looking hard. I will also look at some titanium cans and see what I can come up with too. If nothing else the search is always fun.

    Anybody have an opinion on the Thunderbeast 30-P1?
     
    #12
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    sdn-6's are not to dealers yet they should be out in about two weeks they will be a very good suppressor. The thunder beast suppressors are very nice I have some on order will be in in 3 weeks. Let me know if i can help you with eather of these PM for price. Scott
     
    #13
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: operator45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sdn-6's are not to dealers yet they should be out in about two weeks they will be a very good suppressor. The thunder beast suppressors are very nice I have some on order will be in in 3 weeks. Let me know if i can help you with eather of these PM for price. Scott</div></div>
    My issue comes down to versatility - I just hate hanging a 8-9" suppressor off a 6.8mm SBR - Just defeats the purpose in my mind. May be I am making too much out of it. It is ok on a 308 bolt gun since I normally deal with it in the prone but...a SBR is meant for a run and go. May be I am trying for something that just isn't there. I could go with a M4/2000 in 6.8mm and have what I need but I can't use it on the 308's of course - oh the dilemma
     
    #14
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    Only one bad thing with with the AAC sdn-6's is that you will not be able to shoot the 308 or larger 762 rounds. The suppressor was made mainly for the 300 BLK round. I was recently looking at the same thing until I found this out the other day. My choices now are either the a Gemtech HVT QD or the AAC 762 SD. Also check these guys out cause you wont pay MSRP for a can like most local shops will sell them for. http://major-malfunction.com/ Buy the can and have it transferred to a local class 3. Once I was told about these guys I will no longer buy a can at MSRP prices.
     
    #15
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HAVOC615</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only one bad thing with with the AAC sdn-6's is that you will not be able to shoot the 308 or larger 762 rounds. The suppressor was made mainly for the 300 BLK round. I was recently looking at the same thing until I found this out the other day. My choices now are either the a Gemtech HVT QD or the AAC 762 SD. Also check these guys out cause you wont pay MSRP for a can like most local shops will sell them for. http://major-malfunction.com/ Buy the can and have it transferred to a local class 3. Once I was told about these guys I will no longer buy a can at MSRP prices. </div></div>

    Nope, the whole baffle stack on the SDN6 is made out of inconnel.
     
    #16
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HAVOC615</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only one bad thing with with the AAC sdn-6's is that you will not be able to shoot the 308 or larger 762 rounds. The suppressor was made mainly for the 300 BLK round.</div></div>
    I don't need to shoot anything larger than a 308 so I guess I am ok with that. I am looking for the best all around suppressor that I can use on 6.8mm rifles and 7.62's. The 6.8mm's are my hunting rifles so I am normally in a position of sitting or standing and rarely in a prone position so weight is an issue. I would be willing to trade some length for lesser weight but I don't want to turn a SBR into a 19" barrel either.
     
    #18
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HAVOC615</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only one bad thing with with the AAC sdn-6's is that you will not be able to shoot the 308 or larger 762 rounds. The suppressor was made mainly for the 300 BLK round. I was recently looking at the same thing until I found this out the other day. My choices now are either the a Gemtech HVT QD or the AAC 762 SD. Also check these guys out cause you wont pay MSRP for a can like most local shops will sell them for. http://major-malfunction.com/ Buy the can and have it transferred to a local class 3. Once I was told about these guys I will no longer buy a can at MSRP prices. </div></div>


    This is DEAD wrong.

    The 762SDN is MORE rugged than the original 762SD that was originally purpose built for the .308 cartridge.

    AAC reps have said the 762SDN would actually be fine on a .300WM (So long as it had a 24" barrel)


    You may want to go back and check your facts.
     
    #19
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSTARSZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HAVOC615</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only one bad thing with with the AAC sdn-6's is that you will not be able to shoot the 308 or larger 762 rounds. The suppressor was made mainly for the 300 BLK round.</div></div>
    I don't need to shoot anything larger than a 308 so I guess I am ok with that. I am looking for the best all around suppressor that I can use on 6.8mm rifles and 7.62's. The 6.8mm's are my hunting rifles so I am normally in a position of sitting or standing and rarely in a prone position so weight is an issue. I would be willing to trade some length for lesser weight but I don't want to turn a SBR into a 19" barrel either. </div></div>

    Refer to my above post about the 762SDN correction.


    Also you could always go with a 10.5" barrel to get your SBR a little shorter... (I'm guess you have a 12.5" on there now?)
     
    #20
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    Finally,

    One last thing, If you go with an AAC can I would def recommend the brake over the flash hider...

    3 reasons really. The FH's tend to make a ping noise, brakes actually improve the performance of a weapon and lastly, the brake will take some of the wear off of the blast baffle of the can.
     
    #23
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: operator45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the AAC SDN-6 is the perfect suppressor for you in my opinion</div></div> After doing lots of searching I pretty much came to that conclusion. The other option is just get a AAC M4/2000 in 6.8 but if I do that I lose a lot of what I am looking for - versatility.
     
    #25
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wakerider017</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok,


    Well length added to weapon is only 6.10" with the SDN.

    That will put your "barrel" at 16.10" with suppressor mounted. </div></div>
    that is correct but the hard part is going to be the ablility to find one as they are not out yet but will be soon - hopefully!!
     
    #26
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    My Shark has been on .22lr rifles, AR15's, AR10, and 308 260 243 boltguns, the thread adapters can be had in almost any thread a 308 and below can be threaded for, I have 1/2-28, 5/8-24, and 3/4-28, and there is very little if any POI shift on weapons that use a Tubb brake, the jam nut seems to negate shift.
     
    #27
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    I've got a 30P-1 on my .308 LWRC Repr. Shoots very nice and has a relatively mellow tone if you asked me. You get what you pay for with these cans....only gemtech's sandstorm comes close imo.
     
    #28
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSTARSZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wakerider017</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok,


    Well length added to weapon is only 6.10" with the SDN.

    That will put your "barrel" at 16.10" with suppressor mounted. </div></div>
    that is correct but the hard part is going to be the ablility to find one as they are not out yet but will be soon - hopefully!! </div></div>

    Yes sir. Find a dealer and get in line.

    If you need some recommendations send me a PM!
     
    #30
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    YHM 7.62 Ti, QD mount, 15oz, 8.5in, around $800 actual retail I think if you find one in stock.

    Buddy should have his in any day now Ill let you know how it sounds. If it has the same baffle design of the Stainless phantom it would be hard to beat for the $
     
    #33
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    Seems like I am still a tad perplexed on what to do but I have two more weeks in country before I am out of here and then I can really start to think about it. As is, who has the suppressor I want in stock at the time I am looking
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    I have not thought of a YHM so I will have to do some research today. Anyone with any opinions on the YHM TI?
     
    #34
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    Since abandoning my 'versatile .22 can' search and going with a dedicated .22lr can - I'm now in the same boat looking for a versatile .223 & 30 cal can. Since this question turned into a thread about the AAC 762SD and 762SDN I might assume that's the goto can?

    I'd mostly use this can on a 10.5" 223 and also a 24" precision 223. I'd like to have the option to suppress a 300BLK or 308win down the road too without any more tax stamps though...
     
    #35
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    I am still looking but I think if I were to go with a 308 can it would be the AAC SDN-6 or a titanium Thunderbeast or YHM Ti but the only issue with the Titanium's is that they are not for semi auto mag dumps. You will have to let it cool down.

    When I bought my dedicated 223 suppressor - M4/2000 in 5.56 I screwed up; I should have gotten a 6.8 and used it on all of them from 6.8 and down. But, oh well, that happens I guess I was not thinking of the future and expansion of my weapons.
     
    #36
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    I have a 2008 model AAC 762SD.

    When I bought it, it had the right balance of size, weight, price, and performance, for me.

    I have a first generation M4-2000 with serial number below 100, and the newer 762SD is longer but quite noticeably lighter than the old M4-2000.

    The Gemtech HVT is a great can, and Gemtech has mastered the first round pop issue. But that Gemtech can weighs like 8 oz more - and that's a lot!

    I use my 762SD on a 700P in .300WM - 26" barrel. I called AAC and asked them if this would be OK and they said 'yes' with that barrel length it would be fine. I also use it on a Noveske N6 18" .308 and a Steyr Tactical .308 24". All three rifles sound exactly the same with the can in place - you cannot tell the difference between the .300 and the .308. I use the AAC brake on the .300 and the tuning fork blackout on the other two. I really like that brake, but they're $150.

    The market has changed a bit since I made my purchase. Back then, YHM cans were big, cheap, and comparatively louder. Maybe they have changed since then. There are tons of suppressor manufacturers on the market now. But AAC and Gemtech have been around for a long time and have excellent reputations. Some say AAC customer service can be lacking. Too bad they make such good cans.
     
    #37
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    Well, after lots of thought and study I decided to go after an AAC 7.62 SDN-6. it just seems to fit my needs as a 6.8mm suppressor along with some other 308's. I already have a M4/2000 so I find the AAC product to be top notch. I would have liked a Titanium can but I couldn't find one that met my needs. It will be some time before I actually get the can so I will do a test after I get it.
     
    #38
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    I use an elite iron bravo 30 SD on my savage 10fp with 18 inch barrel the weight is a little on the heavy side at 26 oz. But is the quietest. Can I've heard and I was fortunate enough to test drive most of the aac cans before I chose elite iron
     
    #39
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    Well, I just got back from overseas and have had the opportunity to do some more work with the Noveske SBR. I have Gemtech HVT at home to play with - nice but heavy beast. I took the flash suppressor off the Noveske and put on a Gemtech mount and put the suppressor on it. Not bad on all the overall length (I am using a Noveske 10.5" SBR in 6.8mm). SOOOO, I went to my local tactical shop yesterday and they happened to have a Titanium Gemtech Quicksand in that someone had bought. WOW, love that Titanium. It was so light I couldn't believe it.

    So, low and behold Thunder Beast was running a Sniper's Hide special at the moment - perfect - now, I have one on the way.
     
    #40
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nmmi9100</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

    Here's the deal: Short, Quiet, and Cheap. Pick 2.

    -David
    Edgewood, NM </div></div>

    Isnt that the same deal with women???
    laugh.gif


    Anyways, did you get the SND-6? or you goin to get the TBAC? OR BOTH?? lucky...

    First time I held a Tbac 30p1 I was also amazed at its weight...cant wait for my paperwork to clear. (pending July 12th).

    Regards,
    DT
     
    #41
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    I'm not the OP, but based on this thread and a couple others I did go ahead and buy the AAC 7.62-SDN6. It's been out on a Form 3 for shipment for a few weeks now, hope to start my Form 4 real soon.
    The SDN6 seemed to be the best compromise of performance, versatility, and quick-detach options on the market. After tax stamp, shipping, and xfer fee the price came out to about MSRP.
     
    #42
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    AWC Raider XM TI - cost is $1495 - ouch, I am in for almost 1700 bucks with the stamp. Love the size and weight but may be too much money for me to justify.

    I have one ready to send the stamp check and paperwork in on so I guess I can tell you about it in February-March 2012ish
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    #43
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    I bought the Thunderbeast from the group buy. It just happened to be at the right time with a Titanium suppressor so I bought it. The Form 4 is at ATF now for processing. I guess I have at least three more months to wait. I should get it just about hunting season. I just could not pass up the deal that Thunderbeast had going on and I can't wait to get this on the 6.8mm to see how well it works.
     
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