Our ancestors would cry.............

[xray9]

....if they only knew how we treat our oceans

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/02/navy-to-resume-sinking-old-ships-in-us-waters/?intcmp=trending

Reef structure? Habitat improvement? I am all for it if there was only life down at 6,000 feet below.

 

[Hink]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

Damned tree huggers....sink a decommissioned ship by using it for target practice until she slips below the waves in 6,000 feet of water, and it's an environmental tragedy. Spend a mint to plan to drop a decommissioned aircraft carrier in 150 feet of water as an artificial reef, and somehow that's being environmentally conscious.

I'm not particular either way, I'd just like a single perspective to argue. A sane person can't argue for both sides.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

Them fish-kissin' idiots seem to have a schizophrenic motto:

"For every solution, I have a problem"

For a group who does nothing but complain about every feather-sniffin' issue under the sun, just to get their voices heard, they continue to negate their own viability.

 

[Queequeg]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

My ancestors were pretty practical folks. Probably leaning more to the scrap yards as the jobs provided, as well as the salvage of all that steel and other material would be useful.

But the reefs provided by the wrecks are known quantities now and provide benefits that are easily justifiable from a financial perspective.

And it's hard to quantify the high value of target practice on actual, life like targets!

Speaking only for my own ancestors, I'd say they're fine with this!

 

[Maggot]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My ancestors were pretty practical folks. Probably leaning more to the scrap yards as the jobs provided, as well as the salvage of all that steel and other material would be useful.

But the reefs provided by the wrecks are known quantities now and provide benefits that are easily justifiable from a financial perspective.

And it's hard to quantify the high value of target practice on actual, life like targets!

Speaking only for my own ancestors, I'd say they're fine with this! </div></div>

 

[The Mechanic]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

EVERY boat ever made for the ocean is nothing more than a long term alka-Seltzer. That ship is a net plus for the ocean. Good place for the fishies.

 

[Chabrone]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

But the reefs provided by the wrecks are known quantities now and provide benefits that are easily justifiable from a financial perspective.

Do we know if the ships create usable habitat at 6K feet? I am sure some organisms are benefiting from it and will enhance the food chain at some point.

 

[Wanderlust]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

I just wish they would sink them in 200' instead of 6,000'. I can't dive that deep =).

 

[InsidetheStorm]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wanderlust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just wish they would sink them in 200' instead of 6,000'. I can't dive that deep =).</div></div>

+1, but at 100 feet. My open water cert wont let me dive deeper than that.

 

[Queequeg]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My ancestors were pretty practical folks. Probably leaning more to the scrap yards as the jobs provided, as well as the salvage of all that steel and other material would be useful.

But the reefs provided by the wrecks are known quantities now and provide benefits that are easily justifiable from a financial perspective.

And it's hard to quantify the high value of target practice on actual, life like targets!

Speaking only for my own ancestors, I'd say they're fine with this! </div></div>

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More like these;

<span style="font-size: 8pt">Dinoflagellate Noctiluca scintillans (magnified).</span>

 

[EddieNFL]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> A sane person can't argue for both sides.</div></div>

Not much sanity among the likes of ELF, PETA, EPA, etc.

 

[Switchblade]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xray9</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am all for it if there was only life down at 6,000 feet below. </div></div>

want some more photos of life at 6,000' below?

 

[Kodiak61]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

 

[mexicanmatch]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

fill them full of Muslims first. MM

 

[xray9]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

I'll raise you, one more carrier and two destroyers will really benefit these strange creatures--a cause worthy of support. How 'bout emptying some of our prisons for a long, slow ride out to sea first? Jerry can come along too........xray9

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

The ocean is less than 5% explored, but some folks are dead certain that X event, or Y event is positively guaranteed to extinguish the world as we know it. The problem is the phrase 'the world as we know it'. Pretty mostly we <span style="font-style: italic">don't</span> know it, and the naysayers and knowitalls are just a bunch of self certified tea leaf readers. IMHO

<span style="font-style: italic">Godzilla</span> is a more richly fact-based account than some of our most celebrated doomsayers' prophecies..

Greg

 

[bassani]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

all that steel is a fortune in scrap. wtf not recoop money. can you say $16 trillion debt and ticking

 

[Icallem]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

Typically the cost to demo is more than the scrap value.

 

[gunjunkie45]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xray9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll raise you, one more carrier and two destroyers will really benefit these strange creatures--a cause worthy of support. How 'bout emptying some of our prisons for a long, slow ride out to sea first? Jerry can come along too........xray9 </div></div>


That could benefit the bone eating snot flower.... Yeah, that's really a thing. http://www.eversostrange.com/2011/01/25/bone-eating-snot-flower/

 

[Hink]

Re: Our ancestors would cry.............

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: InsidetheStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wanderlust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just wish they would sink them in 200' instead of 6,000'. I can't dive that deep =).</div></div>

+1, but at 100 feet. My open water cert wont let me dive deeper than that. </div></div>

You don't need a cert...just hold your breath and this heavy belt here....

See you in a couple minutes.