Range Report Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
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Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
You mean something other than this?
http://www.nkhome.com/kestrel/kestrel-BLUETOOTH/
You mean something other than this?
http://www.nkhome.com/kestrel/kestrel-BLUETOOTH/
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
I just put shooter into DA mode and type in the DA the Kestrel measures. Works for me. I wouldn't buy another Kestrel just to gain the connectivity. If I have to replace mine then yeah it would be nice.
I just put shooter into DA mode and type in the DA the Kestrel measures. Works for me. I wouldn't buy another Kestrel just to gain the connectivity. If I have to replace mine then yeah it would be nice.
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ECH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You mean something other than this?
http://www.nkhome.com/kestrel/kestrel-BLUETOOTH/ </div></div>
I think the problem is the fact that there's not an app available for the connection.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ECH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You mean something other than this?
http://www.nkhome.com/kestrel/kestrel-BLUETOOTH/ </div></div>
I think the problem is the fact that there's not an app available for the connection.
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
The reason you can't connect a Kestrel is because the Bluetooth module in the Kestrel itself is not approved by Apple. It is true there is not app that allows this, that is because the two will not pair. It's a hardware issue and the modules cost quite a bit more than a standard Bluetooth module. For Keatrel to add a more expensive module they must first know there is a demand. That's what I wanted to start this poll. If there are enough people wanting it I will interact with Kestrel on your guys behalf and push for this upgrade and if not I will keep plugging in the data along with everyone else.
The reason you can't connect a Kestrel is because the Bluetooth module in the Kestrel itself is not approved by Apple. It is true there is not app that allows this, that is because the two will not pair. It's a hardware issue and the modules cost quite a bit more than a standard Bluetooth module. For Keatrel to add a more expensive module they must first know there is a demand. That's what I wanted to start this poll. If there are enough people wanting it I will interact with Kestrel on your guys behalf and push for this upgrade and if not I will keep plugging in the data along with everyone else.
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
When you consider that the weather does not change by a measureable amount in the longest update time setting, and harldy changes enough to bother with over the course of an hour, why does a shooter need the feature at all?
Between loss of battery life and the time spent pairing and connecting the device, I could enter the data manually many times over.
When you consider that the weather does not change by a measureable amount in the longest update time setting, and harldy changes enough to bother with over the course of an hour, why does a shooter need the feature at all?
Between loss of battery life and the time spent pairing and connecting the device, I could enter the data manually many times over.
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Comanche</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The reason you can't connect a Kestrel is because the Bluetooth module in the Kestrel itself is not approved by Apple. It is true there is not app that allows this, that is because the two will not pair. It's a hardware issue and the modules cost quite a bit more than a standard Bluetooth module. For Keatrel to add a more expensive module they must first know there is a demand. That's what I wanted to start this poll. If there are enough people wanting it I will interact with Kestrel on your guys behalf and push for this upgrade and if not I will keep plugging in the data along with everyone else. </div></div>
At a high level correct, but not really. The issue is that Apple is concerned about security implications regarding bluetooth-over-serial connections. Therefore, Apple has chosen to leave out that part of the bluetooth stack. The Kestel device makes bluetooth-over-serial calls to either iphone or android device. Confirmed on jail-broken Iphone with 2 different complete bluetooth stacks. Sadly it boils down to Apple deciding "We don't need that functionality" ... I decided to try to go android (40.00) was worth the experiment.
To be honest, it connected and transmitted data, however it was pretty inconsistent. I also found the Iphone MUCH easier to read/magnify in bright sun.
My 27 cents.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Comanche</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The reason you can't connect a Kestrel is because the Bluetooth module in the Kestrel itself is not approved by Apple. It is true there is not app that allows this, that is because the two will not pair. It's a hardware issue and the modules cost quite a bit more than a standard Bluetooth module. For Keatrel to add a more expensive module they must first know there is a demand. That's what I wanted to start this poll. If there are enough people wanting it I will interact with Kestrel on your guys behalf and push for this upgrade and if not I will keep plugging in the data along with everyone else. </div></div>
At a high level correct, but not really. The issue is that Apple is concerned about security implications regarding bluetooth-over-serial connections. Therefore, Apple has chosen to leave out that part of the bluetooth stack. The Kestel device makes bluetooth-over-serial calls to either iphone or android device. Confirmed on jail-broken Iphone with 2 different complete bluetooth stacks. Sadly it boils down to Apple deciding "We don't need that functionality" ... I decided to try to go android (40.00) was worth the experiment.
To be honest, it connected and transmitted data, however it was pretty inconsistent. I also found the Iphone MUCH easier to read/magnify in bright sun.
My 27 cents.
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
I'm surprised there aren't more overall votes on this...
I'm surprised there aren't more overall votes on this...
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
As long as the phone has blue tooth and a compatible Ballistic calculator app, it should work.
As long as the phone has blue tooth and a compatible Ballistic calculator app, it should work.
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As long as the phone has blue tooth and a compatible Ballistic calculator app, it should work. </div></div>
Seems like no one can agree on this. Has anyone actually tried it?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As long as the phone has blue tooth and a compatible Ballistic calculator app, it should work. </div></div>
Seems like no one can agree on this. Has anyone actually tried it?
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SLO</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As long as the phone has blue tooth and a compatible Ballistic calculator app, it should work. </div></div>
Seems like no one can agree on this. Has anyone actually tried it? </div></div>
I have. NO go. The Kestrel is not APPLE MFi (Made For i-Phone) Bluetooth compatable.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SLO</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As long as the phone has blue tooth and a compatible Ballistic calculator app, it should work. </div></div>
Seems like no one can agree on this. Has anyone actually tried it? </div></div>
I have. NO go. The Kestrel is not APPLE MFi (Made For i-Phone) Bluetooth compatable.
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boomholzer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SLO</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As long as the phone has blue tooth and a compatible Ballistic calculator app, it should work. </div></div>
Seems like no one can agree on this. Has anyone actually tried it? </div></div>
I have. NO go. The Kestrel is not APPLE MFi (Made For i-Phone) Bluetooth compatable. </div></div>
Thanks! Not sure if i should be pissed at Kestrel or Apple!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boomholzer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SLO</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As long as the phone has blue tooth and a compatible Ballistic calculator app, it should work. </div></div>
Seems like no one can agree on this. Has anyone actually tried it? </div></div>
I have. NO go. The Kestrel is not APPLE MFi (Made For i-Phone) Bluetooth compatable. </div></div>
Thanks! Not sure if i should be pissed at Kestrel or Apple!
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
ok,i need some teaching.i know guys who use their iphones with shooter to get their dope but use their kestrels to get current weather conditions,BUT kestrel version with buildt in horus data pretty much elimanates the need for for iphone shooter right?if that's the case why would you need blue tooth hook up.just wondering excatly what the kestrel horus version actually does and why you would need a blue tooth hook up?
ok,i need some teaching.i know guys who use their iphones with shooter to get their dope but use their kestrels to get current weather conditions,BUT kestrel version with buildt in horus data pretty much elimanates the need for for iphone shooter right?if that's the case why would you need blue tooth hook up.just wondering excatly what the kestrel horus version actually does and why you would need a blue tooth hook up?
Re: Poll > Kestrel that's compatable with Iphone/Ipad
I think the biggest reason is cost. The Kestrel with built in Horus is quite a bit more expensive.
I think the biggest reason is cost. The Kestrel with built in Horus is quite a bit more expensive.
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