I am not. There are online legal dictionaries, I do not need to provide a definition of harm, it is a ridiculous ploy.Swing and a miss.
Don't play coy.
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I am not. There are online legal dictionaries, I do not need to provide a definition of harm, it is a ridiculous ploy.Swing and a miss.
Don't play coy.
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Again. I ask. What makes speeding an arrestable offense?If that's your take on what I wrote, this will almost certainly help you.... As was said, your argument is over.
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I told you several posts ago. You need to read more than you type. You'll be far better off than you are pushing a stupid position.Again. I ask. What makes speeding an arrestable offense?
Good Lord. Please please go back and read what I have written. Then copy and paste where I said that there should NOT be any penalty.
The education of some of you is seriously lacking.
Here I just copied and pasted what you said for the second time you state there should NOT be any penalty if no one has been hurt or property damage. Perhaps you forgot what you just wrote in the last 15 minutes.They have absolutely no reason to make it arrestable offense if no one has been hurt or property damage.
Clearly you've dodged the question and intent.I am not. There are online legal dictionaries, I do not need to provide a definition of harm, it is a ridiculous ploy.
There was no property damage or physical injury. A crime has to be committed for a legal arrest.Here I just copied and pasted what you said for the second time you state there should NOT be any penalty if no one has been hurt or property damage. Perhaps you forgotwhat you just wrote in the last 15 minutes.
Unfucking believable. Absolutely no where does it say that there should be NO penalty.Here I just copied and pasted what you said for the second time you state there should NOT be any penalty if no one has been hurt or property damage. Perhaps you forgotwhat you just wrote in the last 15 minutes.
I will help you as you seem to have forgotten what you said.Many more are injured in the bathtub. WTF makes this an arrestable offense?
Nobody is harmed by someone stepping over the border. None. At all. Ever. Just as there is with speeding. Yet you want them arrested. But someone driving at a reckless speed is immune from arrest because why? Both crimes pose POTENTIAL harm. And speeding involves potential fatalities, much much worse. How is one arrest ok and the other not? By your argument, in both cases we should wait until actual harm is caused.And there's the problem. Arrestable offense when zero people or property were harmed.
Conformity regulations!!
Better check your verbage.I will help you as you seem to have forgotten what you said.
Nobody is harmed by someone stepping over the border. None. At all. Ever. Just as there is with speeding. Yet you want them arrested. But someone driving at a reckless speed is immune from arrest because why? Both crimes pose POTENTIAL harm. And speeding involves potential fatalities, much much worse. How is one arrest ok and the other not? By your argument, in both cases we should wait until actual harm is caused.
Here is what you fail to grasp:Unfucking believable. Absolutely no where does it say that there should be NO penalty.
It says that it should not be an arrestable offense.
Read it really slow this time. As a matter of fact in another post of mine I stated that there's already a varying penalty for the offense.
I have found the bottom of the hide's intellect.
Would this apply to the government?Here is what you fail to grasp:
You solely don’t get to choose what laws you are going to obey.
They are not an American citizen, therefore do not share our bill of rights.Nobody is harmed by someone stepping over the border.
Go back and listen to the video where the officer says it is an arrestable offense and that is because it is a crime in Georgia. Maybe not in the state where you live, but in GA where this happened it is an arrestable offense…There was no property damage or physical injury. A crime has to be committed for a legal arrest.
A crime consists of property damage or physical injury.
Speeding is not a crime, Reckless driving as well.
Better check your verbage.
Taken into custody for deportation. Arrested for a traffic infraction.
I'm out. There's truth to that saying about arguing with idiots. I've been drug down as far as I care to go.
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This is the most succinct and amazing response I’ve read since the invention of the internet.Why would I have my own?
This is solely due to indoctrination and compliance of unjust law.You solely don’t get to choose what laws you are going to obey. If a 100+, which is reckless driving IS ON THE BOOKS as an arrestable offense, then that person goes to jail, it just doesn’t matter what you or I think, it’s the way it is, legally as an enforceable offense. It does not matter what you think as a singular person…
Tis not.Go back and listen to the video where the officer says it is an arrestable offense and that is because it is a crime in Georgia. Maybe not in the state where you live, but in GA where this happened it is an arrestable offense…
Better check your verbage.
Taken into custody for deportation. Arrested for a traffic infraction.
I'm out. There's truth to that saying about arguing with idiots. I've been drug down as far as I care to go.
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Wow. You really need to brush up a bit there. That is by far the most uneducated thing I have seen posted on this site. And THAT is saying something.They are not an American citizen, therefore do not share our bill of rights.
They are not an American citizen, therefore do not share our bill of rights.
Bingoarrests noncitizens
It’s clear after four pages of being opposed you just want to be argumentative.It's easier to just admit you don't have an answer
Would you rather have no laws or penalties and everyone just does what pops in their head, regardless of consequences to anyone else?
In this thread, concerning this stop in GA, you have not posted a single time, where the guy stopped going in excess of 100+ did anything wrong. You have beat to death that he was wrongfully incarcerated for 16 years and that somehow gives him a pass going forward to NOT obey laws or permit himself to be arrested as he won’t get justice this time or anytime.Where did I argue that?
Congrats on your full indoctrination.Wow. You really need to brush up a bit there. That is by far the most uneducated thing I have seen posted on this site. And THAT is saying something.
So if legislature passes a law that bans guns, and police go door to door, you handing yours over? .......or are you gonna "change the law"
No legislature is going to get rid of a law that generates them millions in revenue each year.
FactsWhen the flow of traffic is doing 80 and you are doing 55, you are the danger.
I'm going the speed of surrounding traffic, because the risk of being rear ended is higher than the risk of getting a ticket.
Please do enlighten everyone here how non-citizens have no constitutional rights.Congrats on your full indoctrination.
PS .... did you read my quote on your post from the other thread? Where you spoke of united?
Yea, Ima dumb fawker.
Minor correction......I do get to choose which laws I will obey and which ones I'm not.You solely don’t get to choose what laws you are going to obey
Tis not.
The bill of rights resides in the constitution.
The supreme law of the land.
EDIT: I did note that when I did watch. I do not agree to it.
Know your rights and stand on them.
Speeding? This cop is acting like he just caught Timothy McVeigh.
He had three prior convictions for armed robbery, with the third conviction resulting in a life sentence before it was vacated/reversed on appeal and he was released. It was determined he was "wrongfully convicted."
I am inclined to believe he was wrongfully exonerated. It was established he did two armed robberies and if you watch and listen to the footage, he is trying to throttle the cop while saying, "yeah bitch, yeah bitch!" just before he died.
So he was properly convicted of two armed robberies, "wrongfully" convicted of a third armed robbery, and was shot while trying to murder a deputy. He wasn't an upstanding citizen and he won't be missed by anybody of consequence.
Incidentally, given how he lived, he probably did the third armed robbery and plenty of other crimes they simply never charged him with. He was a lifelong career violent criminal and he died as he lived, violently.
It is honestly for the best that he died before he was able to resume his lifelong crime spree and probably progress to killing somebody.
Assuming he was wrongfully convicted of the third armed robbery, he was rightly convicted of the first two armed robberies. He made a living by putting guns to people to take their stuff. I would say his karma finally caught up with him.
...based on what evidence?...oh right, none....
Funny that the same prosecutors office that sent him to jail also petitioned for his release....
But yeah, I'm sure you with your 0 evidence is correct, they let this guy out for funzies.
...based on what evidence?...oh right, none....
Funny that the same prosecutors office that sent him to jail also petitioned for his release....
But yeah, I'm sure you with your 0 evidence is correct, they let this guy out for funzies.
Sorry but everything after this line is complete and utter bullshit...
Committing a crime and serving your sentence automatically makes you guilty of all future crimes, even ones that have been proven you didnt do?
Go fuck yourself.
Why not just shoot everyone in the head any time they break a law.....they might as well be guilty for terrorism by your logic.
"Download a movie from the Internet? Yeah youre probably the type to murder babies as well asshole!"
Imagine holding someone's past crimes over their head for the rest of their lives, after already atoning for them...and then being shocked when they eventually resort to violence.
What's the point in atoning for your crimes at that point?.....why wouldn't I just say "fuck it" and take my chances if you arent going to give me a path to redemption?
So long as they go home safe at night they can harass the citizens as much as they want?
Imagine having the belief that unless you believe in a police state you have to support BLM
Bootlickers gonna boot lick I guess
Yeah....good shoot....let's send an innocent man to prison for 16 years....then harass him for bullshit, and threaten to send him back to jail...and then be surprised when he resists...
But yeah....good shoot.
Call me old fashioned, but if you served time for a crime you didn't commit, I think you get a pass on speeding...if he even was in fact, speeding.
Ah yes....because his last trip to court ended up so well for him.....
Oh wait....no it didn't.....he was sentenced to 16 yrs for a crime he didn't commit.
After going what he went through, why would he have any faith in the justice system? Or feel like he could get a fair trial?
I honestly can't blame the guy
If you just escaped a prison sentence...
And you genuinely thought a corrupt govt was going to find another way to get you back behind bars for good, what would you do?...no sane person would trust the court system that failed them once, and now seems like it has a personal motive to fail them again.
I knew it....sovcit/shithouse lawyerThere was no property damage or physical injury. A crime has to be committed for a legal arrest.
A crime consists of property damage or physical injury.
Speeding is not a crime, Reckless driving as well.
Who do I call when it's a cop zipping down the road at 100 ?
Or when its a cop sticking a gun in my daughter's face?
Here’s the thing. You will not admit that he did anything wrong. He got out of his vehicle defiant. Defied three commands from the officer. Tried to kill the officer and your answer to all this is speeding tickets are only in place to generate revenue and little if nothing to do with public safety.So long as they go home safe at night they can harass the citizens as much as they want?
Imagine having the belief that unless you believe in a police state you have to support BLM
Bootlickers gonna boot lick I guess
Who do I call when it's a cop zipping down the road at 100 ?
Or when its a cop sticking a gun in my daughter's face?
You live in a fantasy of falsehood absolutes. All cops drive 90 mphImagine having the belief that unless you believe in a police state you have to support BLM
Woops now the cops are driving a 100 mph… That we live in a police state if we obey the laws, you have so much bitterness and prejudice you cannot even admit when this guy tries to kill the cop that it was wrong.Who do I call when it's a cop zipping down the road at 100 ?
Aaaand in all those words, some how not a single point was made
If you were smart enough to read, you would've seen I held him responsible several times in this thread.
.....the argument is whether the officer/state is also responsible.
Yeah that's not what any of those words mean.
Anarchist bootlicker is an oxymoron.
Also, why would I advocate for anything other than abject liberty for myself?....how is that in my best interest?
It's up to you to convince me why I should be arrested for speeding, while the cop that arrested me is also going to speed with 0 repercussions.....and so far you have not even come close to giving a reason why I should find that acceptable
No it’s not my responsibility to convince you. You can try to convince the judge and/or jury when you get arrested for speeding as you call it when you are going 100+, which again in many states would be considered reckless which carries more severe penalties. Make sure and use your whataboutism with the judge/jury that the cops speed on duty and after they’re off and see how successful you are with your outcome.It's up to you to convince me why I should be arrested for speeding, while the cop that arrested me is also going to speed with 0 repercussions.....and so far you have not even come close to giving a reason why I should find that acceptable
I was stopped by a sheriff’s deputy in September 2018 for apparently going 49 mph in a 35 mph zone within 300 feet of my house. I was returning from the hospital emergency room where I had been discharged and the pharmacy where I had filled my prescription.
I held my hands out the window with my license and concealed carry card and offered them to him when he approached. He asked me “where is your pistol?” and I said, “I have multiple pistols, one on my right hip and another in a compartment next to the steering wheel."
He said, “Do you know how fast you were going?”
I replied, “Well I’m a trial attorney and I know better than to make a party admission but no, I have no clue.”
He said, “You were going 49 miles per hour in a 35 mile per hour zone.”
I said, “I don’t know if I was or wasn’t, I honestly can’t say how fast I was going, I really don’t know, I’m exhausted and want to get home, if you say I was doing 49 then I probably was and it is entirely possibly.”
He then asked, “you seem very unfocused and confused, what is wrong with you?”
I said, “I was just discharged from the hospital, I am miserably ill and sick.” [severe flu and possible Lyme disease, Lyme disease tests ultimately came back negative]
He asked, “why are you even out right now?”
I then said, “I am literally coming back from the hospital. I have my discharge papers on the passenger seat next to my prescription from the pharmacy, and I’m going home to go to sleep, which incidentally if you check my address we are almost within eyesight of my house. If you want to see my discharge papers I can hand them to you.”
He then said, “Sir, are you aware you’re subject to a restraining order and can’t be in possession of a firearm, step out of the vehicle please, I’m going to take your guns.”
I said, “Okay, but respectfully officer, that isn’t correct, I am not subject to any restraining order, I am the protected party of a restraining order issued in my protection against a stalker who is restrained for my protection.”
I stepped out, he took and unloaded my pistols, and then I asked, “may I get the restraining order paperwork from my glove box and show you the time-stamped document with the court seal which clearly shows me as the petitioner and the other individual as the respondent?” he said, “yes, get your paperwork.”
I handed him the papers, he said he was going to call the court which he did, he then verified, “okay I either read the entry on the computer wrong or somebody entered it in wrong, the clerk just verified what you said, you’re not subject to a restraining order.”
He then returned both of my pistols to me.
During his securing and unloading of my second pistol [at the time he took it] he ejected the round from the chamber into the weeds by the side of the road and he wasn’t able to immediately find it. He now spent about four or five minutes looking for the cartridge, apologized that it was apparently lost, and I said, “I wouldn’t fret too much, it is just a single round of ammunition.”
He then said, “Well, I’m real sorry about that and the misunderstanding on the restraining order. I’m not going to give you a ticket because you’re almost home and you seem really ill, so you should probably just go home, take the medicine, and go to sleep. I hope you feel better and have a better day and are doing better tomorrow."
I said, “that has been my plan the whole time.”
The encounter then ended.
Nobody was killed, maimed, beaten, tazed, maced, or even arrested. It may have helped that I didn’t vault out of my vehicle and scream and shout, “you’re fucking wrong mother-fucker, ain’t no restraining order on me, I didn’t do shit! You ain’t taking shit!"
Imagine that, nobody was killed, I was calm, he let me explain my perspective on the misunderstanding, he looked at my papers, he contacted the court, he apologized for the mistake, returned my pistols to me, he even knelt down and tried to find my round of ammunition, and then he wished me well and told me to go home.
Ah yes, famous philosopher....Benito Mussolini....
Funny because to date no one has told me why if it's "so dangerous to speed" why cops are doing it regularly
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