POF Rogue Rebarreling

[TheWatchMker]

I thought POF had an accuracy guarantee?

Their accuracy guarantee is an MOA Guarantee.

When I called they explained that it’s 3 shots at 50 yards. Doesn’t have to be 3 consecutive shots and there’s no limit on the number of shots.

So basically worthless.

Also I’ve had two barrels provided by them, both with poor accuracy and they both closed on a field no go gauge.

 

[sheepdog697]

Their accuracy guarantee is an MOA Guarantee.

When I called they explained that it’s 3 shots at 50 yards. Doesn’t have to be 3 consecutive shots and there’s no limit on the number of shots.

So basically worthless.

Also I’ve had two barrels provided by them, both with poor accuracy and they both closed on a field no go gauge.

That's ridiculous

 

[kthomas]

You know what’s funny, Juan, the customer service guy also said they could ship my rifle direct back to me, “since I already own it”
Which I thought was wrong as well.

I told him I’m grandfathered in and my state won’t let me ship out and then bring it back through an ffl. It’s a dumb rule but that’s what every ffl I have talked to has said.


I asked to buy an extension originally they told me no but I ended up just getting it rebarreled while it was getting the bcg replaced. Cost me 275 for the barrel and I asked for the fluted nitride barrel which only came in revolution and so I had to get the handguard too.

Ended up being 450 bucks, totally wasn’t worth it.

A manufacturer can send a rifle directly to your house once you own the rifle and have gone through the initial 4473 process.

 

[TheWatchMker]

A manufacturer can send a rifle directly to your house once you own the rifle and have gone through the initial 4473 process.

yup, got this figured.

 

[TheWatchMker]

So PVA still has the barrel they messed up and need to fix but I would like to shoot some matches this summer with this gun.
After a few calls and an email with no response, I’m looking to find someone else to make the barrel. Shouldn’t take a year to get a barrel.

So I’ve made up another barrel extension and I’m looking for who to pick.

McGowen says they can get it done in a few weeks, are they reliable with this kinda thing? I’ve seen some bad reviews but don’t know if that’s a thing of the past?

 

[kthomas]

So PVA still has the barrel they messed up and need to fix but I would like to shoot some matches this summer with this gun.
After a few calls and an email with no response, I’m looking to find someone else to make the barrel. Shouldn’t take a year to get a barrel.

So I’ve made up another barrel extension and I’m looking for who to pick.

McGowen says they can get it done in a few weeks, are they reliable with this kinda thing? I’ve seen some bad reviews but don’t know if that’s a thing of the past?

I would look into Craddock's RTR barrels. A few options in stock.

 

[TheWatchMker]

I would look into Craddock's RTR barrels. A few options in stock.

i need a custom extension put on the barrel, they wont work.

 

[LRRPF52]

The POF small frame .308s have unique barrel extensions with different teeth spacing for the bolt lugs.

The extractor is wide and required one of the extension lugs to be deleted. It’s also made from AerMet, to my recollection.

I went over all the unique parts with Frank (POF owner, RIP) at SHOT Show when he debuted the Revolution.

 

[TheWatchMker]

The POF small frame .308s have unique barrel extensions with different teeth spacing for the bolt lugs.

The extractor is wide and required one of the extension lugs to be deleted. It’s also made from AerMet, to my recollection.

I went over all the unique parts with Frank (POF owner, RIP) at SHOT Show when he debuted the Revolution.

Yeah I have 2 extensions machined up and ready, just need to put them barrels.

 

[LRRPF52]

Yeah I have 2 extensions machined up and ready, just need to put them barrels.

What alloy were they machined from and were they heat-treated?

With the AerMet bolt, you really want an equally-strong barrel extension or else the bolt will win if there's a catastrophic event, and the extension teeth will let go, or the extension will circumferentially fracture.

 

[TheWatchMker]

What alloy were they machined from and were they heat-treated?

With the AerMet bolt, you really want an equally-strong barrel extension or else the bolt will win if there's a catastrophic event, and the extension teeth will let go, or the extension will circumferentially fracture.

I appreciate that.

From Aermet and heat treated same as the original.

 

[kthomas]

i need a custom extension put on the barrel, they wont work.

Maybe this is a service d.wilson can perform? @unclemoak

 

[TheWatchMker]

Ended up getting a shilen blank in 6.5 and machining it myself. Came out really good. Ironically that was 3 weeks ago and my pva barrel got finished this last week. I got it from them Saturday. So that said… I won’t be putting it in as I’ve already developed a load for my 6.5 and so this barrel will go on in the winter.

Good news, the 6.5 shoots sub moa so I’m happy about that. Just shot it out to 1060 this weekend in my match.

Thanks for coming along fellas. I have matches the next two weekends so in a few weeks. I’ll get some group pics for yall.

 

[TheWatchMker]

Also interesting note. I used an XFR gun to scan the extension and see what metal it was made of.

It turns out it’s plain 8620

So POF extensions are AR-15 extensions threaded to 13/16-16tpi and then one lug machined out of it.

So if anyone on here had interest in getting their own extension.

They can be bought
From here https://triuneprecision.com/product/ar15-big-bore-barrel-extension/

And then a single lug needs to be machined out of it.

Was very easy to do.

 

[padom]

I went down this route with POF MANY MANY years ago with my P308. Great gun, shot excellent, was only 16". I searched hi and low to find someone to rebarrel it to a 20". Other than getting full custom machining and expensive, GAP was the only option and they would only do it if converted to DI from piston...

I sold that thing a long time ago, picked up a MEGA set and havent looked back. SSSSOOO much cheaper and so many options. Best move I ever made.

 

[TheWatchMker]

I went down this route with POF MANY MANY years ago with my P308. Great gun, shot excellent, was only 16". I searched hi and low to find someone to rebarrel it to a 20". Other than getting full custom machining and expensive, GAP was the only option and they would only do it if converted to DI from piston...

I sold that thing a long time ago, picked up a MEGA set and havent looked back. SSSSOOO much cheaper and so many options. Best move I ever made.

This is a small frame large bore gun. So 308 mag well in an AR-15 frame.

So different than what everyone else sells

 

[padom]

This is a small frame large bore gun. So 308 mag well in an AR-15 frame.

So different than what everyone else sells

I understand but your proprietary POF extension/barrel issues are still the same and what I was referring to.

 

[Ape_Factory]

I just had my Revolution DI re-barreled (chamber too long) by POF and it had quite a few rounds through it, close to 5,000. Was actually a fairly quick turn-around too. I had some other work done (cerakote) which delayed it by a few weeks. But fairly painless process and the barrel was covered under the lifetime warranty. Pretty much shot right out of the box with the new barrel although the chamber's a bit tight. I have no illusion it's as good a barrel as something made from one of the better barrel companies and I may look down that rabbit hole at some point. I did scope it and everything looks decent. But thanks for posting up the info on the extensions, greatly appreciated!

The Rogue/Revolutions are pretty damn light. I've built lighter AR's in 5.56 but it's as light as my 16" Recce-style build that has a carbon fiber hand guard.

 

[donwin]

I’m another POF Rogue owner and I can’t get accuracy down. Most ammo shoots 4+ moa on my rifle a few types of ammo is 2moa. I am following this thread closely as POF won’t sell me a new barrel or different barrel.

My dream is to have a 18-19in medium or pencil barrel rifle length gas.

Thanks for everyone’s hard work and research on this!

 

[Ape_Factory]

I’m another POF Rogue owner and I can’t get accuracy down. Most ammo shoots 4+ moa on my rifle a few types of ammo is 2moa. I am following this thread closely as POF won’t sell me a new barrel or different barrel.

My dream is to have a 18-19in medium or pencil barrel rifle length gas.

Thanks for everyone’s hard work and research on this!

Have you tried taking the barrel nut off and re-torquing it to spec? Same with the muzzle device. I'm a "less is more" kind of guy when it comes to muzzle devices and I'd rather torque at a lower rating and use Rocksett. I'd also go through everything else on the gun and make sure it's to specification. This is absolutely mandatory in the Sig world and literally the first suggestion to anyone seeking accuracy advice with their Sig rifle. QC is real.

Is our scope mounted to the upper receiver only? It's not bridging the gap between the hand guard and upper receiver, correct?

I also find that most reasonably-priced factory loads suck. Not all. Hand loads are almost always better. If you have some sort of chrono device to measure MV, SD and ES, it can tell you whether it's the barrel or the bullets so to speak. I had one barrel on my bolt gun that just would not group. Horrific in fact. Once I started measuring, I realized it was the cartridge and not the barrel. I switched to a different cartridge and immediately started grouping well. By that point I'd already purchased a high dollar barrel and once it arrived, I swapped it out because this is the SH way. I'm breaking in my POF barrel on the Revolution now and using Winchester UMC ammo which is about $27/box locally (aka cheap by today's standards). My MV's are varying by as much as 100fps or more. That's pretty inconsistent velocity and it translates into the resulting groups.

A gun buddy once cut a Winchester bullet in half for me. The lot was grouping really bad. With the bullet's innards exposed, there was a large void at the bottom right if I remember correctly. This would have a negative impact on accuracy/precision. I posted it up here and believe I called it "Don't blame the rifle."

Lastly, and this is a rabbit hole, scope the barrel with a videoscope and see if you have any anomalies like a severely eroded gas port or one that's built up a lot of copper. Check the crown as well as the lands. Lastly, add a bunch of weight to the rifle and see if it shoots better. Not sure what the trigger weight is on the Rogue. On the Revolution it's 4lbs, duty weight. Going to a lighter trigger is the easy solution but practice is probably the better answer.

 

[donwin]

Have you tried taking the barrel nut off and re-torquing it to spec? Same with the muzzle device. I'm a "less is more" kind of guy when it comes to muzzle devices and I'd rather torque at a lower rating and use Rocksett. I'd also go through everything else on the gun and make sure it's to specification. This is absolutely mandatory in the Sig world and literally the first suggestion to anyone seeking accuracy advice with their Sig rifle. QC is real.

Is our scope mounted to the upper receiver only? It's not bridging the gap between the hand guard and upper receiver, correct?

I also find that most reasonably-priced factory loads suck. Not all. Hand loads are almost always better. If you have some sort of chrono device to measure MV, SD and ES, it can tell you whether it's the barrel or the bullets so to speak. I had one barrel on my bolt gun that just would not group. Horrific in fact. Once I started measuring, I realized it was the cartridge and not the barrel. I switched to a different cartridge and immediately started grouping well. By that point I'd already purchased a high dollar barrel and once it arrived, I swapped it out because this is the SH way. I'm breaking in my POF barrel on the Revolution now and using Winchester UMC ammo which is about $27/box locally (aka cheap by today's standards). My MV's are varying by as much as 100fps or more. That's pretty inconsistent velocity and it translates into the resulting groups.

A gun buddy once cut a Winchester bullet in half for me. The lot was grouping really bad. With the bullet's innards exposed, there was a large void at the bottom right if I remember correctly. This would have a negative impact on accuracy/precision. I posted it up here and believe I called it "Don't blame the rifle."

Lastly, and this is a rabbit hole, scope the barrel with a videoscope and see if you have any anomalies like a severely eroded gas port or one that's built up a lot of copper. Check the crown as well as the lands. Lastly, add a bunch of weight to the rifle and see if it shoots better. Not sure what the trigger weight is on the Rogue. On the Revolution it's 4lbs, duty weight. Going to a lighter trigger is the easy solution but practice is probably the better answer.

Thanks for checking in. The factory barrel nut was removed and replaced with an aftermarket by a gunsmith. Groups were the same.

Groups from 168gr ELDM,~ 1.25moa in a Ruger “control” rifle, however the same ammo groups 2.5in on the Rogue. Groups from M80 ball, that are 2.5moa on the control rifle are 4.5moa on the Rogue. This is off sand bags and a bench.

I am not looking for 1 moa accuracy. I just want comparable accuracy to an off the rack Ruger.

Stock trigger was scaled at 4.5# Trigger is now a Timney 3.5#.

Barrel devices have been swapped and torqued over the years with minimal change in accuracy.

The stock barrel has had ~2000 rounds thru it. I have not scoped it and I likely will now that you mention it.

Almost every stone has been turned except getting a different barrel for it.

 

[Ape_Factory]

Sorry to hear and it sounds like you went through it thoroughly. Scoping the barrel can be a bit of a "maybe" answer, it's almost never definitive. Will still be interesting to see what it looks like none the less.

 

[TheWatchMker]

I’m another POF Rogue owner and I can’t get accuracy down. Most ammo shoots 4+ moa on my rifle a few types of ammo is 2moa. I am following this thread closely as POF won’t sell me a new barrel or different barrel.

My dream is to have a 18-19in medium or pencil barrel rifle length gas.

Thanks for everyone’s hard work and research on this!

Im currently getting another barrel made by Mos-tek, with triune extension(lug machined off like i mentioned).

ill let you know when it comes in how it shoots.

figured i have all the information, might as well try and build some more uppers for it since i can finally have ones that shoot lights out.
not to mention, i cant buy any more "evil" ars so just have to have an upper for every want.

ill also be dropping a 3d model on grabcad of the extension, barrel nut and of the upper(once i finish modeling it).

maybe someone will take it and run a batch of them... never know.

 

[TheWatchMker]

also worth noting
Sfar extension and Pof extension are different.

ive heard from multiple people in my Dms that they have also had a bad headspaced barrel on their factory POF.
take that with whatever grain of salt you want.

i wont be modeling the bcg as they sell spares of that.

 

[Ape_Factory]

Im currently getting another barrel made by Mos-tek, with triune extension(lug machined off like i mentioned).

ill let you know when it comes in how it shoots.

figured i have all the information, might as well try and build some more uppers for it since i can finally have ones that shoot lights out.
not to mention, i cant buy any more "evil" ars so just have to have an upper for every want.

ill also be dropping a 3d model on grabcad of the extension, barrel nut and of the upper(once i finish modeling it).

maybe someone will take it and run a batch of them... never know.

YOU SIR, are awesome. The XRF gun sounded cool and I thought, man, it's probably the same cost as an Amazon bore scope and I can have one tomorrow with Prime shipping! Whelp, just about fell over and may have even pee'd a bit when I saw the price. But you can actually buy them and have them delivered via the Bezos bus. Kinda nuts.

 

[TheWatchMker]

YOU SIR, are awesome. The XRF gun sounded cool and I thought, man, it's probably the same cost as an Amazon bore scope and I can have one tomorrow with Prime shipping! Whelp, just about fell over and may have even pee'd a bit when I saw the price. But you can actually buy them and have them delivered via the Bezos bus. Kinda nuts.

Hahaha thanks amigo, I love that bezos sells them. He’ll sell you anything not bolted to the floor seems like.

It’s a bit on the pricey side of things, basically a handheld x-ray machine.

Nice to have some toys to make the job easy.
I’ll be using the scanner for modeling the upper. That’s another one worth its weight in gold.

 

[TheWatchMker]

here we are alittle over a month later from when I ordered my Mos-tek barrel and first shots fired today.

Put up 5 groups of 10x for .75” average.

Unfortunately it was a busy day on the range so I didn’t get pictures but I will.

Shooting 139gr lapua scenars, 41.5 h4130 and starline brass. 2750 out of a 24” barrel.

Shout out to the Mostek team for turning it around super fast.
used a triune extension with a lug machined off and they headspaced it to my bolt which I configured with gauges.

Also realized I never posted my 18” so here that is.

I’ve started modeling the upper and I’m hoping to have it done and tested by November.

Currently weighs 12lb 4oz as it sits

 

[bigfoot750]

Great work. Glad it’s working out for you

 

[Ape_Factory]

Good-looking gun and good timing! I went out to the range today as well despite the fact we hit 100 degrees Fahrenheit today. Would likely explain why I was the only guy out there for most of the day and the only one on the 100 yard line.

I had my barrel replaced by POF after I determined the headspace on my old barrel was out of specification and too large. That barrel shot really well though and when you hand load, and can set the appropriate head space, you're good. Rifle is a Revolution DI and it's the standard 16" barrel.

New barrel comes in and my initial look through it with a bore scope was positive. I began breaking the barrel in and honestly, nothing was super tight. Mostly 2-3 MOA. Took out the bore scope again and noticed the gas port was not in between lands and there was now quite a bit of tool chatter present that I didn't notice before. But I kept at it, cleaning, shooting a few, cleaning, shooting more, etc...until I was up around 50-60 shots. Still not grouping great like the old barrel.

Today I went out with the rifle to test a few things. First, a new suppressor, the Radical Defense CS3, against its big brother, the LS3. Second, a new Tubbs buffer spring (thanks for the tip!) and different buffer weights. I brought along an H, H1 and H2. My goal was to eliminate my brass being torn up, shaving material off the base. I did clean it prior to going and the gas port is spotless, even before cleaning. No buildup of copper whatsoever.

I ended up putting 70 rounds exactly down the barrel, hot as dog's balls outside, mirage from hell, and wind as strong as a god's fart. And no great groups. My brass WAS better, the gun was functioning really well and ejecting brass at 4 o'clock once the gas was dialed in. Ok so maybe it's a 2MOA gun on a good day. Fine. I mean I'm using off-the-shelf PMC so maybe hand loads will improve the situation, right?

On a whim, I decided to swap to the H1 buffer just to see if it would clean up my brass a touch more. Stock is H, and I wanted to see if the Tubb flat wire spring would have an effect on its own.

Well, that did the trick. Group on the left was I dunno, was 11 or 12 shots. I'd basically used up all my ammo loaded into mags by then and I wanted to see what the barrel would do when good and hot. I had a partial box of ammo left. I loaded one round to see if the bolt would lock back and it did. So no gas adjustment. I put five more rounds in the mag and they all pretty much went through the same hole, group on the right. First shot is the one to the bottom left of that group. The rest were all shot at once, like one every second or two. I was shocked to say the least. Not saying I can do that every time I go out but I now have high hopes for the barrel and will develop loads from here. The X-Tac Match uses the Sierra 168 HPBT which I believe is a secant ogive and thus jump sensitive. I've never had great luck with that style bullet in a gas gun. I use Sierra 169's in my bolt gun so I'm hoping I can develop a good load for the POF using the same bullet as it has a tangent ogive.

The brass does look far, far better than it has in the past. I'm tempted to try the H2 but I can't argue with the results especially given the environmental conditions today. The fifth piece of brass from the left has a raised portion but not nearly as bad as in the past. The others are all smooth despite having visible marks. And yes, it does this to ANY ammo, factory loads of various types and all my hand loads, none of which are spicy. The fact this thing is sub-7 pounds and can shoot like this is pretty amazing. I do have a Geissle trigger, a Riflespeed gas system and Magpul furniture. Rest of it is all POF off the shelf. The suppressor was a Radical Defense LS3 but I saw no difference in group size between it and a CS3 I brought along (shorter version). It's strange that not all the brass gets nicked. Some doesn't. I did chrono a bunch of the PMC and the standard deviation was 14.2 over nine shots in the last group I metered. Velocity ranged from high 2400's to low 2500's, bout a 50fps spread. The long string I did had a SD of 16.7 and a spread of 66.9 over 53 shots. Not horrible but not great.

Anyway, I'm just happy to have her back, functioning, with the hope of decent accuracy. I know it's common around here to dog on POF but I have to say, of the two I own, they're both exceptional rifles. Yes, the first barrel had a chamber issue but I shot that for years with great results. And I have to admit, I was a bit disappointed with how poorly the new one did out of the box, poor being relative, and I chalked it up to needing to be broken in. But the barrel was free, new bolt, they took apart the rifle, installed the new barrel, tested it WITH the Riflespeed gas block even, and sent it all back quite quickly. And it did absolutely function perfectly out of the box albeit still tearing up brass. I had a few extra things done (aka ODG cerakote) while there too. The chamber was initially tight but that's gone away. Thinking about the brass, I'm now under the belief that the E2 extraction/gas slots in the chamber are what cause this so there's no real way to tune it out but just lessen it a bit.

 

[TheWatchMker]

Good-looking gun and good timing! I went out to the range today as well despite the fact we hit 100 degrees Fahrenheit today. Would likely explain why I was the only guy out there for most of the day and the only one on the 100 yard line.

I had my barrel replaced by POF after I determined the headspace on my old barrel was out of specification and too large. That barrel shot really well though and when you hand load, and can set the appropriate head space, you're good. Rifle is a Revolution DI and it's the standard 16" barrel.

New barrel comes in and my initial look through it with a bore scope was positive. I began breaking the barrel in and honestly, nothing was super tight. Mostly 2-3 MOA. Took out the bore scope again and noticed the gas port was not in between lands and there was now quite a bit of tool chatter present that I didn't notice before. But I kept at it, cleaning, shooting a few, cleaning, shooting more, etc...until I was up around 50-60 shots. Still not grouping great like the old barrel.

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Today I went out with the rifle to test a few things. First, a new suppressor, the Radical Defense CS3, against its big brother, the LS3. Second, a new Tubbs buffer spring (thanks for the tip!) and different buffer weights. I brought along an H, H1 and H2. My goal was to eliminate my brass being torn up, shaving material off the base. I did clean it prior to going and the gas port is spotless, even before cleaning. No buildup of copper whatsoever.

I ended up putting 70 rounds exactly down the barrel, hot as dog's balls outside, mirage from hell, and wind as strong as a god's fart. And no great groups. My brass WAS better, the gun was functioning really well and ejecting brass at 4 o'clock once the gas was dialed in. Ok so maybe it's a 2MOA gun on a good day. Fine. I mean I'm using off-the-shelf PMC so maybe hand loads will improve the situation, right?

On a whim, I decided to swap to the H1 buffer just to see if it would clean up my brass a touch more. Stock is H, and I wanted to see if the Tubb flat wire spring would have an effect on its own.
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Well, that did the trick. Group on the left was I dunno, was 11 or 12 shots. I'd basically used up all my ammo loaded into mags by then and I wanted to see what the barrel would do when good and hot. I had a partial box of ammo left. I loaded one round to see if the bolt would lock back and it did. So no gas adjustment. I put five more rounds in the mag and they all pretty much went through the same hole, group on the right. First shot is the one to the bottom left of that group. The rest were all shot at once, like one every second or two. I was shocked to say the least. Not saying I can do that every time I go out but I now have high hopes for the barrel and will develop loads from here. The X-Tac Match uses the Sierra 168 HPBT which I believe is a secant ogive and thus jump sensitive. I've never had great luck with that style bullet in a gas gun. I use Sierra 169's in my bolt gun so I'm hoping I can develop a good load for the POF using the same bullet as it has a tangent ogive.
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The brass does look far, far better than it has in the past. I'm tempted to try the H2 but I can't argue with the results especially given the environmental conditions today. The fifth piece of brass from the left has a raised portion but not nearly as bad as in the past. The others are all smooth despite having visible marks. And yes, it does this to ANY ammo, factory loads of various types and all my hand loads, none of which are spicy. The fact this thing is sub-7 pounds and can shoot like this is pretty amazing. I do have a Geissle trigger, a Riflespeed gas system and Magpul furniture. Rest of it is all POF off the shelf. The suppressor was a Radical Defense LS3 but I saw no difference in group size between it and a CS3 I brought along (shorter version). It's strange that not all the brass gets nicked. Some doesn't. I did chrono a bunch of the PMC and the standard deviation was 14.2 over nine shots in the last group I metered. Velocity ranged from high 2400's to low 2500's, bout a 50fps spread. The long string I did had a SD of 16.7 and a spread of 66.9 over 53 shots. Not horrible but not great.
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Anyway, I'm just happy to have her back, functioning, with the hope of decent accuracy. I know it's common around here to dog on POF but I have to say, of the two I own, they're both exceptional rifles. Yes, the first barrel had a chamber issue but I shot that for years with great results. And I have to admit, I was a bit disappointed with how poorly the new one did out of the box, poor being relative, and I chalked it up to needing to be broken in. But the barrel was free, new bolt, they took apart the rifle, installed the new barrel, tested it WITH the Riflespeed gas block even, and sent it all back quite quickly. And it did absolutely function perfectly out of the box albeit still tearing up brass. I had a few extra things done (aka ODG cerakote) while there too. The chamber was initially tight but that's gone away. Thinking about the brass, I'm now under the belief that the E2 extraction/gas slots in the chamber are what cause this so there's no real way to tune it out but just lessen it a bit.

Thanks for the share bro.
I’m stoked for you to be back in business.

can’t hate POF for getting you squared away, pretty awesome they did it for free.

I love my POF, sometimes I’m annoyed with them but it’s definitely a kickass rifle.

Looks like some good numbers for factory ammo and I’m sure will only get better once you dial it in. Keep us updated on how tight you can get with the factory barrel.

 

[SCHMITTY769]

Hey @TheWatchMker, how did this turn out for you? I've been eyeing a Rogue for a few years now but haven't committed to the purchase yet on account of its spotty reputation. It would be great to hear that there were a 3rd party alternative available if POF can't make it right.

 

[TheWatchMker]

Hey @TheWatchMker, how did this turn out for you? I've been eyeing a Rogue for a few years now but haven't committed to the purchase yet on account of its spotty reputation. It would be great to hear that there were a 3rd party alternative available if POF can't make it right.

Awesome, Aaron over at Mos-tek is awesome. The barrel they did turned out great. Have 1000rds through it now and it’s a sub moa gun.

Shot a sniper match the week after my last post, ended up hiking 14 miles with it and having the light gun with the heavy barrel was wonderful. Made first round hits at 800yards and 1k which was fun for this guns first match. Placed 11th

 

[Tictacticaltimmy]

To summarize, is Mos-tek now setup to produce Revolution/Rogue barrels?

Like would I just order an ar10 barrel drom their site, send them my bcg for headspacing, and be good to go? No need to reuse a POF barrel extension?

 

[Ape_Factory]

I don't think so but I'll wait for TheWatchMaker to chime in. Go to their site and it'll be under Custom Barrels/Conversions.

Here's a direct link: https://mos-tek.com/product-category/barrel-conversions/

From there choose Rogue/Revolution.

Can spec barrels there but strangely enough, when you spec a .308, you can get a 1:9 twist or a 1:12 twist but not a 1:10 which is what I want. And then there's the checkbox that says orders take 28-32 weeks and the rifle needs to be sent in. And no idea what the profile would be.

My guess is they're reusing the extension.

 

[TheWatchMker]

To summarize, is Mos-tek now setup to produce Revolution/Rogue barrels?

Like would I just order an ar10 barrel drom their site, send them my bcg for headspacing, and be good to go? No need to reuse a POF barrel extension?

I provided an extension but they are producing 8.6 barrels for the rogue so you should be good to go.
I actually just checked on the site and looks like your good to go. You purchase a complete barrel from here.

https://mos-tek.com/product/pof-rogue-revolution-barrel-conversion/

 

[TheWatchMker]

I don't think so but I'll wait for TheWatchMaker to chime in. Go to their site and it'll be under Custom Barrels/Conversions.

Here's a direct link: https://mos-tek.com/product-category/barrel-conversions/

From there choose Rogue/Revolution.

Can spec barrels there but strangely enough, when you spec a .308, you can get a 1:9 twist or a 1:12 twist but not a 1:10 which is what I want. And then there's the checkbox that says orders take 28-32 weeks and the rifle needs to be sent in. And no idea what the profile would be.

My guess is they're reusing the extension.

Aaron is well aware of getting custom extensions. He knew before we discussed it and I sent him the specs of mine.
I’m sure they aren’t reusing extensions
My situation was unique on the time front and I paid a significant rush fee. Typically lead times is as shown.
The profile you can select. The rifle sending it in I imagine is just to make sure it functions and what not.
I called and talked to Aaron to explain my needs and I didn’t send the rifle and I sent my own extension in the interest of time.

They are super accommodating and you can call or email and they will hook you up.

 

[tyrider427]

This is a really awesome option! thanks for sharing

 

[Ape_Factory]

I've tried contacting them twice by email and didn't get any response. It's been weeks since my last attempt. I'll call later this week and see if they'll answer my questions by phone.

 

[Ape_Factory]

Got a response from them. They have 1:10 twist blanks now and are reworking their web page. They have drop-in options, no need to send the gun in but it is necessary to send the bolt in. They don't need to cannibalize the stock barrel extension either.

 

[TheWatchMker]

Got a response from them. They have 1:10 twist blanks now and are reworking their web page. They have drop-in options, no need to send the gun in but it is necessary to send the bolt in. They don't need to cannibalize the stock barrel extension either.

Awesome, love to hear it

 

[busse9213]

Awesome, love to hear it

How has your rifle been since this thread? I talked to arron at mos-Tec earlier I am going to send him my complete upper for them to re-barrel. I was actually thinking about going with the 7 mm 08 option.

 

[TheWatchMker]

How has your rifle been since this thread? I talked to arron at mos-Tec earlier I am going to send him my complete upper for them to re-barrel. I was actually thinking about going with the 7 mm 08 option.

Awesome, I just hit 1500 rds on it.

Still awesome