Pistol brace SBR free registration?

[Animal357]

Given that none of the lawsuits have not stopped this BS, its time to register. Is the free registration only for factory built pistols or build your owns?

I know how to register, but how do I take advantage of the free registration?

 

[wvfarrier]

I would imagine all the info is on the .gov website.

 

[AMGtuned]

FATF

There's a separate spot on AFT portal for amnesty permission

 

[Animal357]

Thanks

 

[NiteQwill]

Given that none of the lawsuits have stopped this BS, its time to register. Is the free registration only for factory built pistols or build your owns?

I know how to register, but how do I take advantage of the free registration?

It's for factory or home built pistols alike.

 

[Junco Grande]

Both. Even if you bought it factory, you list as "maker".

Info From Silencer Shop >>>TRUST registrants must submit evidence that the trust possessed the braced firearm before Jan. 31, 2023 in order to qualify for tax-exempt registration under ATF’s brace rule (2021-08F). ATF states they will be looking for a signed, dated, and notarized document, such as a trust schedule or inventory list, showing the date the trust acquired the firearm. Due to this, Single Shot Trusts will not be able to be used for a tax-exempt transfer

 

[acudaowner]

lol there is no such thing as a free puppy , when the government is ready they will use such lists and beat your door down at 2 or 3 am no knock of course , and shoot your dog or your neighbors dog it's how they roll .

 

[Holliday]

I just love the whole “Free” little shiny fishing lure they threw into this registration. They know gun owners far too well…..

 

[Budrichard]

Not to get into a ‘pissing contest’ but I think the ATF had done a good job on the Ruling.
The ATF is charged with enforcing the NFA of 1934 and as such SBR are required to be Registered and a $200 Tax paid. Due to the ATF in the past wanting to allow people with disabilities the use of Pistols, the ATF did not contest the selling of these Braces. But the use of Pistol Braces has obviously expanded well beyond people with disabilities.
My reading of the Ruling is that if you use the Pistol Brace as designed strapped to your arm, you are Legal.
If the Brace is not strapped to your arm and braced against your shoulder, you are not legal.
So you do not have to do anything if you use the Brace as designed.
The ATF has waved the $200 fee but I don’t know how the ATF can do that as it is Federal Law.
You must have owned the Brace at the time of the Publication of the Ruling to avoid the $200.
I have submitted two braced firearms so far with .eft finger print files and picture files.
They have both been accepted.
The hardest thing was acquiring .eft files for $60 each.
But once you have them, there is no additional cost for any ATF submission for prints.
If you are not computer savvy, then you will have a problem.
The Real Problem is that the 1934 NFA Act is outdated and needs to be updated.
Technology has progressed with bump Stocks, FRT Triggers and who knows what else is out there in fertile minds. Suppressors need to be eliminated from the NFA for Health Reasons.
I intend to spend my Energy on getting the NFA overhauled just as I did for Concealed Carry in Wisconsin.
-Richard

 

[houndog]

"If you are not computer savvy, then you will have a problem" should be highlighted and in bold. I am not a complete ignoramus when it comes to computers, but I have been really struggling to do an e-filing. Probably spent 4-5 hours already, without success. First problem is that they want a picture of the receiver. No problem, I have a nice Nikon camera. Unfortunately, because it is a nice camera it takes high resolution pictures. Well, that's no good because I then exceed the forms 3 MB cap. Tried readjusting the quality of the images in the camera, but can't get it below 3 MB. Am now going to try taking pics with my cell phone and somehow try to transfer them to my computer- but when it comes to cell phones I am a complete idiot. I just hate them.

Then there's loading fingerprints. I actually recently did a suppressor transfer and had my fingerprints electronically scanned. Had them e-mail me what I guess are .eft finger print files. But I can't open this attachment and have no idea how to download this file to my e-file. Going to spend a couple of more hours on this and then give up and I guess do a paper filing (if that's even an option). That means go to the police station and get multiple finger prints taken (since I'm doing more than one), and get multiple passport pictures taken. Have no idea what to do if they still want pictures of the receivers with serial numbers and if so what to do about this.

Can't believe I'm the only person with a pistol brace that's struggling with this. Ultimately, I'm going to reach a point where I just say "f*ck it, if they want to kick in my door, shoot my dog and take me into custody there's not much I can do about it."

 

[hlee]

An object does not change what it is based on how it is used (or misused). If I fire a rifle without shouldering the stock, does it become a pistol? If I hold a Glock pistol against my shoulder while firing, does it become a rifle? The glaringly obvious answer in both cases is NO.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

Not to get into a ‘pissing contest’ but I think the ATF had done a good job on the Ruling.
The ATF is charged with enforcing the NFA of 1934 and as such SBR are required to be Registered and a $200 Tax paid. Due to the ATF in the past wanting to allow people with disabilities the use of Pistols, the ATF did not contest the selling of these Braces. But the use of Pistol Braces has obviously expanded well beyond people with disabilities.
My reading of the Ruling is that if you use the Pistol Brace as designed strapped to your arm, you are Legal.
If the Brace is not strapped to your arm and braced against your shoulder, you are not legal.
So you do not have to do anything if you use the Brace as designed.
The ATF has waved the $200 fee but I don’t know how the ATF can do that as it is Federal Law.
You must have owned the Brace at the time of the Publication of the Ruling to avoid the $200.
I have submitted two braced firearms so far with .eft finger print files and picture files.
They have both been accepted.
The hardest thing was acquiring .eft files for $60 each.
But once you have them, there is no additional cost for any ATF submission for prints.
If you are not computer savvy, then you will have a problem.
The Real Problem is that the 1934 NFA Act is outdated and needs to be updated.
Technology has progressed with bump Stocks, FRT Triggers and who knows what else is out there in fertile minds. Suppressors need to be eliminated from the NFA for Health Reasons.
I intend to spend my Energy on getting the NFA overhauled just as I did for Concealed Carry in Wisconsin.
-Richard

Should probably post this in the Bear Pit. I'm willing to bet you'll find at least two other people on this forum that think the ATF has done a good job at anything.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

Can't believe I'm the only person with a pistol brace that's struggling with this. Ultimately, I'm going to reach a point where I just say "f*ck it, if they want to kick in my door, shoot my dog and take me into custody there's not much I can do about it."

Maybe you're just the only person trying to keep up with the latest constitutional breach. Hope you get it figured out before the inevitable new ruling that negates all of today's attempts at compliance.

 

[hlee]

"If you are not computer savvy, then you will have a problem" should be highlighted and in bold. I am not a complete ignoramus when it comes to computers, but I have been really struggling to do an e-filing. Probably spent 4-5 hours already, without success. First problem is that they want a picture of the receiver. No problem, I have a nice Nikon camera. Unfortunately, because it is a nice camera it takes high resolution pictures. Well, that's no good because I then exceed the forms 3 MB cap. Tried readjusting the quality of the images in the camera, but can't get it below 3 MB. Am now going to try taking pics with my cell phone and somehow try to transfer them to my computer- but when it comes to cell phones I am a complete idiot. I just hate them.

Then there's loading fingerprints. I actually recently did a suppressor transfer and had my fingerprints electronically scanned. Had them e-mail me what I guess are .eft finger print files. But I can't open this attachment and have no idea how to download this file to my e-file. Going to spend a couple of more hours on this and then give up and I guess do a paper filing (if that's even an option). That means go to the police station and get multiple finger prints taken (since I'm doing more than one), and get multiple passport pictures taken. Have no idea what to do if they still want pictures of the receivers with serial numbers and if so what to do about this.

Can't believe I'm the only person with a pistol brace that's struggling with this. Ultimately, I'm going to reach a point where I just say "f*ck it, if they want to kick in my door, shoot my dog and take me into custody there's not much I can do about it."

If you had your prints scanned, you can probably get that company to send you a paper copy of your prints. Silencer shop offers this service to those that have a kiosk account.

You can send this paper print out, along with the cover sheet the ATF emails to you, to the ATF.

As far as the pictures go, you should be able to reduce the file size of the picture on your computer.

 

[Namekagon]

Not to get into a ‘pissing contest’ but I think the ATF had done a good job on the Ruling.
The ATF is charged with enforcing the NFA of 1934 and as such SBR are required to be Registered and a $200 Tax paid. Due to the ATF in the past wanting to allow people with disabilities the use of Pistols, the ATF did not contest the selling of these Braces. But the use of Pistol Braces has obviously expanded well beyond people with disabilities.
My reading of the Ruling is that if you use the Pistol Brace as designed strapped to your arm, you are Legal.
If the Brace is not strapped to your arm and braced against your shoulder, you are not legal.
So you do not have to do anything if you use the Brace as designed.
The ATF has waved the $200 fee but I don’t know how the ATF can do that as it is Federal Law.
You must have owned the Brace at the time of the Publication of the Ruling to avoid the $200.
I have submitted two braced firearms so far with .eft finger print files and picture files.
They have both been accepted.
The hardest thing was acquiring .eft files for $60 each.
But once you have them, there is no additional cost for any ATF submission for prints.
If you are not computer savvy, then you will have a problem.
The Real Problem is that the 1934 NFA Act is outdated and needs to be updated.
Technology has progressed with bump Stocks, FRT Triggers and who knows what else is out there in fertile minds. Suppressors need to be eliminated from the NFA for Health Reasons.
I intend to spend my Energy on getting the NFA overhauled just as I did for Concealed Carry in Wisconsin.
-Richard

I don't think you are right about using a pistol brace as intended making you legal. The original SB brace is illegal now whether its strapped to your arm or not. ATF declared any AR with a sub 16" barrel and any type of brace beyond just a strap attached to the buffer tube to retroactively be an SBR.

 

[rustyinbend]

My "Freedom to stay out of prison" is more dear to me than my "Freedom to be unregistered". I caved, and did an amnesty registration on all four of my pistol-braced short AR's. I had already SBR'd a fifth one (SIG MPX) a couple of years ago since I wanted a fixed stock and vertical foregrip ... and paid the $200 to do it. Figured since "free" is part of "freedom", and since I want to customize these anyway, I'd save the money and "cave to the man". I know there's a chance I'd be unhappy with that decision eventually, but I've got several SBR's and seven (7) suppressors ... so the NFA guys already know where I live. Life goes on ... with a savings of $800 in tax stamp fees.

 

[Budrichard]

"If you are not computer savvy, then you will have a problem" should be highlighted and in bold. I am not a complete ignoramus when it comes to computers, but I have been really struggling to do an e-filing. Probably spent 4-5 hours already, without success. First problem is that they want a picture of the receiver. No problem, I have a nice Nikon camera. Unfortunately, because it is a nice camera it takes high resolution pictures. Well, that's no good because I then exceed the forms 3 MB cap. Tried readjusting the quality of the images in the camera, but can't get it below 3 MB. Am now going to try taking pics with my cell phone and somehow try to transfer them to my computer- but when it comes to cell phones I am a complete idiot. I just hate them.

Then there's loading fingerprints. I actually recently did a suppressor transfer and had my fingerprints electronically scanned. Had them e-mail me what I guess are .eft finger print files. But I can't open this attachment and have no idea how to download this file to my e-file. Going to spend a couple of more hours on this and then give up and I guess do a paper filing (if that's even an option). That means go to the police station and get multiple finger prints taken (since I'm doing more than one), and get multiple passport pictures taken. Have no idea what to do if they still want pictures of the receivers with serial numbers and if so what to do about this.

Can't believe I'm the only person with a pistol brace that's struggling with this. Ultimately, I'm going to reach a point where I just say "f*ck it, if they want to kick in my door, shoot my dog and take me into custody there's not much I can do about it."

The .eft file cannot be opened by you. You can email the file or upload but not open. You just upload the file to the form and it’s validated.
For pictures, my son says there is no requirement to upload a picture unless the field is asterisked.
For a cell phone picture, generally emailing the picture gives you the ability to resize or get below the 3MB requirement.
On the ATF website there are instructions that walk you through step by step. my son tells me.
Good luck.
-Richard

 

[Diesel79]

An eform 1 is simple. Literally 15 minutes tops if you have eft prints and a cell phone pic saved.

 

[Aviatorfreak]

Use the Silencer shop method. 50 bucks apiece. I did 5 submissions and got my first one back today. only 3 weeks. Silencer shop is super easy. Hope my other 4 come back. Now i ordered vertical grips and real magpul collapsible stocks for the new "sbrs" lol

 

[houndog]

Think I finally figured it out and will be e-filing for a couple of pistols I have with braces. I already have 2 SBR's I did a number of years ago before pistol braces were really a thing. And I already own a couple of suppressors and the paperwork on 2 more was just submitted. So the ATF already has my prints, pics and personal info.

I'm generally pretty cynical about the ATF, state AG's and government flip flops on what is legal and what is illegal - used to live in MA and experienced first hand the state's AG waking up one morning and unilaterally decreeing that guns that were previously legal would henceforth be illegal. However, I am hopeful that even the ATF can't believe they would get away with flip flopping on this again.

Of course I suppose the downside of doing this is that when I die and my kids go to sell those guns that I did the paperwork for, they will now be considered SBR's making them far more difficult to sell. But I'll be dead, my kids have zero interest in firearms and they'll all end up being sold for pennies on the dollar anyway. At least some lucky b*st*rds will end up with screaming deals on a bunch of guns that have always been well cared for.

 

[Charger442]

Use the Silencer shop method. 50 bucks apiece. I did 5 submissions and got my first one back today. only 3 weeks. Silencer shop is super easy. Hope my other 4 come back. Now i ordered vertical grips and real magpul collapsible stocks for the new "sbrs" lol

Wait... Silencer shop charges you 50 bucks a peice to file an efile form 1? You have to be kidding me.

 

[rustyinbend]

I'm about 7 weeks since eForms submitted for four pistol-braced AR's ... nothing yet. I'm happy waiting longer and spending $0.

 

[FuhQ]

Not to get into a ‘pissing contest’ but I think the ATF had done a good job on the Ruling.
The ATF is charged with enforcing the NFA of 1934 and as such SBR are required to be Registered and a $200 Tax paid. Due to the ATF in the past wanting to allow people with disabilities the use of Pistols, the ATF did not contest the selling of these Braces. But the use of Pistol Braces has obviously expanded well beyond people with disabilities.
My reading of the Ruling is that if you use the Pistol Brace as designed strapped to your arm, you are Legal.
If the Brace is not strapped to your arm and braced against your shoulder, you are not legal.
So you do not have to do anything if you use the Brace as designed.
The ATF has waved the $200 fee but I don’t know how the ATF can do that as it is Federal Law.
You must have owned the Brace at the time of the Publication of the Ruling to avoid the $200.
I have submitted two braced firearms so far with .eft finger print files and picture files.
They have both been accepted.
The hardest thing was acquiring .eft files for $60 each.
But once you have them, there is no additional cost for any ATF submission for prints.
If you are not computer savvy, then you will have a problem.
The Real Problem is that the 1934 NFA Act is outdated and needs to be updated.
Technology has progressed with bump Stocks, FRT Triggers and who knows what else is out there in fertile minds. Suppressors need to be eliminated from the NFA for Health Reasons.
I intend to spend my Energy on getting the NFA overhauled just as I did for Concealed Carry in Wisconsin.
-Richard

 

[FuhQ]

My "Freedom to stay out of prison" is more dear to me than my "Freedom to be unregistered". I caved, and did an amnesty registration on all four of my pistol-braced short AR's. I had already SBR'd a fifth one (SIG MPX) a couple of years ago since I wanted a fixed stock and vertical foregrip ... and paid the $200 to do it. Figured since "free" is part of "freedom", and since I want to customize these anyway, I'd save the money and "cave to the man". I know there's a chance I'd be unhappy with that decision eventually, but I've got several SBR's and seven (7) suppressors ... so the NFA guys already know where I live. Life goes on ... with a savings of $800 in tax stamp fees.

Except they don't give you a stamp... Just an approved Form 1 with NO stamp on it. Therefore, they can revoke it at any time. Never trust anything free, especially from the Government.

 

[Maxduty]

Not to get into a ‘pissing contest’ but I......means I want to get into one

All that matters is this part

The Real Problem is that the 1934 NFA Act is outdated and needs to be updated. You spelled repealed wrong
Everything needs to be eliminated from the NFA for The Constitution.
I intend to spend my Energy on getting the NFA repealed just as I did for Concealed Carry in Wisconsin.
-Richard

FIFY

 

[Budrichard]

Thanks for the erudite editing……….

 

[SnowMan]

Let me see if I got this. As of now, the ATF is totally unaware of all the firearms and suppressors I have accumulated over the years. So when I submit a Form1 for a SBR, Im going to appear on the radar and they are going to put me on a hit list? Thats just fucked up....

 

[Charger442]

Except they don't give you a stamp... Just an approved Form 1 with NO stamp on it. Therefore, they can revoke it at any time. Never trust anything free, especially from the Government.

It's a tax forbearance. Which means that can be called in when they change their minds

 

[FuhQ]

It's a tax forbearance. Which means that can be called in when they change their minds

Exactly…. Pay the $200 and get a real stamp with no incriminating evidence of wrongdoing.

 

[hlee]

Exactly…. Pay the $200 and get a real stamp with no incriminating evidence of wrongdoing.

Except that the $200 eForm 1 doesn’t have a REAL stamp either. The approved form is emailed with the image of a stamp applied.

Someone with mediocre skill could do that in PowerPoint. Allegedly…

 

[Charger442]

Except that the $200 eForm 1 doesn’t have a REAL stamp either. The approved form is emailed with the image of a stamp applied.

Someone with mediocre skill could do that in PowerPoint. Allegedly…

you're point is its not a real stamp because its digital?

its just like money. is your money less "real" because it shows up as a number in your bank account instead of actual bills in possession? if it gets used like money, and spends like money then its money.


the government claims the eform its a real stamp, and therefore its recognized as such.

 

[hlee]

you're point is its not a real stamp because its digital?

its just like money. is your money less "real" because it shows up as a number in your bank account instead of actual bills in possession? if it gets used like money, and spends like money then its money.


the government claims the eform its a real stamp, and therefore its recognized as such.

My point is none of it is real. When/if the confiscations happen, that piece of paper isn’t going to stop “them.”

And, money is only real in the sense that society has collectively agreed that it is more convenient to trade worthless pieces of portable art for goods and services than it is to trade goods and services for other goods and services.

 

[CaptArab]

I've thought long and hard about this.
I think the most practical decision is to fake stamp a couple, real stamp a couple, and 80% . . . More than a couple

 

[FuhQ]

Except that the $200 eForm 1 doesn’t have a REAL stamp either. The approved form is emailed with the image of a stamp applied.

Someone with mediocre skill could do that in PowerPoint. Allegedly…

Yes, but the eform stamp has a “$200 tax paid” digital stamp with a correlating catalog number that has a provable a paper trail with the ATF, whereas the freebies don’t even have that.

 

[rustyinbend]

Except they don't give you a stamp... Just an approved Form 1 with NO stamp on it. Therefore, they can revoke it at any time. Never trust anything free, especially from the Government.

Where do you see that? Please share a reputable source. I don't believe that's true ... but I guess I'll find out when my applications get approved.

 

[Holliday]

I think the ATF had done a good job on the Ruling.

-Richard

Gotta give Richard credit for at least showing his ass in plain sight and not trying to camouflage it.

Mom’s Demand is counting on you Richard…..

 

[FuhQ]

Where do you see that? Please share a reputable source. I don't believe that's true ... but I guess I'll find out when my applications get approved.

People posted pictures of their approved “Free” form 1 up on here. Pretty common knowledge at this point that there is no stamp on the amnesty forms. Do some googling.

 

[Holliday]

I'm happy waiting longer and spending $0.

 

[Namekagon]

It's a tax forbearance. Which means that can be called in when they change their minds

I am not an expert, but I think many people are seeing boogeymen on the tax forbearance that may not exist.

My bet is the whole reason they did the tax forbearance is:

A) They don't have the legal power to forgive the tax completely, and NFA requires a $200 tax so they are stuck with the law.
B) Making changes to the definition of "rifle" that then requires previously lawful citizens to have to pay a $200 tax might have run afoul of the legal system in court challenges. To be clear, its gonna have court problems anyway, and it should. But I wonder if the forbearance was nothing more than an attempt by ATF to have the rule change actually stick if challenged. That way they can say "No one was harmed financially by our decision."

 

[Charger442]

My point is none of it is real. When/if the confiscations happen, that piece of paper isn’t going to stop “them.”

And, money is only real in the sense that society has collectively agreed that it is more convenient to trade worthless pieces of portable art for goods and services than it is to trade goods and services for other goods and services.

if none of its real, then why did you pipe up trying to differentiate between a physical stamp and an efile stamp?

if we are going to suspend reality and say gun consfiscation is happening, nothing but a howitzer will stop it.

 

[Holliday]

With the current makeup of SCOTUS and recent court decisions, I see no way this stands the test of time. I said the same thing about bump-stocks, when they banned those.

Unlike bump-stocks, removing the brace and either getting rid of it or keeping it completely separate puts you in compliance. It is that simple.

IF the ruling goes in our favor, the marriage vows of the brace could be renewed, legally.

If it does not, one could always pay the $200, SBR their legal pistol and put a stock (or brace) on when approved.

Wisdom, would have been for 2Aers to hold the line, legally.

BUT the ATF appears smarter than the average 2Aer. They put the shinny little “Yeah it’s a nose ring but its FREE! FREE!! I say! FREEEEEE!!!!!

I swear if I hear/read “FREE” one more time I am going to puke

As far as I am concerned everyone who rushed out to get their FREE “nose ring” sold us down the river, when there was a simple legal temporary alternative. I really have to give the ATF credit for how well they played us. Touché!

Gun owners fight like little girls……..

There, I said it.

 

[Charger442]

I am not an expert, but I think many people are seeing boogeymen on the tax forbearance that may not exist.

My bet is the whole reason they did the tax forbearance is:

A) They don't have the legal power to forgive the tax completely, and NFA requires a $200 tax so they are stuck with the law.
B) Making changes to the definition of "rifle" that then requires previously lawful citizens to have to pay a $200 tax might have run afoul of the legal system in court challenges. To be clear, its gonna have court problems anyway, and it should. But I wonder if the forbearance was nothing more than an attempt by ATF to have the rule change actually stick if challenged. That way they can say "No one was harmed financially by our decision."

your point (A) is the real kicker. thats what i worry is the real issue. ATF cant waive the tax legally. so how can they issue a forbearance and not enforce that part of the law? Is there something in the prosecutorial discretion that allows them to do that?

and if there is, then that means, a new ATF director, a new AG, could come in and decide, "ok, now im going to go ahead and enforce that law now" and then they can?

again, pistol braces were always a honey pot. now ATF can run around and change their minds know millions of people have already admitted and submitted evidence that they have pistol braces.

 

[Charger442]

Gun owners fight like little girls……..

because, unfortunately in this instance, fighting isnt our career. family, life, church, volunteer work, jobs that contribute to society..... those are our general domain. The left is full of societal failures who are "over-educated", and or lazy, entitled, generally unhappy and miserable and their career is being an "activist" and full time protestor because they are miserable.

you arent wrong, but the gun owners, conservatives and right-leaning people truly have more involved in their life than standing outside a convention center or government building and yelling at people.

 

[BCP]

Gun owners fight like little girls……..

Conservatives are too law-abiding. They respect order and institutions. Liberals don't care, they'll happily burn anything down.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

again, pistol braces were always a honey pot.

Ding.

 

[Namekagon]

With the current makeup of SCOTUS and recent court decisions, I see no way this stands the test of time. I said the same thing about bump-stocks, when they banned those.

Unlike bump-stocks, removing the brace and either getting rid of it or keeping it completely separate puts you in compliance. It is that simple.

IF the ruling goes in our favor, the marriage vows of the brace could be renewed, legally.

If it does not, one could always pay the $200, SBR their legal pistol and put a stock (or brace) on when approved.

Wisdom, would have been for 2Aers to hold the line, legally.

BUT the ATF appears smarter than the average 2Aer. They put the shinny little “Yeah it’s a nose ring but its FREE! FREE!! I say! FREEEEEE!!!!!

I swear if I hear/read “FREE” one more time I am going to puke

As far as I am concerned everyone who rushed out to get their FREE “nose ring” sold us down the river, when their was a simple legal temporary alternative. I really have to give the ATF credit for how well they played us. Touché!

Gun owners fight like little girls……..

There, I said it.

I agree that mass non-participation would have been better. My only worry about removing the brace and waiting is: Can ATF agents determine that an AR, without brace or stock, is still an SBR based on other features, using the language of this new rule? I know they threw out the points sheet idea, but some of the language of the current rule hints at ATF being able to say "We know one when we see one."

I have not yet decided what I am going to do, and I need to do it soon. Originally I planned to wait until after the amnesty and then register as a normal SBR. Honestly I don't give a shit about the $200, but the biggest thing pushing me to consider the amnesty registration is not needing to have it engraved. I don't really know how that works, or if anyone around here does that sort of thing. Can I just use a dremel?

 

[Diesel79]

Nothing like sticking it to the man and doing a paid form. Yea, screw you govt., here’s $200 for taxes I shouldn’t have to pay and a drawn out process I shouldn’t have to take part in.

The way I look at it, paid or not, you’re still on the nfa list so you’re fucked either way if they are coming for sbr’s.

 

[BCP]

now ATF can run around and change their minds know millions of people have already admitted and submitted evidence that they have pistol braces.

I could see it happening but who knows. Might register my stribog just because it is useless without a “brace” but my ARs will probably get pinned 16” barrels.

 

[JS8588]

I had one pistol. I sold off the brace and put a 16 inch barrel on the build. Still have the 12.5 inch barrel. Should we win this in court, I'll purchase a new brace, reinstall the barrel, and build something new with the 16 inch barrel.

 

[Animal357]

Where are the lawsuits?

The emergency injunctions?

Why has this BS not been stopped?