I have an old ass RL450... so, technically a zero play tool head 


Makes good ammo tho




Makes good ammo tho


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I load precision rifle on a Dillon 650 with Auto Drive.... Yes its possible, we have discussed this many times before, a search will yield our previous discussions. Floating the Dies is one of the keys, size on a second tool head..... . Autotrickler etc.......
All the best..........
Yeah it's common. Dillon dies are a little shorter than something like redding dies. I got my redding die shortened to get the right amount of bump.
I’ve been working on xl750 for 6.5CM reloading. I am using two tool heads.
Tool head 1:
Station 1: deprime
Station 2: nothing
Station 3: Forster FL sizing die without the expander ball
Station 4: nothing
Station 5: Sinclair expander mandrel.
I’m not sure if this is normal or not but in order to get 0.002 should bump, I have to advance the FL die all the way into the shellplate. It’s really jammed in. If I want to fully raise the ram at the upstroke without any case, I do have to put in decent amount of force. The FL die is jamming into the shellplate. I feel the same force when I’m sizing the case but I’m assuming that’s coming from sizing operation.
Can someone shed some light on this please??
Thank you for such quick reply. I’ll try it with a different brand of sizing die to see if it makes a difference. I’ll report back!I've got 2 XL650's and a 550 and at least 25+ toolheads between the 3..... of those 25, there has got to be at least 10-12 Forster FL sizing dies.... along with Redding, Wilson, SAC, Mighty Armory and Dillon.....
Not "common" at all as I've never had this issue... I load ALL of my ammo on these 3 presses and don't have to ram my dies down into the shellplate to get shoulder bump...
Thank you for such quick reply. I’ll try it with a different brand of sizing die to see if it makes a difference. If the other die doesn’t work, how did you shorten your die length?Yeah it's common. Dillon dies are a little shorter than something like redding dies. I got my redding die shortened to get the right amount of bump.
Thank you for such quick reply. I am not annealing at this current moment. My fire formed case shoulder measures at 1.500. I’m bumping to 1.498. I am using a Sinclair 30A bump gauge instead of the more common Hornady headspace comparator gauge.Are you annealing the brass before sizing? You can easily see .005-.007”+ difference in shoulder bump with and without annealing due to case hardness , depending how many times they’ve been fired.
You might also have a minimum spec chamber so the die has to be set down a little further than for a typical mass production rifle chamber.
I’ve been working on xl750 for 6.5CM reloading. I am using two tool heads.
Tool head 1:
Station 1: deprime
Station 2: nothing
Station 3: Forster FL sizing die without the expander ball
Station 4: nothing
Station 5: Sinclair expander mandrel.
I’m not sure if this is normal or not but in order to get 0.002 should bump, I have to advance the FL die all the way into the shellplate. It’s really jammed in. If I want to fully raise the ram at the upstroke without any case, I do have to put in decent amount of force. The FL die is jamming into the shellplate. I feel the same force when I’m sizing the case but I’m assuming that’s coming from sizing operation.
Can someone shed some light on this please??
I had this happen with a short action custom 6br die, the original dies not the modular series. I ended up having a machine shop shorten the die by a few thousandths (.005 if memory is right) and also radius the outside circumference so the die could sit in the recess of the shell plate. In hindsight, a radius in the outside circumference to sit in the shell plate recess would have given me all the depth I needed but I didn’t know it at the time. These are top notch dies so I have nothing negative to say about them, it just needing finessing for the 750 environment.
This issue did not appear when I changed to the 6br modular die.
Dillon shell plate and Armanov tool head if anyone was wondering.
No need to talk to Dillon since I made it work the way I wanted it to work. I assumed it was a one off issue (with something—shell plate, tool head or die) so I just fixed it to suit me.I'm legit using the SAC 6br original sizing die in my dillon. Just literally sized 100pc if lapua last night with it....Marc sent it to me when they first came out for review....never had to modify it at all and it's not rammed down in the shell plate..
I wonder if something changed with the 750 dimension wise....have you talked to Dillon??
I'm using Dillon shell plate and Whidden floating die toolhead