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You can drink Mountain Dew now, just in case you hadn't heard...
You can even drink Dr. Pepper now as well...

But many do prefer to just avoid caffeine all together.

This was about 10 years ago. He spent the entire morning talking about wanting a mountain dew and how he had been good for years. Spent lunch time crying about going to hell.

That same guy got married to his wife 2 weeks after their first date. He was not a smart man.

He quit talking to me after I suggested a divorce would be better than listening to him yell at his wife on the phone for hours every day. 🤣

I think it has more to do with the temple they're actively going to. He was very devoted to whatever he was told there, and it didn't all agree with what I've been told by members of other temples.
 
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This was about 10 years ago. He spent the entire morning talking about wanting a mountain dew and how he had been good for years. Spent lunch time crying about going to hell.

That same guy got married to his wife 2 weeks after their first date. He was not a smart man.

He quit talking to me after I suggested a divorce would be better than listening to him yell at his wife on the phone for hours every day. 🤣

I think it has more to do with the temple they're actively going to. He was very devoted to whatever he was told there, and it didn't all agree with what I've been told by members of other temples.

The poor guy sounds like he might have been seriously confused or going through something else.
While different local congregations often have their own cultural flavour depending on the area, it's all one Church and the official teachings and doctrines and worthiness standards for going to one of Temples (which is different from going to your local Church) are essentially set the same for everyone regardless of where you are. They are set by the Church leadership and not subject to change at lower levels.

If he was crying about thinking he was going to hell, then he really needed to get with his Bishop and study correct doctrines and teachings again.
Even if he did something actually that you are not supposed to do like drink coffee, that's more of a minor transgression and any decent Christ-like Bishop in the Church would have easily been able to talk with him and explain how to repent and do better next time.
 
This was about 10 years ago. He spent the entire morning talking about wanting a mountain dew and how he had been good for years. Spent lunch time crying about going to hell.

That same guy got married to his wife 2 weeks after their first date. He was not a smart man.

He quit talking to me after I suggested a divorce would be better than listening to him yell at his wife on the phone for hours every day. 🤣

I think it has more to do with the temple they're actively going to. He was very devoted to whatever he was told there, and it didn't all agree with what I've been told by members of other temples.
They are only slightly better than the JW. LOL
 
When I was 11, I was baptised as a mormon (my grandparents were into it.) Later, at the age of 14, I was ordained as an aaronic priest.

Our scoutmaster was in the church. He was a former military pilot who was then flying 747s for Delta. He was also a 5th degree black belt in kenpo karate and taught us scouts for free. Our assistant scoutmaster, also in the church, was an Army Ranger. He taught us parade drill (toe and heel about face, gun work, etc.) He once brought in one of his instructors who taught us how to live off the land and "eat things that would make a billy goat puke.

But I have been to church in decades. Never progressed to the melchezedek priesthood or all that other work.

But I appreciate a good joke now and then.
 
You have your opinions and I have mine. Nothing wrong with either of those either.

If I type too much for you- there's a simple solution if it's causing you (or anyone else for that matter, looking at you @TheBigCountry) grief. Good lord- how many times does Frank need to reiterate this?

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I think it was Popeye that said, "I am who I am, and that's all that I am". I do struggle to see how your post here contributes to the conversation though...

If you don't like what I post, or how I post here- then why would you voluntarily enter a thread "I" started, act surprised that the Duck is doing Duck stuff only to "rattle your sabres" and post how you're better than me? Do you not see the irony of your post, what it insinuates, and the topic being discussed here?

Come on @Bullfrog08 you're better than this, you know it & I know it. Find a different hobby, be a better man, choose your own adventure. But don't crap on my thread with the argument that I posted what you don't like.

How many posts have you started here, how many independent thoughts were you willing to share in a community of strangers? When did you have an opinion that you were willing to stand behind despite public scrutiny?

Do better.


-LD
Bullfrog says: "Not Appreciated!!"
 
truth time, your actions won't get you into heaven. you aren't as righteous as the biblical jews, and apparently they were pretty darn good, but nowhere near good enough to make it to heaven without atonement for their sins, atonement which alone they couldn't/wouldn't attain. they would drop everything and walk across the country to make a single convert. these were fiercely religious people, and apparently they were too flawed to get into heaven alone. read the new testament, build a relationship with the christ, and force yourself to attend the most orthodox, hard hitting church you can that preaches right out of the bible. your future will be much cooler if you do.
 
also, i read the mormon accounting, and looked into Mormon philosophy and found none of it convincing. I will stay far away from LDS as the more I learn the more the hair on the back of my neck stands up...
Or you could just join & find out that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are the most Christian Christians of all Christians.

Then you can enjoy sharing the Truth of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ with others so they can find the same wonderful happiness you found & look forward to eternity with joy & gladness.
 
Or you could just join & find out that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are the most Christian Christians of all Christians.

Then you can enjoy sharing the Truth of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ with others so they can find the same wonderful happiness you found & look forward to eternity with joy & gladness.
And I was thinking Meatloaf was singing about the extension of mormon marriage. They believe you can be married for eternity.

Meatloaf's words from "Paradise By The Dashboard Light."

"I'm praying for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive.
'Cause if I have to spend another minute with you
I don't I could barely survive.

I'm praying for the end of time.
It's all I can do, do, do.
I'm praying for the end of time
So I can end my time with you."
 
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And I was thinking Meatloaf was singing about the extension of mormon marriage. They believe you can be married for eternity.

Meatloaf's words from "Paradise By The Dashboard Light."

"I'm praying for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive.
'Cause if I have to spend another minute with you
I don't I could barely survive.

I'm praying for the end of time.
It's all I can do, do, do.
I'm praying for the end of time
So I can end my time with you."

I could see some people perhaps don't want to have any further dealings with their spouse after this life.
But if you really love your spouse and are truly one with them, wouldn't you want to be able to spend eternity with them?

Perhaps none of your older relatives who had lost a spouse looked forward to being together with them in the next life?

I remember both of my grandmothers were all about being anxious to be re-united with their husbands for eternity in the next life.
Several of my good friends who are older are also waiting patiently until the day they are able to be reunited with their spouses in the next life.

Such wishes and aspirations are not unique to one single denomination.

Fortunately, in Their loving kindness and the wonderful plan of Salvation and Exaltation, Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have provided a way for us to be together with our loved ones forever.

When you are sealed together under the proper authority, your marriage and your family can will continue on for eternity.

You don't have to have your marriage sealed for all eternity, that is a choice. Some people prefer to only be married for the rest of their lives.
It's a choice you make.


There is of course this very important thing called free agency and choice. At no time in this life or the next life will Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ force someone to stay sealed to someone they no longer wish to. Nor can any of us force someone to stay married to us and/or sealed to us against their will.
 
I could see some people perhaps don't want to have any further dealings with their spouse after this life.
But if you really love your spouse and are truly one with them, wouldn't you want to be able to spend eternity with them?

Perhaps none of your older relatives who had lost a spouse looked forward to being together with them in the next life?

I remember both of my grandmothers were all about being anxious to be re-united with their husbands for eternity in the next life.
Several of my good friends who are older are also waiting patiently until the day they are able to be reunited with their spouses in the next life.

Such wishes and aspirations are not unique to one single denomination.

Fortunately, in Their loving kindness and the wonderful plan of Salvation and Exaltation, Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have provided a way for us to be together with our loved ones forever.

When you are sealed together under the proper authority, your marriage and your family can will continue on for eternity.

You don't have to have your marriage sealed for all eternity, that is a choice. Some people prefer to only be married for the rest of their lives.
It's a choice you make.


There is of course this very important thing called free agency and choice. At no time in this life or the next life will Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ force someone to stay sealed to someone they no longer wish to. Nor can any of us force someone to stay married to us and/or sealed to us against their will.
If I arrive in heaven....not likely....and the first people I see are relatives, I'll know I didnt make it!
 
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If I arrive in heaven....not likely....and the first people I see are relatives, I'll know I didnt make it!

It doesn't have to be that way.

It's your choice, you can choose freely the path you want to be on and if you want to be able to live in the presence of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. The only one stopping you is you. It's a free gift that you have to accept willingly.

You can choose to be sure of where you go.

And your relatives who have passed on, still have the choice to repent and accept the gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
It doesn't have to be that way.

It's your choice, you can choose freely the path you want to be on and if you want to be able to live in the presence of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. The only one stopping you is you. It's a free gift that you have to accept willingly.

You can choose to be sure of where you go.

And your relatives who have passed on, still have the choice to repent and accept the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Maybe but my relative on my side have special place in hell to stay in. Now on the hand my wife side is good and don’t mind seeing them in Heaven since they treated me much better and didn’t act like assholes.