I currenly use a sightron Siii 8-32x56 with the 1/4 minute target dot on my 243 to shoot open class. I have been thinking of going with a NF 5.5-22x50 NXS. My question is will I be gaining anything going with the NF? I would like to hear from anybody that has experince with both scopes.
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I have not used a Sightron, but I do shoot a Night force NSX 5.5 x 22x and I have never taken it off 22X. If was to buy another NF I would still get a NSX but the 12-42 power. This is for dedicated Ftr shooting.
Bob L.
I have not used a Sightron, but I do shoot a Night force NSX 5.5 x 22x and I have never taken it off 22X. If was to buy another NF I would still get a NSX but the 12-42 power. This is for dedicated Ftr shooting.
Bob L.
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For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford, and either the BR or NXS NF is a great choice.
For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford, and either the BR or NXS NF is a great choice.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mark Walker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford, and either the BR or NXS NF is a great choice. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mark Walker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford, and either the BR or NXS NF is a great choice. </div></div>
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I have both a 5.5x22x50 NSX and a 8x32x56 BR model. For f-class, the BR model is much better. The sight picture is clearer and brighter at high magnification by a significant margin and the extra magnification is a definite plus.
I have both a 5.5x22x50 NSX and a 8x32x56 BR model. For f-class, the BR model is much better. The sight picture is clearer and brighter at high magnification by a significant margin and the extra magnification is a definite plus.
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For F class I'm not sure that you actually gain anything going to a NF. I shoot a NF 8-32BR and I usually leave it on 32 unless I have mirage problems, which is not often even here in the heat in TN.
The NF is heavier than the Sightron, if you need to add a pound it will do that for you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford</div></div>
^ This ^
If you get a NF and you are buying new get a 12-42, you can always dial down. Personally unless I was getting more magnification I'd stay with what I had.
How many points do you think a NF will get you? If it won't improve your score it isn't worth it. The guy next to me who won at the TN regionals here in Oak Ridge a couple of months ago was shooting 190+ with a Savage and a Sightron.
Buy bullets instead.
For F class I'm not sure that you actually gain anything going to a NF. I shoot a NF 8-32BR and I usually leave it on 32 unless I have mirage problems, which is not often even here in the heat in TN.
The NF is heavier than the Sightron, if you need to add a pound it will do that for you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford</div></div>
^ This ^
If you get a NF and you are buying new get a 12-42, you can always dial down. Personally unless I was getting more magnification I'd stay with what I had.
How many points do you think a NF will get you? If it won't improve your score it isn't worth it. The guy next to me who won at the TN regionals here in Oak Ridge a couple of months ago was shooting 190+ with a Savage and a Sightron.
Buy bullets instead.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XTR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The guy next to me who won at the TN regionals here in Oak Ridge a couple of months ago was shooting 195+ with a Savage and a Sightron.
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It wasnt me, but I use a Savage 12 F T/R and a Sightron and do quite well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XTR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The guy next to me who won at the TN regionals here in Oak Ridge a couple of months ago was shooting 195+ with a Savage and a Sightron.
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It wasnt me, but I use a Savage 12 F T/R and a Sightron and do quite well.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mark Walker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford,</div></div>
Agreed, except with a qualifier added to read" <span style="font-style: italic">"For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford, <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">provided that the higher magnification does not come at the expense of clarity and resolution.</span></span>"</span> Magnification is worthless without clarity, and all the magnification in the world won't help you see the "X" better if the image is "muddy".
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mark Walker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ...and either the BR or NXS NF is a great choice. </div></div>
Also agreed. No clarity and/or resolution worries with the Nightforce NXS or BR scopes, they are an excellent choice.
Keith
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mark Walker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford,</div></div>
Agreed, except with a qualifier added to read" <span style="font-style: italic">"For dedicated F Class, get the highest power you can afford, <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">provided that the higher magnification does not come at the expense of clarity and resolution.</span></span>"</span> Magnification is worthless without clarity, and all the magnification in the world won't help you see the "X" better if the image is "muddy".
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mark Walker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ...and either the BR or NXS NF is a great choice. </div></div>
Also agreed. No clarity and/or resolution worries with the Nightforce NXS or BR scopes, they are an excellent choice.
Keith
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i like the nightforce scopes for fclass, in the nxs and benchrest, i also like the schmidt and bender 12-50
i like the nightforce scopes for fclass, in the nxs and benchrest, i also like the schmidt and bender 12-50
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Another reason to go Nightforce; the NP-2DD reticle. Works extremely well for F-Class.
Another reason to go Nightforce; the NP-2DD reticle. Works extremely well for F-Class.
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I've had these both side by side, recently, and I wouldn't sell my Sightron to go with the lower powered NXS.
Now, if we are talking a designated fclass gun, the NF 12-42 would be worth the look, but you aren't gaining anything going from your 8-32 SIII to a 5.5-22 NXS.
I'm also shooting my SIII on top of a Savage
I've had these both side by side, recently, and I wouldn't sell my Sightron to go with the lower powered NXS.
Now, if we are talking a designated fclass gun, the NF 12-42 would be worth the look, but you aren't gaining anything going from your 8-32 SIII to a 5.5-22 NXS.
I'm also shooting my SIII on top of a Savage
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: calling4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've had these both side by side, recently, and I wouldn't sell my Sightron to go with the lower powered NXS.
Now, if we are talking a designated fclass gun, the NF 12-42 would be worth the look, but you aren't gaining anything going from your 8-32 SIII to a 5.5-22 NXS.
I'm also shooting my SIII on top of a Savage</div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: calling4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've had these both side by side, recently, and I wouldn't sell my Sightron to go with the lower powered NXS.
Now, if we are talking a designated fclass gun, the NF 12-42 would be worth the look, but you aren't gaining anything going from your 8-32 SIII to a 5.5-22 NXS.
I'm also shooting my SIII on top of a Savage</div></div>
+1
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My question would be "have you lost points due to your optic"?
Does it track correctly?
Does it subtend correctly?
Is it repeatable?
Would a line cross hair assist you more vs a dot?
No? Why change?
Yes? Why haven't you changed?
Cheers,
Doc
My question would be "have you lost points due to your optic"?
Does it track correctly?
Does it subtend correctly?
Is it repeatable?
Would a line cross hair assist you more vs a dot?
No? Why change?
Yes? Why haven't you changed?
Cheers,
Doc
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IMHO you gain something to going to the NF if you select the correct reticle. I got rid of the Sightron target dot that I had and went with the NP-R1 to better be able to hold wind. You could also hold windage by reading the rings on the target, but this was just not my preference. I also think the 1/4 dot covers up a little too much of the target.
IMHO you gain something to going to the NF if you select the correct reticle. I got rid of the Sightron target dot that I had and went with the NP-R1 to better be able to hold wind. You could also hold windage by reading the rings on the target, but this was just not my preference. I also think the 1/4 dot covers up a little too much of the target.
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If you do go with the 5.5x22 Nightforce I would suggest that you go with the 56mm. The larger obj. really seems to help out when you get over 15 power. At least it has for me. I also have the 8x32x56 Nightforce and it is quickly becoming my favorite, although I would like to try a S&B 5x25x56.
If you do go with the 5.5x22 Nightforce I would suggest that you go with the 56mm. The larger obj. really seems to help out when you get over 15 power. At least it has for me. I also have the 8x32x56 Nightforce and it is quickly becoming my favorite, although I would like to try a S&B 5x25x56.
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I recently switched from a Weaver T-24 to a NF 8-32x56 BR. The Weaver is a good scope and has been very reliable. But the clarity of the NF surprised me. It's really a nice scope to spend a few hours looking through: just crystal clear. I would not recommend the 5-22x50 for F-Class: you are going the wrong way. Go with either of the BR models. Personally, I prefer lower magnification than most folks and shoot with it set to around 24x.
I recently switched from a Weaver T-24 to a NF 8-32x56 BR. The Weaver is a good scope and has been very reliable. But the clarity of the NF surprised me. It's really a nice scope to spend a few hours looking through: just crystal clear. I would not recommend the 5-22x50 for F-Class: you are going the wrong way. Go with either of the BR models. Personally, I prefer lower magnification than most folks and shoot with it set to around 24x.
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I use a sightron 8-32, this scope tracks perfectly and at 1000yds at 32 you can pick the spot in the Xrings, saving $500 over a nightforce doesn't hurt either and glass is about the same for my quick comparison check at the matches, in my opinion the nightforce is a great scope that doesn't bring much improvement over the SIII for known distance, black on white target shooting.
hope this helps.
I use a sightron 8-32, this scope tracks perfectly and at 1000yds at 32 you can pick the spot in the Xrings, saving $500 over a nightforce doesn't hurt either and glass is about the same for my quick comparison check at the matches, in my opinion the nightforce is a great scope that doesn't bring much improvement over the SIII for known distance, black on white target shooting.
hope this helps.
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I went from a Leupold 8.5-25x50 to a NF 12-42x56BR on a F-class .223 bolt. The extra magnification definitely helped my scores.
But, I also agree that you should buy the best glass you can afford.
I went from a Leupold 8.5-25x50 to a NF 12-42x56BR on a F-class .223 bolt. The extra magnification definitely helped my scores.
But, I also agree that you should buy the best glass you can afford.
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