
☕️ COVID ULTIMATUM GUIDE ☙ Coffee & Covid ☙ Monday, October 11, 2021 🦠
A comprehensive guide for folks facing imminent "vaccinate or terminate" employment policies.

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Join the contestI wish there were more data on the J&J vaccine. There is NO WAY I'm taking the mRNA vaccines - NONE!!!!!! I don't know if J&J has the problem with prions and I sure the F am not messing with those. I don't want to be a vegetable in 10 years. Hell, then I may be buying Quigley Ford stuff and calling it ZCO.Normalcy bias.
I’m not judging either @BytorJr , I fully support everyone to choose this or not.
My caution would be the completely unknown long term effects (ignoring the somewhat better known quickly beginning effects some have experienced).
Research papers from some universities and labs has shown that the MRNA does not stay in your arm like was described. It gets into the bloodstream and lymph system and travels. It causes many more cells all over your body to create the spike proteins than was intended (or perhaps as intended?)
This research also shows that the proteins collect in certain parts of your body. Ovaries (unknown reproductive issues), capillaries (long term increase in BP and reduced blood flow), and kidneys/liver.
It has been shown that through several chemical reactions in the body to turn into or break down into several toxic compounds. Including a prion like particle. To me, the evidence that it has crossed the blood/brain barrier is the most troubling. Read up on prions and the brain if you want nightmares.
It also affects red blood cells ability to carry oxygen.
None of this will be fully known for years, because none of the long term tests were done. It is insane to push this so hard with all of the negative possibilities.
I know it has been posted but I had the virus back in April 2020 and yes it was awful (my wife and daughter were asymptomatic but had it) and I believe I still have issues created by the damage it caused. To purposely cause your body to make that spike outer shell in incredible numbers (much more proteins than having the actual virus) is madness.
My wife and I have incredible antibodies 18m later and have never masked, social distanced or been vaccinated. Here where we are, people just continued to live life normally. Natural immunity is immunity to the entire virus, every component, rather than just the shell.
The virus isn’t the killer, the spike protein causing so much micro damage is the killer (along with secondary infection like pneumonia).
I personally know several folks including my aunt and uncle who ended up in the hospital after the vax or booster. Myocarditis or stroke is not a joke with this, it is common.
Good luck. I know the prospect of losing your income and the fallout is deeply troubling.
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Only issue is, most of the questions refer to EUA version, I think I might edit the doc for what they consider the FDA “approved” versionEmployees Demand Employers Answer Their Forms
A very interesting turn of the tables as more employees at more companies began demanding the employer answer the questions on the form.
I wish there were more data on the J&J vaccine. There is NO WAY I'm taking the mRNA vaccines - NONE!!!!!! I don't know if J&J has the problem with prions and I sure the F am not messing with those. I don't want to be a vegetable in 10 years. Hell, then I may be buying Quigley Ford stuff and calling it ZCO.
As for writing. I asked the HR person for the exemptions. Oh, you have to get the form through the actual company you work for, not from us. So, I'm really not sure where that leaves me. My company (where the pay comes from) didn't even know about this!!!!!! All shady as hell IMO.
My nephew has been returned to duty but must work completely alone…on helicopters. He has been covering for the many who are vaccinated but out in quarantine for being sick. He has met again with the chaplain who processed his religious exemption request who showed him the real nature of today’s military.
Wow the left is sure compassionate.
I’m in the same boat currently….. National Guard finally issued guidance and the state NG finally pushed out their guidance as well. I am scheduled to get counseled on Tuesday in regards to this…. About to find out and see if 16 years of active duty service is about to go down the tubes …. Sucks because I joined the military at a late age, 36yo, so, building an alternate retirement plan isn’t really in the cardsMy nephew has been returned to duty but must work completely alone…on helicopters. He has been covering for the many who are vaccinated but out in quarantine for being sick. He has met again with the chaplain who processed his religious exemption request who showed him the real nature of today’s military.
His most senior officer on the base who previously told my nephew and the others refusing the shot that he had their backs wrote an accompanying letter to his exemption request which stated that by refusing to be vaccinated he had caused morale issues on the base and undue extra work on his peers. literally trying to thwart his exemption request.
Of the 19 on the helicopter side who initially refused, my nephew is the only one who didn’t cave to the pressure. There are 15 on the plane side who are still refusing.
When threatened with court martial he simply stood. When his entire stellar service was called into question he simply stood. When told he might be made to pay back money for training and housing he simply stood.
Please pray for Andy. He is under incredible pressure.
Wow the left is sure compassionate.
building an alternate retirement plan isn’t really in the cards
VAX or NO VAX?
I empathize with people's dilemma. I understand the fear of losing a job. Losing friends... It took me 10 months to find one as I blew through meager savings --and yet come Monday if part of the final hiring process they say "vaccine required" --I'm out. I've lived on the edge more than not, so I do not fear even homelessness. Been there.
No job is worth health complications or my life. But for me --even IF there wasn't the threat of that --no job is worth compromising my personal integrity and beliefs. Took me a lifetime to come to that staunch, hard line realization. But I have to live with me.
Most solid and honest people have a line that can not be crossed. It's not for me to say where --or judge where, that should be for anyone.
For each and every one of you:
If your line is ok with taking the risk --that's fine. But decide now where your line is because...
I can fucking guarantee you it will be approached and tested and knowing the agenda that's being enacted --likely trampled, again.
I was more speaking of rebuilding that 16 year period and that basis of the retirement coming from it, I was taught at a young age not to put all your eggs in one basket… I’ve built alternative financial means for my retirement, just won’t be recouping the money that retirement aspect would have provided. Believe me, anyone thinking they are retiring from the military and basing that retirement on the sole means to support themselves for the rest of their lives, is a foolNot true. Not by any shot unless you believe that.
I've had to reinvent shit and multiple careers, several times in my life. You can. And will.
And moreover IF you do, when you do, you'll have your solid, uncaved convictions INTACT. THAT's worth more than anything.
Go to college on the Voc rehab part of the GI bIll from the VA like I am. I got medically retired back in july this year. I've only ever done medical stuff my whole life. Get the BAH and have them pay for your degree.I’m in the same boat currently….. National Guard finally issued guidance and the state NG finally pushed out their guidance as well. I am scheduled to get counseled on Tuesday in regards to this…. About to find out and see if 16 years of active duty service is about to go down the tubes …. Sucks because I joined the military at a late age, 36yo, so, building an alternate retirement plan isn’t really in the cards
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