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Wow. You do all the explaining for me.

There is nothing to agree or disagree upon. I have not given an opinion. These are the scientific facts that are not in dispute. Where you place "personhood", or bestow the title of "human being" is arbitrary and capricious and has nothing to do with science or facts. This is not opinion. These are the provable scientific facts and the undisputed truth. The bright line is where scientific testing can prove, indisputably, that it is human, and it is a being. It IS a human being, and nothing you can say changes those facts. You are for the murder of innocent human beings, period. Everything else you spout is irrelevant.

Now, you can claim some religious belief that the living being that is provably a member of the species homo sapien does not have rights or value, but then that's pretty much the whole program of the left; that some pigs are more equal than others.

To say that entitlements are one of the pillars of conservativism just displays more mind numbing ignorance. This you are just making up. I have NEVER heard this from anyone.

The idea of "CHAIRITY" is a Christian one, but there is a gulf between charity and entitlements. Charity requires agency. Do you know what "agency" is? Tom helps Jill with her homework. Jill recognizes that Tom is spending his time and energy to help Jill with her homework. Jill has gratitude for what Tom is doing for her and is asking nothing in return...

Jill demands that Tom gives her the answers for her homework. She does not want to read the material and answer the questions on her own, and she believes that Tom owes her the answers no matter what she does or doesn't do.

Compare and contrast these two scenarios.

If it is a case of rape or incest I really don't have an answer other than murdering a person won't right a crime. I don't believe that abortion should be illegal in this case, but it is only compounding a tragedy with another crime. In every other case the woman obviously wants a child because she is having unprotected sex. Did you not have high school health? Do I need to explain where babies come from. What you really are after is a consequence free life, and you could not be any further away from Conservatism (big C) than that. Which is why I call you a liar, which is what you are.
 
Follow the money:

Nov 2 (Reuters) - Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) on Tuesday said it expected this year to sell $36 billion of the COVID-19 vaccine it developed with German partner BioNTech (22UAy.DE) and forecast another $29 billion in sales in 2022, topping analyst estimates for both years.

 
Individual responsibility and not collectivism unless there are legitimate circumstances that prevent one from living up to their personal responsibility.

You don't work you don't eat.

Get busy.
The problem is with how conservatives define legitimate circumstances; almost nothing is to them. There's a massive homeless crisis going on in a number of US cities, with people losing their homes, due to various circumstances beyond their control. But all most GOP folks want to do is criminalize the act of being homeless. Not exactly conducive to them getting their lives back on track. On the subject at hand, young girls make mistakes (or get raped) and find themselves in high school with a baby. It's a bit difficult to make someone 'get busy' if they're alone with a baby, but lack access to sufficient childcare to get a job and provide for themselves.
 
If it is a case of rape or incest I really don't have an answer other than murdering a person won't right a crime.

That's not the position that God has conveyed.

And there in lies the rub where Man interjects his judgment above God's.

Exactly why things are where they are at today and we haven't seen half the curses that are coming.
 
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Probably because it wasn't a year ago today...
 
The problem is with how conservatives define legitimate circumstances; almost nothing is to them. There's a massive homeless crisis going on in a number of US cities, with people losing their homes, due to various circumstances beyond their control. But all most GOP folks want to do is criminalize the act of being homeless. Not exactly conducive to them getting their lives back on track. On the subject at hand, young girls make mistakes (or get raped) and find themselves in high school with a baby. It's a bit difficult to make someone 'get busy' if they're alone with a baby, but lack access to sufficient childcare to get a job and provide for themselves.

Manufactured bullshit albeit now complex in nature.

It's not rocket science, everyone has a capacity to produce something with their time.

Rage on with the lies and bullshit. Time to get those out of your system is getting short.
 
Wow. You do all the explaining for me.

There is nothing to agree or disagree upon. I have not given an opinion. These are the scientific facts that are not in dispute. Where you place "personhood", or bestow the title of "human being" is arbitrary and capricious and has nothing to do with science or facts. This is not opinion. These are the provable scientific facts and the undisputed truth. The bright line is where scientific testing can prove, indisputably, that it is human, and it is a being. It IS a human being, and nothing you can say changes those facts. You are for the murder of innocent human beings, period. Everything else you spout is irrelevant.

Now, you can claim some religious belief that the living being that is provably a member of the species homo sapien does not have rights or value, but then that's pretty much the whole program of the left; that some pigs are more equal than others.

To say that entitlements are one of the pillars of conservativism just displays more mind numbing ignorance. This you are just making up. I have NEVER heard this from anyone.

The idea of "CHAIRITY" is a Christian one, but there is a gulf between charity and entitlements. Charity requires agency. Do you know what "agency" is? Tom helps Jill with her homework. Jill recognizes that Tom is spending his time and energy to help Jill with her homework. Jill has gratitude for what Tom is doing for her and is asking nothing in return...

Jill demands that Tom gives her the answers for her homework. She does not want to read the material and answer the questions on her own, and she believes that Tom owes her the answers no matter what she does or doesn't do.

Compare and contrast these two scenarios.

If it is a case of rape or incest I really don't have an answer other than murdering a person won't right a crime. I don't believe that abortion should be illegal in this case, but it is only compounding a tragedy with another crime. In every other case the woman obviously wants a child because she is having unprotected sex. Did you not have high school health? Do I need to explain where babies come from. What you really are after is a consequence free life, and you could not be any further away from Conservatism (big C) than that. Which is why I call you a liar, which is what you are.
You fucking dipshit, I said that being against entitlements is one of the pillars of conservatism.
You can call me a liar all you want, but it's only because you can't read for shit. Show me one place where I claimed to be a conservative. Oh, and thanks for telling me what I'm really after; you know me much better than I know myself. To the guy who can't spell introspection.
 
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Manufactured bullshit albeit now complex in nature.

It's not rocket science, everyone has a capacity to produce something with their time.

Rage on with the lies and bullshit. Time to get those out of your system is getting short.
The thing is I used to be a staunch conservative, in pretty much every way. But the fact is it doesn't work. You live in your own little bubble and refuse to listen to other ideas or be exposed to the world outside your own, just like I did. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
 
The far right is dead set against entitlements / social safety nets, such as welfare and other assistance for those in need.

The problem is with how conservatives define legitimate circumstances; almost nothing is to them. There's a massive homeless crisis going on in a number of US cities, with people losing their homes, due to various circumstances beyond their control. But all most GOP folks want to do is criminalize the act of being homeless. Not exactly conducive to them getting their lives back on track. On the subject at hand, young girls make mistakes (or get raped) and find themselves in high school with a baby. It's a bit difficult to make someone 'get busy' if they're alone with a baby, but lack access to sufficient childcare to get a job and provide for themselves.

You fucking dipshit, I said that being against entitlements is one of the pillars of conservatism.

Where did you get this from? It's entirely untrue. Many conservatives think welfare and assistance should be provided mostly by the church. I'm pretty far right and believe in government assistance myself, but not how it's handed out like candy today. The CBO itself admits there is MASSIVE fraud in welfare in America.
 
First, please explain EXACTLY what I've claimed to be and aren't. Or very specifically what I've lied about, because I'm genuinely curious how you feel I've misrepresented myself.

With respect to abortion, we'll have to agree to disagree (or you can remain closed minded and condemn me, who cares). What I'd really like to hear your position on is this: The far right is dead set against entitlements / social safety nets, such as welfare and other assistance for those in need. That's one of the pillars of conservatism. If you're forcing women to have unwanted babies, why wouldn't you want to take care of them? It seems every life is sacred until it leaves the womb, then you're on your own.
Personal responsibility is so foreign to leftys, it isn't even an option with them.
If I can't kill my baby, then someone else should support it. How about using any of the dozens of methods of birth control that don't involve killing a baby? Better still, get counseling for your daddy issues instead of slinging coochie like it's candy on a float in the Christmas parade, in a sad attempt to get the male attention you missed as a child.

As for those safety nets, how they working out?
Net is an apt term as they trap folks in the poverty plantation.
Dems have controlled every inner city slum for decades, yet haven't fixed a single one.
The old saying is dems are for the poor and repubs for the rich.
The hidden implication of that is dems have vested interest in maintaining and expanding poverty, lest they lose their constituency.
It's the only thing they've successfully done.
 
Manufactured bullshit albeit now complex in nature.

It's not rocket science, everyone has a capacity to produce something with their time.

Rage on with the lies and bullshit. Time to get those out of your system is getting short.
If leftys were as adept at making opportunities as they are with making excuses, they would've have to be leftys.
 
The thing is I used to be a staunch conservative, in pretty much every way. But the fact is it doesn't work. You live in your own little bubble and refuse to listen to other ideas or be exposed to the world outside your own, just like I did. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Your viewpoints are clouded by the perspective of an over reaching centralized government that has been deliberately fashioned not to work and promote corruption.

Social responsibility use to be taken care of by a local church and community where they were better equipped to assist those who couldn't fully care for themselves.
 
The problem is with how conservatives define legitimate circumstances; almost nothing is to them. There's a massive homeless crisis going on in a number of US cities, with people losing their homes, due to various circumstances beyond their control. But all most GOP folks want to do is criminalize the act of being homeless. Not exactly conducive to them getting their lives back on track. On the subject at hand, young girls make mistakes (or get raped) and find themselves in high school with a baby. It's a bit difficult to make someone 'get busy' if they're alone with a baby, but lack access to sufficient childcare to get a job and provide for themselves.
You are misinformed. 80%+ of the homeless problem is not because of random circumstances, but because of drug addiction and mental health issues. Perpetuating the problem through entitlements perpetuates the problem. It's not something that will ever go away, which to your point is why we need to be a charitable people to deserve liberty.

You are a newcomer, and don't know the community to which you are preaching this woke progressivism. The charity on this board alone is staggering. When someone we know gets knocked down "due to various circumstances beyond their control" we mobilize and move to help in great numbers and with remarkable generosity. So, you haven't a clue as to what you're talking about.

We don't need to virtue signal like you do. Our actions speak to our virtue, not our words.

Women have been having babies as teenagers since before recorded history. It is only your twisted progressive ideology that views this as some sort of death sentence rather than as a blessing, which is why you think this is justification for murder.
 
Every time abortion is discussed the left throws out the "what about incest and rape" bullshit. Of the thousands of abortions every year. How many are from incest and rape? An insignificant number. So let's deal with those as individuals when they happen. Does it make sense to kill 600,000 babies because a couple hundred came from rape or incest? How about you cut your dick off so that women don't get raped?

Look!! Two cells discovered on Mars!! Life!!!!
Two cells after sex. It's not life!! Kill it!!
 
The problem is with how conservatives define legitimate circumstances; almost nothing is to them. There's a massive homeless crisis going on in a number of US cities, with people losing their homes, due to various circumstances beyond their control. But all most GOP folks want to do is criminalize the act of being homeless. Not exactly conducive to them getting their lives back on track. On the subject at hand, young girls make mistakes (or get raped) and find themselves in high school with a baby. It's a bit difficult to make someone 'get busy' if they're alone with a baby, but lack access to sufficient childcare to get a job and provide for themselves.

The homelessness problem is not due to people losing their homes. The vast majority of the “new” homeless population are ex cons released from custody due to the recently implemented criminal justice reform. In the past these very same people circulated in and out of jail, prison, forced rehab programs. Now they aren’t held accountable so they live in tents on your sidewalk.
 
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Who the fuck are all these commies posting in this thread?

Glowies?
Sharia blue paid trolls?
True believers?


I don’t see you mfers posting in any of the tech forums????
Meh, it's in the portajohn... I just wish it wasn't the JV team. These people don't have any developed thoughts at all. It's all just leftist platitudes they cannot themselves defend or even coherently explain, because it's just received "wisdom" from their miseducation. What's really clear is that they've never even thought about the conservative position unless it was more explanation from their own leftist sources. That they actually believe that entitlements are the same thing as charity is pretty telling. You have to believe that some of this has to be because they are totally divorced and ignorant of what Christianity actually teaches, and the body of their knowledge is from "The News".

This is what happens when someone spends their childhood and the best part of their adulthood being indoctrinated in state schools. They haven't been taught to think critically or objectively. They've just been taught to regurgitate talking points by rote that they cannot defend.

I've yet to hear from one of these Socratic geniuses a definition of what a "human being" is. This must be just like critical race theory. It's hard to define, it doesn't exist, it isn't taught in grade and high schools, and it's an esoteric legal theory only found in law schools.
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That boat still afloat?? Just say'n.... Mac🤔
 
"Using data from the study and several estimates, the New Zealand researchers calculated that spontaneous abortions occurred in 81.9 percent to 91.2 percent of the women who were vaccinated before 20 weeks of gestation."

They knew and they covered it up the warning signs. There are abortion drugs that are not that effective at ending a pregnancy.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/resea...n-after-re-analysis-of-cdc-study_4081606.html
 
Who the fuck are all these commies posting in this thread?

Glowies?
Sharia blue paid trolls?
True believers?


I don’t see you mfers posting in any of the tech forums????
This is their plan. They get in places like this and try to divide us. They start with little things like, I voted for Trump but... They build on that. Someone might say "Hey I voted for Trump too, this guy is ok maybe I'll listen?" This is they way they do it. I have seen it all over Latin America. These pieces of shit only understand one thing. The grave. Eventually they will weasel their way into everything and much like cancer will slowly destroy our country. It's already in effect now in the schools, local government, the Whitehouse etc.

What they don't understand. When everything is tipped upside down, there is no law, but only justice. When this happens they can't hang. They haven't been there.

From the Great Philosopher Colonel Kurtz

"Have you ever considered any real freedoms? Freedoms from the opinion of others... even the opinions of yourself?"

"We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig... cow after cow... village after village... army after army..."