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Why in ever living hell would Fox allow those two liberal starfish tonguing biased shit stains Bret and Martha report on any election results outside of middle school class president? And then get the opinion of one more shit stain Biden ball licker Chris Wallace? Fire these bastardized people already…….please….!
 
You are misinformed. 80%+ of the homeless problem is not because of random circumstances, but because of drug addiction and mental health issues. Perpetuating the problem through entitlements perpetuates the problem. It's not something that will ever go away, which to your point is why we need to be a charitable people to deserve liberty.

You are a newcomer, and don't know the community to which you are preaching this woke progressivism. The charity on this board alone is staggering. When someone we know gets knocked down "due to various circumstances beyond their control" we mobilize and move to help in great numbers and with remarkable generosity. So, you haven't a clue as to what you're talking about.

We don't need to virtue signal like you do. Our actions speak to our virtue, not our words.

Women have been having babies as teenagers since before recorded history. It is only your twisted progressive ideology that views this as some sort of death sentence rather than as a blessing, which is why you think this is justification for murder.
I'd like to see the studies you've based your 80% number on, but I'll stipulate it to be close enough, for the sake of not getting mired in detail neither one of us has. Mental health issues - these people are homeless through no fault of their own, pure and simple. Yet, they're on the street, scorned and criminalized versus receiving the assistance and therapy to be as productive as possible. Conservatives treat drug addiction as a crime instead of a disease. I've got some first hand experience with both of these issues. But you can't convict someone enough to address addiction. You also can't throw charitable contributions at these people or create more homeless shelters and expect a positive long term change. The problem is well beyond charity.
 
Personal responsibility is so foreign to leftys, it isn't even an option with them.
If I can't kill my baby, then someone else should support it. How about using any of the dozens of methods of birth control that don't involve killing a baby? Better still, get counseling for your daddy issues instead of slinging coochie like it's candy on a float in the Christmas parade, in a sad attempt to get the male attention you missed as a child.
One thing I appreciate is you've already made the assumption that the male who took part in initiating the pregnancy has absolved his personal responsibility. I guess that's okay, then. Nice slut shaming, over generalization, and mischaracterization of all women who have abortions.
Also nice leap that I am in favor of abortions. Advocating access to safe abortions is not the same as advocating abortions. Personally, I find it abhorrent that some use them as birth control.

While you're in your ideal world where people take responsibility for their actions, or at least you force women to, some of us live in reality, where that doesn't always happen. Your indignation toward that clearly hasn't made a dent in the matter, so you can face reality or bury your head in hatred.

On the subject of reality, here's one for your consideration. Those unwanted children tend to have horrible childhoods (which you don't care about, because getting an abortion is worse) and frequently wind up as criminals. Some of those commit murder. So, you saved a fetus so they could take the life of someone else. Lest you think I'm making shit up, there have been multiple studies that have found a distinct and significant correlation between Roe v Wade and a decrease in crime. Sticking with homicides, they found a 30% decrease directly attributable to the court case. Now you've got a dilemma. Do you a) allow abortions to take place or b) ban them, knowing it'll result in an equal number of innocents being murdered as a result? Please choose one.

https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/BFI_WP_201975.pdf
 
Just once, I'd like you to stay on topic. You're such a genius, stop blaming the libs for where we are (is there some right wing database for every discussion?) and avail me with your wisdom on how to solve the homeless problem, knowing that 'good old fashioned gumption' is beyond their capabilities.
 
I'd like to see the studies you've based your 80% number on, but I'll stipulate it to be close enough, for the sake of not getting mired in detail neither one of us has. Mental health issues - these people are homeless through no fault of their own, pure and simple. Yet, they're on the street, scorned and criminalized versus receiving the assistance and therapy to be as productive as possible. Conservatives treat drug addiction as a crime instead of a disease. I've got some first hand experience with both of these issues. But you can't convict someone enough to address addiction. You also can't throw charitable contributions at these people or create more homeless shelters and expect a positive long term change. The problem is well beyond charity.

Your lefty anger is misplaced. What party dominates just about every major city in the US? What's the entitlement spend per GDP?

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Your issues mainly reside with your own political democrat party overlords.

Promises, promises with no substance. Instead, too many grift and steal...lining the pockets of their family/friends under guise of contracts and kickbacks, each layer dipping into the bottomless pot of gold. By the time it reaches those in need, there are only pennies left on the dollar.

This coming from someone who believes social programs are absolutely necessary.

Moreover, most (self proclaimed) conservatives that I know acknowledge the need for assistance for those who truly need help at minimum for a temporary lift.

Fact is, the enormous (mind boggling) amounts of entitlement money which isn't accounted for in detail has poisoned many of those who are responsible for using the funds wisely/efficiently.

Entitlement spend keeps going up, up, up and the problems keep getting worse, worse, worse. Perhaps money isn't the entire solution?

You need to step back from the ledge a tad lol...and look at things and what is going on. Open your eyes...

As for abortion, you can't force the women to take care of herself let alone an unborn child. Sad as it may be, thems the facts. And my liberal tendency with all things considered cannot remedy. It's impossible.

This is a cultural problem plain and simple. One of which, your party (democrats) have co-opted the "culling of undesirables" just as it was always intended. What's sad is yall can't call it for what it is. Instead of playing mental gymnastics, just own it and gain some respect for being truthful to your principles.

Lastly, the Lord in Heaven will have the final say. when all of us stand to be judged and all the darkest secrets of our souls are on full display for all to see who we truly are.
 
Your lefty anger is misplaced. What party dominates just about every major city in the US? What's the entitlement spend per GDP?

chart-3-1024x682.jpg


Your issues mainly reside with your own political democrat party overlords.

Promises, promises with no substance. Instead, too many grift and steal...lining the pockets of their family/friends under guise of contracts and kickbacks, each layer dipping into the bottomless pot of gold. By the time it reaches those in need, there are only pennies left on the dollar.

This coming from someone who believes social programs are absolutely necessary.

Moreover, most (self proclaimed) conservatives that I know acknowledge the need for assistance for those who truly need help at minimum for a temporary lift.

Fact is, the enormous (mind boggling) amounts of entitlement money which isn't accounted for in detail has poisoned many of those who are responsible for using the funds wisely/efficiently.

Entitlement spend keeps going up, up, up and the problems keep getting worse, worse, worse. Perhaps money isn't the entire solution?

You need to step back from the ledge a tad lol...and look at things and what is going on. Open your eyes...

As for abortion, you can't force the women to take care of herself let alone an unborn child. Sad as it may be, thems the facts. And my liberal tendency with all things considered cannot remedy. It's impossible.

This is a cultural problem plain and simple. One of which, your party (democrats) have co-opted the "culling of undesirables" just as it was always intended. What's sad is yall can't call it for what it is. Instead of playing mental gymnastics, just own it and gain some respect for being truthful to your principles.

Lastly, the Lord in Heaven will have the final say. when all of us stand to be judged and all the darkest secrets of our souls are on full display for all to see who we truly are.
why the hell do you think they are killing off old people? seems like it will help them a lot.
 
I'd like to see the studies you've based your 80% number on, but I'll stipulate it to be close enough, for the sake of not getting mired in detail neither one of us has. Mental health issues - these people are homeless through no fault of their own, pure and simple. Yet, they're on the street, scorned and criminalized versus receiving the assistance and therapy to be as productive as possible. Conservatives treat drug addiction as a crime instead of a disease. I've got some first hand experience with both of these issues. But you can't convict someone enough to address addiction. You also can't throw charitable contributions at these people or create more homeless shelters and expect a positive long term change. The problem is well beyond charity.
That I agree with.
One thing I appreciate is you've already made the assumption that the male who took part in initiating the pregnancy has absolved his personal responsibility. I guess that's okay, then. Nice slut shaming, over generalization, and mischaracterization of all women who have abortions.
Also nice leap that I am in favor of abortions. Advocating access to safe abortions is not the same as advocating abortions. Personally, I find it abhorrent that some use them as birth control.

While you're in your ideal world where people take responsibility for their actions, or at least you force women to, some of us live in reality, where that doesn't always happen. Your indignation toward that clearly hasn't made a dent in the matter, so you can face reality or bury your head in hatred.

On the subject of reality, here's one for your consideration. Those unwanted children tend to have horrible childhoods (which you don't care about, because getting an abortion is worse) and frequently wind up as criminals. Some of those commit murder. So, you saved a fetus so they could take the life of someone else. Lest you think I'm making shit up, there have been multiple studies that have found a distinct and significant correlation between Roe v Wade and a decrease in crime. Sticking with homicides, they found a 30% decrease directly attributable to the court case. Now you've got a dilemma. Do you a) allow abortions to take place or b) ban them, knowing it'll result in an equal number of innocents being murdered as a result? Please choose one.

https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/BFI_WP_201975.pdf
No doubt murdering them as babies prevents crime, because most of them would grow up poor (oh the horror!), and poors are all criminals by definition we all know! But wait, aren’t you lefties the party of the poors? I thought you loved them and hated The Rich? I guess that was as much billshit as the rest of it since you want to murder them all because they might become criminals.

Honestly, you need Jesus. It’s your arrogance that damns you more than anything. This inventing your own moral compass and then trying to make everyone respect and follow is not working out for you at all. You’re an immoral joke for whom ethics are an alien language. No wonder you have to constantly virtue signal. You haven’t the foggiest clue what a virtue is in the first place.

I don’t have the gift of proselytization (I’m more of a battle Christian), so I can’t help you, but you need to start reading the Bible every night and going to church, because clearly you don’t know right from wrong, and you think that you do. Justifying murdering babies because they will grow up poor and become criminals is some really dark, Nazi shit. Like most of your kind you are total scum but you think you are virtuous.

 
Your lefty anger is misplaced. What party dominates just about every major city in the US? What's the entitlement spend per GDP?

chart-3-1024x682.jpg


Your issues mainly reside with your own political democrat party overlords.

Promises, promises with no substance. Instead, too many grift and steal...lining the pockets of their family/friends under guise of contracts and kickbacks, each layer dipping into the bottomless pot of gold. By the time it reaches those in need, there are only pennies left on the dollar.

This coming from someone who believes social programs are absolutely necessary.

Moreover, most (self proclaimed) conservatives that I know acknowledge the need for assistance for those who truly need help at minimum for a temporary lift.

Fact is, the enormous (mind boggling) amounts of entitlement money which isn't accounted for in detail has poisoned many of those who are responsible for using the funds wisely/efficiently.

Entitlement spend keeps going up, up, up and the problems keep getting worse, worse, worse. Perhaps money isn't the entire solution?

You need to step back from the ledge a tad lol...and look at things and what is going on. Open your eyes...

As for abortion, you can't force the women to take care of herself let alone an unborn child. Sad as it may be, thems the facts. And my liberal tendency with all things considered cannot remedy. It's impossible.

This is a cultural problem plain and simple. One of which, your party (democrats) have co-opted the "culling of undesirables" just as it was always intended. What's sad is yall can't call it for what it is. Instead of playing mental gymnastics, just own it and gain some respect for being truthful to your principles.

Lastly, the Lord in Heaven will have the final say. when all of us stand to be judged and all the darkest secrets of our souls are on full display for all to see who we truly are.
Y'all just want to paint me as a lib or member of the democratic party so badly, you're using the Trump tactic of telling a lie enough times makes it true. I don't identify with either party, anymore. I was a registered R until the aforementioned individual was elected...I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, that was a lovely post that I'm sure you put a lot of thought into (I'm not joking). While it does a fantastic job of blaming democrats for everything, it doesn't fix the homeless problem. I keep reading about personal responsibility and hard work, which we're in agreement are beyond the capability of addicts and the mentally ill. You're also dead set against more entitlements. Many here seem dead set against a lot of things, but no one's offered up thoughts on how to fix the homeless crisis while maintaining strict conservative doctrine. I'm respectfully asking for someone to put up or shut up.
 
Is anyone else not getting email notifications from this thread? I get everything else, but I don't always get the notification from this thread. I'm 6 pages behind and haven't gotten anything after 1pm yesterday.
 
Y'all just want to paint me as a lib or member of the democratic party so badly, you're using the Trump tactic of telling a lie enough times makes it true. I don't identify with either party, anymore. I was a registered R until the aforementioned individual was elected...I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, that was a lovely post that I'm sure you put a lot of thought into (I'm not joking). While it does a fantastic job of blaming democrats for everything, it doesn't fix the homeless problem. I keep reading about personal responsibility and hard work, which we're in agreement are beyond the capability of addicts and the mentally ill. You're also dead set against more entitlements. Many here seem dead set against a lot of things, but no one's offered up thoughts on how to fix the homeless crisis while maintaining strict conservative doctrine. I'm respectfully asking for someone to put up or shut up.
there is a drastic shortage of low cost housing, and your team is letting in 2 million illegals this year to compete for what little there is.
 
That I agree with.

No doubt murdering them as babies prevents crime, because most of them would grow up poor (oh the horror!), and poors are all criminals by definition we all know! But wait, aren’t you lefties the party of the poors? I thought you loved them and hated The Rich? I guess that was as much billshit as the rest of it since you want to murder them all because they might become criminals.

Honestly, you need Jesus. It’s your arrogance that damns you more than anything. This inventing your own moral compass and then trying to make everyone respect and follow is not working out for you at all. You’re an immoral joke for whom ethics are an alien language. No wonder you have to constantly virtue signal. You haven’t the foggiest clue what a virtue is in the first place.

I don’t have the gift of proselytization (I’m more of a battle Christian), so I can’t help you, but you need to start reading the Bible every night and going to church, because clearly you don’t know right from wrong, and you think that you do. Justifying murdering babies because they will grow up poor and become criminals is some really dark, Nazi shit. Like most of your kind you are total scum but you think you are virtuous.


One simple answer a or b? What would Jesus do?
 
One thing I appreciate is you've already made the assumption that the male who took part in initiating the pregnancy has absolved his personal responsibility.
Really? Tell me how the male has the option of escaping personal responsibility like the road whore?
I guess that's okay, then. Nice slut shaming, over generalization, and mischaracterization of all women who have abortions.
Killing a baby to avoid the consequences of being a filthy road whore?
Also nice leap that I am in favor of abortions. Advocating access to safe abortions is not the same as advocating abortions. Personally, I find it abhorrent that some use them as birth control.
Advocating safe abortions doesn’t mean you're in favor of abortions?
What kind of brownies are you eating?
While you're in your ideal world where people take responsibility for their actions, or at least you force women to, some of us live in reality, where that doesn't always happen. Your indignation toward that clearly hasn't made a dent in the matter, so you can face reality or bury your head in hatred.
Every part of leftism is based on avoiding personal responsibility and/or getting free stuff, that you stoop to the level of killing your own children to avoid responsibility only speaks to your depravity.
On the subject of reality, here's one for your consideration. Those unwanted children tend to have horrible childhoods (which you don't care about, because getting an abortion is worse) and frequently wind up as criminals.
Yet those road whores who live in those conditions aren't killing themselves en masse.
Some of those commit murder. So, you saved a fetus so they could take the life of someone else. Lest you think I'm making shit up, there have been multiple studies that have found a distinct and significant correlation between Roe v Wade and a decrease in crime. Sticking with homicides, they found a 30% decrease directly attributable to the court case. Now you've got a dilemma. Do you a) allow abortions to take place or b) ban them, knowing it'll result in an equal number of innocents being murdered as a result? Please choose one.
100% chance of taking an innocent life vs the chance of an innocent life being taken? I guess probability and statistics isn't your strong suit, only begging for freebies.
 
there is a drastic shortage of low cost housing, and your team is letting in 2 million illegals this year to compete for what little there is.

Don't worry, if my REITs indicate anything, they are building rental housing all over the country. I have a REIT that went from almost all commercial property to entire neighborhoods dedicated to rental income. Seriously billions of dollars flipped like a light switch.
 
Just once, I'd like you to stay on topic. You're such a genius, stop blaming the libs for where we are (is there some right wing database for every discussion?) and avail me with your wisdom on how to solve the homeless problem, knowing that 'good old fashioned gumption' is beyond their capabilities.
Homelessness has already been addressed as a problem overwhelmingly caused by mental illnesses and drug abuse.
Of course, as a lefty you refuse to accept that reality as it forces one to accept personal responsibility which is anathema to leftys.
 
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Don't worry, if my REITs indicate anything, they are building rental housing all over the country. I have a REIT that went from almost all commercial property to entire neighborhoods dedicated to rental income. Seriously billions of dollars flipped like a light switch.
that's also true. The amount of apartments and houses (not all low income, but bought by a Soros sponsored company I suspect) hear is staggering. I'd say an easy 3000 units in the past 18 months. (for the record, that probably doubles the # of apartments). I'd LOVE to know where these people are coming from. My guess is shipped in illegals who will have full voting rights so they can turn solid red to solid blue in less than 2 elections.
 
Y'all just want to paint me as a lib or member of the democratic party so badly, you're using the Trump tactic of telling a lie enough times makes it true. I don't identify with either party, anymore. I was a registered R until the aforementioned individual was elected...I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, that was a lovely post that I'm sure you put a lot of thought into (I'm not joking). While it does a fantastic job of blaming democrats for everything, it doesn't fix the homeless problem. I keep reading about personal responsibility and hard work, which we're in agreement are beyond the capability of addicts and the mentally ill. You're also dead set against more entitlements. Many here seem dead set against a lot of things, but no one's offered up thoughts on how to fix the homeless crisis while maintaining strict conservative doctrine. I'm respectfully asking for someone to put up or shut up.

Tbh, it took very little thought because it is happening right in front of us...lmao.

I actually see your latest post as some slight progress and yes it's both parties, no argument there. It's also no argument that your party (democrats) control the big cities, who have seen explosions in drug use, mental illness, homelessness, declining school scores, etc. But yet the fact you do not even acknowledge...why? Because yes, it does matter.

I have an idea. Let's start with a 100% full transparency every fucking penny accounted for, audit on entitlement spend.

The results will help me formulate possible solutions.

got to have a baseline of where we are at, you know.
 
Really? Tell me how the male has the option of escaping personal responsibility like the road whore?

Killing a baby to avoid the consequences of being a filthy road whore?

Advocating safe abortions doesn’t mean you're in favor of abortions?
What kind of brownies are you eating?

Every part of leftism is based on avoiding personal responsibility and/or getting free stuff, that you stoop to the level of killing your own children to avoid responsibility only speaks to your depravity.

Yet those road whores who live in those conditions aren't killing themselves en masse.

100% chance of taking an innocent life vs the chance of an innocent life being taken? I guess probability and statistics isn't your strong suit, only begging for freebies.
You're so perfect. You'll insult anyone who doesn't think like you and blame them for fucking everything, but when you're challenged with a genuine real world problem, you run away like a bigoted, close minded little girl. You're incapable of thinking on your own and that's just sad.

Love the road whore thing. I'm sure there's at least one person on here whose daughter had an abortion and loves your characterization of her.
 
One simple answer a or b? What would Jesus do?

I love when hypocritical leftists try to invoke the Bible. When Jesus met the rich young ruler, and advised him to sell all his possessions.
Did Jesus force him to when he refused?
Jesus was a carpenter long before power saws, air nailers, or even precut lumber. So Jesus was a powerfully built man. So was his disciples who were fishermen, etc.
Later in scripture we learn that Jesus had power over (at least) twelve legions of angels.
So Jesus had the power to force the rich young ruler to sell all his possessions, but anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows every biblical admonition to charity is a personal admonition.
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You're so perfect. You'll insult anyone who doesn't think like you and blame them for fucking everything, but when you're challenged with a genuine real world problem, you run away like a bigoted, close minded little girl. You're incapable of thinking on your own and that's just sad.

Love the road whore thing. I'm sure there's at least one person on here whose daughter had an abortion and loves your characterization of her.
In psychology it's called operant conditioning, old farmers call it the carrot and the stick, reward the behavior you want,and punish the behavior you don't. It's worked for thousands of years, until deadbeats democrats discovered they can buy people's votes with public money.
 
Y'all just want to paint me as a lib or member of the democratic party so badly, you're using the Trump tactic of telling a lie enough times makes it true. I don't identify with either party, anymore. I was a registered R until the aforementioned individual was elected...I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, that was a lovely post that I'm sure you put a lot of thought into (I'm not joking). While it does a fantastic job of blaming democrats for everything, it doesn't fix the homeless problem. I keep reading about personal responsibility and hard work, which we're in agreement are beyond the capability of addicts and the mentally ill. You're also dead set against more entitlements. Many here seem dead set against a lot of things, but no one's offered up thoughts on how to fix the homeless crisis while maintaining strict conservative doctrine. I'm respectfully asking for someone to put up or shut up.
Darwinism has worked perfectly for eons until dems started rewarding poor life choices.
 
By the way "America first" had nothing to do with isolationism. At least from my observations and interactions.

all these problems you speak of, are OUR problems, despite our differences (which are numerous).

America first is dealing with our problems, and taking care of our people. Providing an positive environment for jobs, education (school choice), equality of opportunity and lifting the whole via the individual. This is a true liberal agenda. :)
 
Tbh, it took very little thought because it is happening right in front of us...lmao.

I actually see your latest post as some slight progress and yes it's both parties, no argument there. It's also no argument that your party (democrats) control the big cities, who have seen explosions in drug use, mental illness, homelessness, declining school scores, etc. But yet the fact you do not even acknowledge...why? Because yes, it does matter.

I have an idea. Let's start with a 100% full transparency every fucking penny accounted for, audit on entitlement spend.

The results will help me formulate possible solutions.

got to have a baseline of where we are at, you know.
I don't have a party, so there goes that.

As for the issues in the big cities, I've not been avoiding them, because no one's intelligently challenged me on them or perhaps they were there, but buried in insults. That being said I'm neither sufficiently familiar to either corroborate them as true (i.e. how does mental illness increase when half of it is genetic and the other environment?) nor dispute them, much less offer up an explanation. If the dems are fucking up, they deserve to be kicked to the curb. Despite you and others continuing to claim otherwise, I have zero loyalties to any political party or ideology. Rhetoric is a waste of time. I want results and if the incumbent can't deliver them, they can fuck right off, whoever they are.

Back to the topic at hand, my question as to a solution to effectively combat homelessness is theoretical and stands on its own. What would you do, as a conservative? I'm not asking you to work within a budget, or to find a way to pay for it, so current spending on entitlements is immaterial.