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That's when he was assassinated but not when war was declared. On July 28, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia. Then the rest of the countries started declaring war on the other.
Why do you keep posting this bullshit? It was explained in the other thread but I guess with 10 different threads on Ukraine you can ignore the facts and post your feelings in another thread.
So again. Post the links to Russia expansion and reforming the Soviet Union. Other than it being a narrative of the main stream media that you continue to spout it ain't happening. Now NATO and the USA on the other hand?Not unless you accept that Russia, alone on planet Earth, is allowed to have a buffer of slave states around it so it doesn't share a border with any state that is not specifically "pro-Russian" and controlled by Moscow. This may have been the SOP for the 69 years of the Soviet Union, but it isn't anymore, and we should not accept that bullshit. The people who live next to Russia obviously don't. They don't like being the slaves of communist bureaucrats in the Kremlin anymore than you would.
Putin has no legitimate argument, which is why RT and UR are spouting ridiculous propaganda to the Russian people and blacking out everything else. Not that this is any reason that we should not be able to see it, because we should not behave like Putin does.
Russia news - RT International
Find news on the Russian economy, politics, and wider society, as well as stories from all around the world’s biggest country.www.rt.com
Vladimir Putin: Full Text of February 21, 2022 Speech | VT Foreign Policy
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Putin calls the collapse of the USSR "The greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century". It's his own narrative, and it's isn't a secret, evil plan. He's been very open about it, and about retaking the USSR's satellite nations by force, as he has been doing!
I call it an unmitigated blessing, and the end of The Evil Empire. Reconstituting it (exactly as Putin has openly declared to do) is worth fighting to prevent.
Maybe you don't remember the Cold War, but I grew up in it, and I enlisted to fight against Communists and Soviets in particular, so that is a chapter worth not revisiting even though a KGB agent is now the Tsar of Russia.
If you are going to be Pro Putin at least acknowledge what he, himself, says about this war and the USSR's slave countries instead of making up your own reasons to justify this brutal invasion.
The good news is that I believe this is the end of Putin. I don't think he ever dreamed that the Ukrainians would fight like this for every inch of dirt, and deny his troops even a moment of rest as they destroy the country and murder all civilians in their paths. I think the captured commander has it right though. Eventually the Russian troops will hate the Ukrainians and commit even more war crimes as they get decimated.
Vladimir Putin: Full Text of February 21, 2022 Speech | VT Foreign Policy
Putin calls the collapse of the USSR "The greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century". It's his own narrative, and it's isn't a secret, evil plan. He's been very open about it, and about retaking the USSR's satellite nations by force, as he has been doing!
I call it an unmitigated blessing, and the end of The Evil Empire. Reconstituting it (exactly as Putin has openly declared to do) is worth fighting to prevent.
Maybe you don't remember the Cold War, but I grew up in it, and I enlisted to fight against Communists and Soviets in particular, so that is a chapter worth not revisiting even though a KGB agent is now the Tsar of Russia.
If you are going to be Pro Putin at least acknowledge what he, himself, says about this war and the USSR's slave countries instead of making up your own reasons to justify this brutal invasion.
The good news is that I believe this is the end of Putin. I don't think he ever dreamed that the Ukrainians would fight like this for every inch of dirt, and deny his troops even a moment of rest as they destroy the country and murder all civilians in their paths. I think the captured commander has it right though. Eventually the Russian troops will hate the Ukrainians and commit even more war crimes as they get decimated.
Neither country is "good" in this confict. Ukraine has been and is still (or was until 2 weeks ago) a money laundering haven. A haven for all sorts of illicit activity. However, Russia is obviously not much different. Oligarchy's exist by definition by corruption.
The interesting thing is people seem to have forgotten his four demands: https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072413634/russia-nato-ukraine
He's negotiating the other former Soviet Subjugates to his demands - make NO mistake he wants the USSR back intact. There should be no denying that based on these demands. Is the Ukraine Gov't on the-up-and-up? Hell no. Does Russia want the USSR back? Absolutely. People need to think about that - Russia is willing to bring about WW3 to this end.
Effectively, it's WW3 now. It also sets up China to take Taiwan. Remember, under Klinton and Bush, the Quadrennial Defense Review willingly accepted that we can no longer fight on two fronts and it shoudn't be our doctrine (that 2 front doctrine flowed from WW2). Well, that doctrine WAS the correct doctrine should we not want WW3. Again, my opinion.
Instead of peace through strength, we've concentrated our efforts in the USA on perpetrating election fraud, massive welfare, social justice/unrest/bullshit, catering to every single person who doesn't fit the 90th percentile. (or 95th or 99th). This "wokeism" and the selling out of our manufacturing base helped set this up (and that wasn't just the marxists...those NEOCONs helped right along with them - remember what Ross Perot said!!!).
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Russia will stop 'in a moment' if Ukraine meets terms - Kremlin
Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.
www.reuters.com
LONDON, March 7 (Reuters) - Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.
Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.
I have to think that you are either joking or are intentionally having a very selective memory to push an agenda. There really isn't any way you could have written that and believed it unless you simply do not know American history from high school. The US did the same thing until recently when some poor quality leaders let it go - all of the western damn hemisphere other was our iron curtain - the Monroe Doctrine. And on top of that we had the policy of containment, which helped get us in a few conflicts. And China is attempting to do the same thing.
"Alone on planet earth" - not quite. This is part of where our money to other countries goes - to keep them as vassal states, effectively the sentries outside the city walls so to speak. That's one reason why corruption is so high: it doesn't matter to the US what the economy of the vassal state is like for the most part, the real thing is to keep the paid-for politicians fat and happy with us and their economy going just enough to prevent an overthrow of the government the US has chosen to work with. That kind of sounds like what we did in Ukraine.
Monroe Doctrine - Wikipedia
U.S. Must Recover Its Sphere Of Influence In The Western Hemisphere - Center for Security Policy
In the early 1990’s, the idea that the Cold War was over was widespread. The...
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I think you bumped your head a time or two ducking under a desk. Do you think those links actually support your stance that Putin plans on getting the boys back together?
And for the record. I don't give a rats ass about either of them. Possibly favor Putin a bit just in the hope that the corruption in DC gets exposed in an undeniable way and it leads to them swinging.
Vladimir Putin: Full Text of February 21, 2022 Speech | VT Foreign Policy
Putin calls the collapse of the USSR "The greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century". It's his own narrative, and it's isn't a secret, evil plan. He's been very open about it, and about retaking the USSR's satellite nations by force, as he has been doing!
I call it an unmitigated blessing, and the end of The Evil Empire. Reconstituting it (exactly as Putin has openly declared to do) is worth fighting to prevent.
Maybe you don't remember the Cold War, but I grew up in it, and I enlisted to fight against Communists and Soviets in particular, so that is a chapter worth not revisiting even though a KGB agent is now the Tsar of Russia.
If you are going to be Pro Putin at least acknowledge what he, himself, says about this war and the USSR's slave countries instead of making up your own reasons to justify this brutal invasion.
The good news is that I believe this is the end of Putin. I don't think he ever dreamed that the Ukrainians would fight like this for every inch of dirt, and deny his troops even a moment of rest as they destroy the country and murder all civilians in their paths. I think the captured commander has it right though. Eventually the Russian troops will hate the Ukrainians and commit even more war crimes as they get decimated.
And for the record. I don't give a rats ass about either of them. Possibly favor Putin a bit just in the hope that the corruption in DC gets exposed in an undeniable way and it leads to them swinging.
Figured as much, how would a famer get that close to a tank and tow it away? Still funny to think about it though.fake news, no Z or V on the tanks
Everything over there is fake at this point.
Well, thank goodess pete butterfudge has saved us from ourselves:
www.foxbusiness.com
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg claims EV transportation will bring ‘cost savings’ to Americans
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said the American people stand to benefit from having more electric vehicles on the road but failed to elaborate on how they could become more affordable.
www.foxbusiness.com
Well, thank goodess pete butterfudge has saved us from ourselves:
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg claims EV transportation will bring ‘cost savings’ to Americans
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said the American people stand to benefit from having more electric vehicles on the road but failed to elaborate on how they could become more affordable.
Instant savings cause if everyone had one, there would only be enough electricity to charge everones car once per month.
This is the plan. If it wasn't there would be an opening of the pipelines and oilfields to keep America running.Instant savings cause if everyone had one, there would only be enough electricity to charge everones car once per month.
As I understand it, and as best I could figure it out.Are there some Buffalo out there I am not aware of that aren't part of the Bovine family?
Family - Bovinae
Tribe - Bovini
Genus - Bubalus
Includes (but not limited too) Water Buffalo
Genus - Bos
Includes Domestic Cattle
Genus - Syncerus
Includes African Buffalo (commonly referred to as the Cape Buffalo)
Genus - Bison
Includes American Bison
Did I mention that shit like this is why I hate biology. However, I attended a small private Presbyterian boarding school that had a different kind of Biology class. This class stressed how nature was related and worked together rather than requiring students to spend endless hours memorizing worthless Latin words. It was great, I made ‘A’s.
Yep, billions for electric vehicles and charging stations, but not one penny more for electricity generation.Well, thank goodess pete butterfudge has saved us from ourselves:
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg claims EV transportation will bring ‘cost savings’ to Americans
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said the American people stand to benefit from having more electric vehicles on the road but failed to elaborate on how they could become more affordable.
Pete’s got the brains of a mentally retarded rock. Its been mentioned in this forum more than once. States cannot keep up with or maintain the power grid during high stress times now. Add the charging of a few million vehicles every night and jsut where do they think all that extra electricity is going to come from? I suppose they are dreaming that GOD in Heaven is going to send down multiple lightning bolts whenever Pete asks for it. (Without getting too deep in religion, I don’t think, considering Pete’s lifestyle, he is in too good a favor with GOD as it is.)
Vladimir Putin: Full Text of February 21, 2022 Speech | VT Foreign Policy
Putin calls the collapse of the USSR "The greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century". It's his own narrative, and it's isn't a secret, evil plan. He's been very open about it, and about retaking the USSR's satellite nations by force, as he has been doing!
I call it an unmitigated blessing, and the end of The Evil Empire. Reconstituting it (exactly as Putin has openly declared to do) is worth fighting to prevent.
Maybe you don't remember the Cold War, but I grew up in it, and I enlisted to fight against Communists and Soviets in particular, so that is a chapter worth not revisiting even though a KGB agent is now the Tsar of Russia.
If you are going to be Pro Putin at least acknowledge what he, himself, says about this war and the USSR's slave countries instead of making up your own reasons to justify this brutal invasion.
The good news is that I believe this is the end of Putin. I don't think he ever dreamed that the Ukrainians would fight like this for every inch of dirt, and deny his troops even a moment of rest as they destroy the country and murder all civilians in their paths. I think the captured commander has it right though. Eventually the Russian troops will hate the Ukrainians and commit even more war crimes as they get decimated.
i also enlisted during the cold war. and the focus was to "line a hundred russians up against a wall....."
we have been lied to so much, so often, i think all of it was a complete lie at this point. and by who? our government and our media. everytime their mouth opens it's a lie. EVERY TIME. quit hanging onto the bullshit they've fed you.
i hate to be the one to say it, but i think putin is about the only government leader with anything even close to resembling credibility.
I missed most of the interview but Waters had Tulsi Gabbard on. I know what the collective says here, and her anti-2A stance is a no-go for me as are some of her other liberal stances; but I think she's genuinely shocked her party allowed this to happen. She in as much said so and even intimated they planned it this way!!! One thing I do like about her is she's not exactly afraid to speak her mind; though, I think some of it could be to tie herself to the more moderate marxists.
The other thing mentioned with the next guest was why are we not putting our boomers out to sea, having a carrier group go up between Japan and Russia (or something of that nature). Anything to take Putin's attention away just a bit.
At this point, whether or not one believes Ukraine is the cause of a lot of our issues (due to the laundering, etc, etc by their leadership), Russia is literally destroying that place and this is NOT about "let's get rid of their leadership" it's about getting their empire back - next up another former Republic.
We seriously have the wrong leadership in the Pentagon, White House, etc. If we don't play this carefully, very carefully Ukraine will be part of Russia as will other countries in the Baltic. Or worse...nuclear war is a distinct possibility. Closer now than I'd say at any time in my lifetime.
The other thing mentioned with the next guest was why are we not putting our boomers out to sea, having a carrier group go up between Japan and Russia (or something of that nature). Anything to take Putin's attention away just a bit.
At this point, whether or not one believes Ukraine is the cause of a lot of our issues (due to the laundering, etc, etc by their leadership), Russia is literally destroying that place and this is NOT about "let's get rid of their leadership" it's about getting their empire back - next up another former Republic.
We seriously have the wrong leadership in the Pentagon, White House, etc. If we don't play this carefully, very carefully Ukraine will be part of Russia as will other countries in the Baltic. Or worse...nuclear war is a distinct possibility. Closer now than I'd say at any time in my lifetime.
Is true, the earth is actually "greening" overall.
Good or bad?
In the northeast everyone moans about the loss of forest.
Any forest you go into in the northeast is criss crossed with stone walls......miles of stone walls in rectangular or square plots out in the middle of the woods..
Do they think people walked into the woods and just decided to build walls?
oh look, haliburton is doing good again now that trump is out.
If anyone starts a nuclear war my feeling is it will Mr Potato Head not Mr Putin. Putin is way smarter than that.
You mean Cheney Inc?oh look, haliburton is doing good again now that trump is out.
Report: More Than 3000 Americans Want To Join Ukrainian Army
As Russia warns anyone helping Ukraine will be considered as entering the war
summit.news
ROFLMAO!!!! This is a picture of the boys show string back in January. We literally named the black one Oprah last week because she is black, fat and always has a shitty attitude. It is too funny.
For your information, I haven't watched Fox in proably 8 months (before the election) and was flipping through and saw that. I won't lower myself to your standards of calling everybody who disagrees with you some NWO loving asshole.
I don't know your background except that I can say based on your posts you may need to take an inward look at yourself before you start thinking that I cannot speak for myself. I can GUARANTEE that I think for myself which you may disagree with; but at least I can think; and it's apparent from your lunatic fringe postings that you cannot.
In the mean time, I'll do what I do to all you idiots that are about as zeloted and bigotted as the bidens, obamas, soros. Have a nice life and don't wade too big in that pile of poop you keep convincing yourself you know about.
ps. I see you're from the former red state of Texas. How did all your rhetoric work there? Your state is going to be as blue as it gets in 6 more years. Fine job you've done there spewing your views.
You know the election was 14 months ago?
You know I've been hearing Texas will be "as blue as it gets in 4 more years" since 1998?
Don't tell me the way the wind blows here. All this Texas is going to be blue vitriol is nothing but jealousy. It's not your reading of the tea leaves that's going to be accurate
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That is fully in Israel's hands now and they know it.Anybody post this yet?
Russian official says ‘Iran got much more than it expected’ in revived nuclear talks
A Russian diplomat taking part in renewed talks with Iran said Tehran got much more than anyone expected as it negotiated with other nations to revive the 2015 nuclear deal.www.foxnews.com
Unreal. Wonder when full scale war happens in M.E.? After Trump negotiated how many first agreements?
