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Pits attack and kill bike rider
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She blames the owners for teaching them to be that way? No, they are vicious dogs. That’s another good reason to always be packing a pistol
So the owners taught the dogs to hunt as a pack and kill humans?
Dogs looked young and inexperienced so if you ever find yourself in such a situation without any sort of weapon, make sure you kill the most driven dog however you can and as quickly as you can.
Dogs looked young and inexperienced so if you ever find yourself in such a situation without any sort of weapon, make sure you kill the most driven dog however you can and as quickly as you can.
I have been in more homes than I can count over the last 15+ years doing service work. I have yet to meet a vicious pitbull. Viciously wanting head scratches and attention maybe.
Little dogs are the vicious ones. Nippy happy little shits with a Napoleon complex.
I've been in houses with some mean sounding dogs too, it's all in what they are taught. One house might have a cuddly German Sheppard, and the next one will charge the door to bite your face off.
Little dogs are the vicious ones. Nippy happy little shits with a Napoleon complex.
I've been in houses with some mean sounding dogs too, it's all in what they are taught. One house might have a cuddly German Sheppard, and the next one will charge the door to bite your face off.
He sure is carrying alot of stuff for a leisurely bike ride around the neighborhood at 10pm. That going along with the fact they haven't seized the dogs makes me feel like there is more to this one.
The stats don't lie. Pits have killed twice as many people as any other breed. Second to the pit, is the rottweiler. The small dogs are typically the feisty ones, but they don't kill people.
Ok, the first thing to do when being surrounded by a pack of dogs is to fall down. Stumble around and fall down.
It won't save you, but it will least stay consistant with every viscious dog encounter ever caught on camera.
Remember, Stop, drop and roll and get mauled to death.
This is also true when getting chased by a bear or a masked slasher in a horror movie. Run twenty feet...and then fall down.
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Could be homeless. It could be that was his stuff he was carrying around and public property he was on. But then I would think, they would have seized the dogs.
Their instinct is your neck, so stay on your feet!!!! If they pull you down, get back on your feet! Protect neck and inner thighs as much as possible. You want to inflict as much pain on their paws as you can. If they are attacking hands, drive your hand down their throat.
I was attacked when I was 12 by a large dog, it had me on the ground and tore me up pretty good, luckily a guy was outside chopping wood and hit the dog with an axe. The dog died a couple days later. I still remember the guy grabbing me with blood all over and dragging me to the neighbor's house, beating on their door. I thought he was going to chop the door down with the axe. I can't remember the words, but he was pissed. I guess I wasn't the first.
Where's all the Haitians when you could use em.
I haven't done much in home service work and have seen plently of vicious dogs, pits included.
The issue with pits is when they break bad, they break bad hard and their owners or who they attack are incapable of stopping them. Thats what they were bred for. And why no matter how cute and cuddly couch potato they are, I will never fully trust that bred, because I have seen first hand what they are capable of through sheer instinct.
I have been charged by a pit and other larger breds while walk my Dachshund. Did not work out well for that dog.
Can't be pitts again.
One of these days we will get you discuss the people who get mauled by golden doodles.
Someone said above that they were responsible for twice as many fatal attacks as any other breed. That's ridiculous. It's like a factor of 20x to any other breed. But...... soon the apologists will be here to tell us how chihuahuas bite more people, and how their pits rock their toddlers to sleep at night and change their diapers.
One of these days we will get you discuss the people who get mauled by golden doodles.
Someone said above that they were responsible for twice as many fatal attacks as any other breed. That's ridiculous. It's like a factor of 20x to any other breed. But...... soon the apologists will be here to tell us how chihuahuas bite more people, and how their pits rock their toddlers to sleep at night and change their diapers.
In a previous life I humped Mail. Never had bare teeth break skin , had pants and socks torn , but I’ve had many close calls.
I think I have good ju ju around dogs , still do.
There was a black dude that fought his Pits and I always had mace ready and a sawed off baseball bat under my arm when I was in its ‘hood. I saw one Pit he had that would attack a bag swing in his backyard and he’d latch on and swirl in circles , sometimes for hours.
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As far as biking and running around dogs , I try and know beforehand if bad dogs are known to be out...if so , I avoid being there…. . But I ALWAYS carry a knife , a can of Halt ll , and a Smith & Wesson Airlite .22 that holds 8 rds. I have used it numerous times , no one has ever questioned it. Even in my little town. Fuck em !
If I EVER hear “ he won’t bite again “ i want to vomit.
Rule of thumb ….if it’s got a tooth , it might bite.
I think I have good ju ju around dogs , still do.
There was a black dude that fought his Pits and I always had mace ready and a sawed off baseball bat under my arm when I was in its ‘hood. I saw one Pit he had that would attack a bag swing in his backyard and he’d latch on and swirl in circles , sometimes for hours.
.As far as biking and running around dogs , I try and know beforehand if bad dogs are known to be out...if so , I avoid being there…. . But I ALWAYS carry a knife , a can of Halt ll , and a Smith & Wesson Airlite .22 that holds 8 rds. I have used it numerous times , no one has ever questioned it. Even in my little town. Fuck em !
If I EVER hear “ he won’t bite again “ i want to vomit.
Rule of thumb ….if it’s got a tooth , it might bite.
Dang, what a dilemma. Bicyclist or pit bull? 3 wide guy in spandex blocking traffic or the vicious drooling man eater?
Ohh which one to bash?
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3 out of five came up tails. Which one was tails? Sheesh. Gotta flip again. Maybe Rock, Paper, Scissors
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3 out of five came up tails. Which one was tails? Sheesh. Gotta flip again. Maybe Rock, Paper, Scissors
In another life, I ran a large ranch near a metro area. All the old timers and game warden gave me advice about the dogs. I ignored it and got an expensive lesson early on. Everyone dumped their dogs and it was a constant problem. One lab is easy, two or more shepherds or pit bulls and it was a mess in the making.
Sometimes I could round them up and take them to the pound in town, and other times I could not, and they had turned feral and did what I had to do.
And other times I got calls from elderly renters or neighbors with a very bad situation on their hands. Fun is walking into the brush following a trail of blood from one of the dead goats knowing only " there were two pit bulls." It took five slugs to take one down that launched himself at me. And then a mag dump from my pistol for the other.
After that I got my ass over to where there was a problem and took care of it.
Sometimes I could round them up and take them to the pound in town, and other times I could not, and they had turned feral and did what I had to do.
And other times I got calls from elderly renters or neighbors with a very bad situation on their hands. Fun is walking into the brush following a trail of blood from one of the dead goats knowing only " there were two pit bulls." It took five slugs to take one down that launched himself at me. And then a mag dump from my pistol for the other.
After that I got my ass over to where there was a problem and took care of it.
Dogs can be sneaky and live double lives. I've seen well fed cared for healthy dogs with collars with vaccination tags jingling on them, miles from their upscale neighborhood mansions running deer on a ranch I hunted on. I once saw a pip-squeek Chihuahua chase a herd of deer off my feeder.
I don't know the story, but the video shows way too many red flags: I'm not seeing collars, I'm not seeing a fenced yard, what I am seeing though is misbehavior that is being encouraged by being in a pack.
Having had to recently kill another pack of three dogs that were going after one of my cows, I will say that the pack mentality exists. Those three that I dealt with were out to kill something that morning, and had actually changed courses on what that was going to be three times before I caught up to them and opened fire.
It doesn't have to be pits. Of the numerous packs of dogs that I've encountered that were up to no good here on the ranch, only one was comprised of pits that were probably all dumped off together. Most of the time it is a livestock guardian dog (of all things) mix, or just a Heinz 57 mix. Usually they are 60+ pounds too, and some of them appear full-blooded Pyrenees or Anatolian and weight 1.5 times that.
My rule is that if they have a collar, I will try to catch it and get it home. Dogs without collars and/or in packs get the coyote treatment.
Having had to recently kill another pack of three dogs that were going after one of my cows, I will say that the pack mentality exists. Those three that I dealt with were out to kill something that morning, and had actually changed courses on what that was going to be three times before I caught up to them and opened fire.
It doesn't have to be pits. Of the numerous packs of dogs that I've encountered that were up to no good here on the ranch, only one was comprised of pits that were probably all dumped off together. Most of the time it is a livestock guardian dog (of all things) mix, or just a Heinz 57 mix. Usually they are 60+ pounds too, and some of them appear full-blooded Pyrenees or Anatolian and weight 1.5 times that.
My rule is that if they have a collar, I will try to catch it and get it home. Dogs without collars and/or in packs get the coyote treatment.
I had a girlfriend that was driving her 4x4 when she got circled by a pack of feral dogs. She yelled at them , even tried To run over a couple. They were still circling her ….. She finally got her Mossburg 590 free ….two rds of 00 buck ended the attack. No doubt it saved her ass.
Maybe vicious dogs should be treated as squirrels?
Owners too, I reckon...
I suppose anymore, one should always be prepared for an animal attack either 2 or 4 legged. Ever watch the History Channel series called "Alone"? People dropped off in middle of bear country armed with a only a bow and airhorn. First thing I'd do is make a good sturdy fire-hardened-tip spear. I would still get eaten but the bear would have a spear hole or 2 in it.
Owners too, I reckon...
I suppose anymore, one should always be prepared for an animal attack either 2 or 4 legged. Ever watch the History Channel series called "Alone"? People dropped off in middle of bear country armed with a only a bow and airhorn. First thing I'd do is make a good sturdy fire-hardened-tip spear. I would still get eaten but the bear would have a spear hole or 2 in it.
I was walking in the the predawn through a live oak mott to my deer stand past a ranch house built in the 1850's that was supposed to be haunted. It was already eerily surreal. All of a sudden a huge Great Pyrenees ran right up to me in the moonlight, completely silent, swapped ends and disappeared just as fast like some white ghost.
I stood there frozen with my jaw dropped. the Rem. .243 in my hands completely useless. Pyrenees may appear slow and lumbering but they can run a coyote or a deer down with ease.
They're elusively light - as far as weight is concerned - for their size. They look like they weigh 125 - 150lbs with all of that hair, but more often than not they are 80 - 90lbs. Very much like a German Shepherd, and probably as nimble too.
A Pyrenees running down a deer or a coyote? Are you sure about that? I understand that they might surprise one, or pin them against a fence and grab them, but when it comes to the speed required to catch either of those animals, I just can't see a Pyrenees getting to it. I could be wrong though, it happens all the time.
I wonder if the guy was impaired? Drunk, high or both? I do not get how he did not take the situation more seriously? Why the hell did he not just drop his shit and climb on the truck in the background at first sniff? Once he fell he seemed like he paused as if something serious was not about to happen?
I've had two of them run down a deer below my house. Full-blooded Pyrenees. I got to them when they had the deer pinched in the creek, and they had got to both banks.
Like a moron, I just yelled and they ran off. That was my "never again" moment, because about a month later I caught them trying to flush and kill my barn cats from my hay barn.
Whether they could have done it by themselves is questionable. I get game camera photos all the time of deer being run by dogs
and usually the deer has a good 30 seconds on the dog. Increase pack size though like wolves, and the success rate increases exponentially.I approach the topic with common sense.
Imo,
Really, any big breed dogs can inflict real damage/death to the average person, but especially old and young people. Some breeds seem more likely to attack. Just is what it is. A bad owner or good owner makes a huge difference on dog behavior, no doubt. But even with that said, some breeds are just more aggressive. Its called...."nature".
When I was young we had a massive and agressive lab hunting dog. He was fine with 99.9% of people, but that 0.1%, not so much. For unknown reasons other than to the dog. But if he went off on someone who were completely unarmed they would have been in real trouble.
It seems like many people have never seen dog's get into fights and how vicious our fuzzy friends can be when their minds are made up and they are 100% committed. Ive seen a few growing up when a stray would wander in or whatnot...its ugly and even uglier if you have to step in.
Imo,
Really, any big breed dogs can inflict real damage/death to the average person, but especially old and young people. Some breeds seem more likely to attack. Just is what it is. A bad owner or good owner makes a huge difference on dog behavior, no doubt. But even with that said, some breeds are just more aggressive. Its called...."nature".
When I was young we had a massive and agressive lab hunting dog. He was fine with 99.9% of people, but that 0.1%, not so much. For unknown reasons other than to the dog. But if he went off on someone who were completely unarmed they would have been in real trouble.
It seems like many people have never seen dog's get into fights and how vicious our fuzzy friends can be when their minds are made up and they are 100% committed. Ive seen a few growing up when a stray would wander in or whatnot...its ugly and even uglier if you have to step in.
I had a neighbor with two pits. The older one was okay, but the younger one's brain only worked on wild emotions. If it ever got out, I am sure it would have attached someone or someone's pet.
I did get bit by a black lab when I lived there, it drew blood. It was super aggressive as well.
I did get bit by a black lab when I lived there, it drew blood. It was super aggressive as well.
Yup. Every situation is different too, however always go for the Alpha.
Had a run in with a massive pack of Tibetan Mastiff, easily 40+. Well outside of the village near the base of MT Kailash, Ngari Tibet AR in 2007. Was about surrounded. Used my loaded touring bike & a drainage ditch to avoid being completely encircled. In short, pepper sprayed the apparent alpha at contact distance. Stopped it cold, then it took off like a bolt. The entire pack followed.
Notable, this was not a surprise attack while riding AND MT Kailash was where Buddhists would perform "sky burial", so more likely than not these dogs were used to humans as meat/bones.
Was warned by an Ausie backpacker couple I came upon who had been literally probed by that pack for hours. The Ausies were pretty distraut, however had the wherewithal to Alamo up & stone the pack with each probe...they just couldn't get back to the village with the ongoing probes. The Ausie's hitched a ride with 4x4 tour group shortly after the pack ran off after the Alpha. We could see that pack running for miles, litterally.
I caught up to the Ausies a few villages S, then we all hitched a ride (my bike & gear included) for 2 days on a PLA column closer to Lhasa (?Shigatse?). "Fun" ensued there obtaining a travel stamp from the Peoples Police, given the illegal entry into the TAR...
Shit, would love to have a beer with you. Bet you have a ton of stories about places and things most of us never see.
Did you ever get over to Mongolia?
I was in the middle if nowhere 29 miles from the nearest town probably 10 to the nearest house one night on my way home from work. I came upon a chihuahua running all out down the side of a dirt road. It slowed and stopped as I slowed and stopped beside it. Looked at me then took off at a dead run again. My dad told me when he was in high school his GF lost an old half crippled chiuhua, they found it on that road almost a year later it better shape than when it disappeared.
Maybe not a deer on a flat open track but that one that ran up on me was stealth quite and when he ran off it was as fast as a deer. It was like poof, WTF did I just see. It happened so fast I questioned it wasn't my imagination, like some aborition. I could see where it could be on a deer that had it's head down feeding. Thats what he thought I was and he was on me before I could even react.
A buddy raises goats out here and he says he's seen his GP run down a coyote along a fenceline and kill it. The rear end and shoulders seem to be independent of each other when walking but he said at a full run they come together with it's powerful shoulders reaching and taking long chunks of real estate in each bound.
I know it's gay, but I'm only allowed 4 different pistols on my carry permit. I was going to add a model 38 for walking our dogs in the neighborhood in the summer. Should probably stick with the p938, g19, 1911s that I've been working with.
I hope you got plenty of pics, that'd make an intersting book.
Those Tibetan Mastiffs are scary. If that pack would have gotten those Aussies down it would have been a record fast sky burial.
I knew a dude who claimed that if you go to a certain part of the city and start running fast enough you’ll teleport to the underworld where old rich people go to rejuvenate.
No pics. Everything electronic was stolen in Bangkok. A few sent from other travelers. Do have my log book & now expired passport from that trip. Some neat stamps, including an unexpected/unwanted 24hr transit for Moldova...the Romania -> Ukraine ferry crossing that was supposed to exist, didn't any longer.
Yah not a fan of any dogs in packs. Those Mastiff's tho & feral. One of my lifelines used up with that encounter. The Ausies saw what was going down, we were still line of sight. However there was absolutely nothing they could have done, more so if the dogs had drawn blood. If they had been taken down? Yah, just shreds of clothes & packs would have been left.
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There was a thread recently about pit bulls and someone posted a stat. Pits are far above all other breeds combined for vicious attacks. Sure little dogs will act all tough, but I’ve yet to see one that viciously attacked anyone. Plus they are easy to boot into the neighbors yard
The most dangerous thing about a Chihuahua is the owner after you boot the little turd for nipping at your ankles.
That pic of him on the video, probably a selfie, looks like he may have had some habits not condusive to a stable life.
I remember this story about a mechanic that went to a farm to service their vehicles and was attacked by 2 or 3 large dogs.
They tore his fucking arm off and started eating him, like cracked the bone open to get at the marrow while he was still alive.
There is also some statistic out there that says Shepherds are the most likely dog to bite. We separate bite data from fatality data because the media wills it.
Since about 1980 to about 2000 pit bull fatalities in the US totaled mid 60s and Rotties totaled about 40. 40 is not a small number either and if it wasn't for Pits Rottweilers would be the focus.
German Shepherds and Huskies are around 15 each in that same time period.
Horrible thing to have happened, wouldn't wish it on anyone undeserving, but I still blame the owner not the dog. I had an uncle who raised dogs and roosters for fighting back in the 60's and it wasn't impossible for us as kids to handle the dogs. But we didn't try to sneak up on them at night.
I think pit bulls get a bad rap because of the type of people who seek them out and how they're treated and raised. I've known too many people with gentle pit bulls and rottweilers to just blanketly blame the dogs.
Where are the statistics for the temperament of the owners whose dogs have attacked people?
Next we'll be blaming guns for violence.
No, just no. The bite statistics put German Shepards at 3rd for bites, however, the pit bull is number one, and number 2-10 added together doesn't total half of what pit bulls do. There are two types of people on earth: people who can read simple statistics and realize that these shit dogs are a nuisance, and people in denial. It isn't the owners, it's the fucking dogs, year after year, killing children and hospitalizing innocent people. Most developed nations have outlawed them. The math couldn't be simpler..
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Sure, sure, sure.
And 9mm is responsible for more deaths and wounds than any other caliber so we should ban that too.
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Yeah I see that side of it too. Definitely the fault ultimately lies with the owner. I can’t speak to other areas, but here in redneck north central Idaho it’s all the meth addicts and general scum that own Rottweilers and pit bulls. My point is that even with trash owners some breeds of dogs aren’t inclined to be vicious. I’ve seen some low down ghetto trash that owned other breeds like retrievers and hounds and they aren’t vicious. Don’t even seem much inclined to bite. I’ve owned a couple border collies and one of them wouldn’t let anyone near my truck. He didn’t bite anyone but he made you think he would. I’m sure if I was a mean person I could have easily made him mean. The one I own now probably wouldn’t bite a person unless they were really asking for it. I don’t blame the dog, but I do contend that certain breeds definitely have a propensity.
If 9mm's could jump off the couch without any help and kill a child, they would have been banned a century ago. Do you have any other senseless comparisons to make?Sure, sure, sure.
And 9mm is responsible for more deaths and wounds than any other caliber so we should ban that too.
Yeah, there are a few breed more aggressive and a little easier for an adult to kick to the curb but could easily take down a child.
Well, they aren't hospitalizing and killing people, so..... are those other breeds in the room with us now?
I don't believe it's entirely senseless.
If we were talking about feral packs of dogs I'd give you a point for that.
Owners make a difference in both cases. Negligent discharges, loaded guns within reach of a curious hand ...
You really are funny. You only want to push data points to the extreme that back your opinion. Very liberal of you.
