Powasson Virus

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I'm posting this here in order to get maximum attention.

There's a new tick-borne virus called Powasson that's worse than Lyme. 10% of people who get bitten by Powasson carrying tick DIE. Something like 50% develop permanent neurological problems. There is no cure for it so all we can do is DEET spray the living shit out of outdoor gear and hope for the best. Infection through a tick bite can occur within minutes - not like the longer time period required for infection by Lyme disease.

More data here - http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/diseases/powassan/basics.html
 
Compared to Lyme, yeah it's rare. But in Pennsylvania (where I live) we're leading the nation in number of Lyme disease diagnosis. We've also had our first case of Powasson.
 
Absolutely hate Ticks. Not only due to the disease they can carry, but they just creep me out. Picked one outta my forearm some years back. Just flicked one off a buddy's head the other day before it found a spot to bore in. Appreciate the heads up on this. On the wet side of Washington Lime isn't prevalent but ya never know. My tick I sent into the UW and the health dept said it was negative when they got the results.
Permethrin is what I picked up last time we had this discussion. Can't remember who said get it, but I did. I douche the hell outta everything anymore. Suggest you guys do the same.
 
I caught one crawling on me some years ago and stuck it in the freezer for an hour.
Took it out and put it on the table under the lamp, and in a few minutes that fucker was crawling again. Shit ain't normal.
 
I caught one crawling on me some years ago and stuck it in the freezer for an hour.
Took it out and put it on the table under the lamp, and in a few minutes that fucker was crawling again. Shit ain't normal.

Ya,that ain't suppose to happen. You gotta have a ton of them around your parts too I'd figure. The damn Blacktail Deer around here are sometimes covered with them. And I'm talking a shitload of them. The Elk, not so much. I honestly don't know why that is.
 
We have plenty. The "seed ticks" are the worst. About the size of this dot . , and by the hundreds at a time when you get them.
I know someone who got the red meat allergy thing from a tick. I've been bitten way too many times to count, but have been lucky so far. Chiggers are worse.
 
Thank goodness we ain't got no Chiggers in these here parts. Hell, we don't even have poisonous snakes on this side. I'm good with that too. ;)



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Ha, I looked up some pictures of what they do. I'm good man. That's fricking terrible. How in the hell do you even know ya got'm before ya break out? They're so damn small. Doesn't Deet or Permethrin stave'm off? Nasty little bastards.

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Chiggers suck but if yu put a drop s nail polish over the entry spot they suffocate quickly. Still itch though.
 
Well I'm just thankful that after we spent decades eradicating a host of debilitating diseases from the USA no one let millions of poor, diseased, third-worlders into the country to reintroduce them.

Oh, wait...never mind.
 
I caught one crawling on me some years ago and stuck it in the freezer for an hour.
Took it out and put it on the table under the lamp, and in a few minutes that fucker was crawling again. Shit ain't normal.

Put my pack up after a trip and about two weeks later noticed a tick balanced on one of the straps, grasping the pack with rear legs while holding its body out in space just waiting, hoping for a bag of blood to walk by and hug.

I think if I had left him there ten years later he'd still be alive, waiting, ready to feed.
 
I had Lyme the end of last July . It was a fucked up experience . In so much pain you would have to feel to appreciate . Everything hurt and all the pain felt like it was connected electrically and all the pain seemed to pulse together . Ive heard permethrin for clothes and dryer sheets for skin . Can someone tell me if the dryer sheets really works .
 
Ha, I looked up some pictures of what they do. I'm good man. That's fricking terrible. How in the hell do you even know ya got'm before ya break out?


You don't. Maniacal itching for days.

Nail polish is a myth, as chiggers don't burrow into the skin.

Once you see and feel their presence, they're already gone, but the damage lingers.
I get relief from applying near scalding water to the area for as long as I can bear it, then icing it for a while. After that apply a topical anti-itch cream.
Chiggers, which are the microscopic larvae of mites in the Trombicula genus, feed on skin tissue. Like ticks, they're opportunistic parasites that grab onto any host that happens to wander by them. Unlike ticks, chiggers are rather bad at embedding themselves in your skin. They usually grab hold of a hair follicle or skin pore. Chiggers aren't particularly good at penetrating skin, either, so they tend to prefer areas of the body where the skin is soft and supple. People most often find chigger bites on their ankles, behind the knees, along the waistline, or in their armpits.

Once the chigger has secured itself to a hair follicle, it pierces your skin and releases some saliva, which is loaded with digestive enzymes.

The enzymes effectively liquefy your skin tissue, making it easier for the chigger to feed on your skin. A healthy human immune system will quickly detect the intruders, however, and take defensive action. A red, raised bump, called a papule, forms at the site of each chigger bite. The wall of this round welt is called a stylosome, and the chigger puts it to good use.

The little bugger uses the stylosome like a drinking straw, through which it slurps up a smoothie of skin cells.

To get a good meal, chiggers need to feed for 3-4 days. Unfortunately for them, they rarely have the chance to hang around that long on a human host. The slightest touch will brush them off. If they haven't already been dislodged when you remove your clothing, they'll get washed down the drain the next time you shower. In fact, if you suspect you've strayed into chigger territory while outdoors, a long, soapy shower should do the trick to remove any that hitched a ride. Chiggers fare much better on hosts with fur, where they can get a good grip and feed at a leisurely pace.
 
One way to keep them down is to use a professional grade insecticide. One that works well with minimum damage to the environment, is liquid sevin, trade name Carbaryl. You can order it n line, its 43% while the stuff you buy at Lowe's is only about 5%. Cut the grass and weeds short and mix it about 1.5 oz to a gallon of water and spray liberally around you place. Anything with Bifenthrin in it is good as well but dont let pets get in it for several days.
 
I had Lyme the end of last July . It was a fucked up experience . In so much pain you would have to feel to appreciate . Everything hurt and all the pain felt like it was connected electrically and all the pain seemed to pulse together . Ive heard permethrin for clothes and dryer sheets for skin . Can someone tell me if the dryer sheets really works .

I have two friends that got it. Sounds like you caught yours early and will get over it. Long term its one of the most miserable conditions one can get. Best to ya.
 
You can buy 32oz concentrated Permethrin on Amazon...I use it in a 2gal sprayer for my yard and 15gal boom sprayer on my UTV and spray trails at my land. Spraying in the woods is kinda like spitting in the rain, but I figure if I can knock them down even a bit it is worth the effort.

I pulled literally HUNDREDS of seed/larval ticks off my black lab multiple times last year; a lint roller works amazingly well for those little buggers when they are simply crawling on hair or clothing and they desiccate fairly quickly.
 
Chiggers are horrible. I had them around both ankles like shown above and man those bastards itched like nothing else I've ever had. There have been times I've been relieved to learn I had poison ivy rather than chiggers.

I use Sawyer's on all my outdoor gear. In fact, I use so much of that stuff I'll probably die from the poison before I get a tick bite.
 
Ticks are a motherfucker. I got a tick in my thigh a few weeks ago, small black one, believe a male deer tick. Normally I'm good about pulling them off, but this guy lost his head and I fished out what I could, still got a red dot there that itches.

Fuck ticks. I really don't want lyme disease.
 
We have plenty. The "seed ticks" are the worst. About the size of this dot . , and by the hundreds at a time when you get them.
I know someone who got the red meat allergy thing from a tick. I've been bitten way too many times to count, but have been lucky so far. Chiggers are worse.


I didn't know such a tick existed until last fall when setting up game cameras. My hand and arm were covered in the little fuckers and I thought shit was crawling on me for days. As far as other ticks, Virginia was the worst place I've been. We couldn't walk our dog on a gravel driveway without having some on us or the dog.
 
Permethrin is what I picked up last time we had this discussion. Can't remember who said get it, but I did. I douche the hell outta everything anymore. Suggest you guys do the same.

Just remember that that shit is for your gear and clothing and not your skin, that's where good ole Deet comes in.

As for chiggers/red bugs. I wish I could explain how fucking miserable they can be. Imagine the worst case of poison ivy and then some. Years ago I was clearing some brush on my uncle's land and ended up with a solid red belt and jock strap of bites, plus my ankles, behind my knees, and my arm pits. They like the areas of constriction for some reason. I didn't even have visible space between bites, just huge red swollen rashes that itched like you couldn't imagine. I was seriously considering soaking my crotch in Diesel.

Oddly, after that horrendous episode I've never had an issue with them again. I wonder if my body built up some sort of resistance or if that's even possible?

 
Re: Fingernail polish for chiggers. My mom would put it on the bites when I was a kid with the same story about suffocating them. Although that whole story about them digging in evidently isn't true, it still worked. If I scratched them (removing the polish) my mom would kick my ass, so I tended to leave them alone, as best I could anyway.
 
Just remember that that shit is for your gear and clothing and not your skin, that's where good ole Deet comes in.

As for chiggers/red bugs. I wish I could explain how fucking miserable they can be. Imagine the worst case of poison ivy and then some. Years ago I was clearing some brush on my uncle's land and ended up with a solid red belt and jock strap of bites, plus my ankles, behind my knees, and my arm pits. They like the areas of constriction for some reason. I didn't even have visible space between bites, just huge red swollen rashes that itched like you couldn't imagine. I was seriously considering soaking my crotch in Diesel.

Oddly, after that horrendous episode I've never had an issue with them again. I wonder if my body built up some sort of resistance or if that's even possible?


Copy that Bogey, I'm aware of the application procedure, but your input is not only noted, but appreciated.

Sounds like another form of hell having to endure those little bastards. And no, I'm not referring to 'any' members. Especially yours. ;)
 
Copy that Bogey, I'm aware of the application procedure, but your input is not only noted, but appreciated.

Sounds like another form of hell having to endure those little bastards. And no, I'm not referring to 'any' members. Especially yours. ;)

I figured you were. Not so much directed at you as just general FYI. Most folks know Deet, but Permethrin is a bit more obscure outside the mil. I've seen guys spraying themselves down with it like it and cringed.
 
Picked up a big jug of Permethrin recently also bought some of those WWII canvas leggings.

Figure Ill bathe them in that juice.

Should do double duty keeping shit from inside the pant legs as well as satisfying my fantasy of being Sgt Stryker...
 
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Just remember that that shit is for your gear and clothing and not your skin, that's where good ole Deet comes in.

As for chiggers/red bugs. I wish I could explain how fucking miserable they can be. Imagine the worst case of poison ivy and then some. Years ago I was clearing some brush on my uncle's land and ended up with a solid red belt and jock strap of bites, plus my ankles, behind my knees, and my arm pits. They like the areas of constriction for some reason. I didn't even have visible space between bites, just huge red swollen rashes that itched like you couldn't imagine. I was seriously considering soaking my crotch in Diesel.

Oddly, after that horrendous episode I've never had an issue with them again. I wonder if my body built up some sort of resistance or if that's even possible?

I think they like areas of constriction because they tend to be a bit damper.....
 
Boots
Pants/hunting pants that tie at the ankle.
White shirt, tucked in.
Assorted panther piss.
My version of tick/chigger repellent.
The white shirt is to spot the little bastards if they made it that high.

R
 
Boots
Pants/hunting pants that tie at the ankle.
White shirt, tucked in.
Assorted panther piss.
My version of tick/chigger repellent.
The white shirt is to spot the little bastards if they made it that high.

R

Dust pants with Sevin dust.
 
Ya know, after my advisory about putting Permethrin on your body, I went back and looked it up. As best a second I can tell, the dangers were a bit of a wives tale. It appears the biggest reason for not doing it is that your body metabolizes or breaks it down and it's only effective for about 15mins. They even sell a cream version as a scabacide, and it appears to be a principal ingredient in lice shampoo.

I guess I took the mil at face value when they said to NOT spray yourself with it. I was envisioning Gulf War Syndrome v2. Shoulda known better than to trust Uncle Sugar.

So I apologize for perpetuating bad dope. My bad dog
 
I'd still be careful putting it on your body. I use it to spray the barn and livestock. There are specific mixing instructions for treating an area vs applying to livestock. There is also an age restriction for applying to livestock (animal must be old enough).