Why Is There a Primer Supply Shortage? | Powder Valley
Why is there a primer supply shortage? The pros at Powder Valley discuss the causes of The Great Primer Shortage of 2020, and what you should do about it.

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Yeah, just wonder how many of those new gun owners will turn out to be friend or foe.Stuff we all kind of knew already but I like the part about “estimated 6.2 million new gun owners”.Why Is There a Primer Supply Shortage? | Powder Valley
Why is there a primer supply shortage? The pros at Powder Valley discuss the causes of The Great Primer Shortage of 2020, and what you should do about it.www.powdervalleyinc.com
Makes me scratch my head and wonder. How the hell they could supply for an actual shooting war if they cant keep up with mall ninja's scared of antifa?
Maybe Lake City has a strategic reserve set aside for mil?
Makes me scratch my head and wonder. How the hell they could supply for an actual shooting war if they cant keep up with mall ninja's scared of antifa?
Maybe Lake City has a strategic reserve set aside for mil?
I'd like to know the real story behind the complete absense of foreign primers?? I haven't heard of any panic buying in Russia.
Stuff we all kind of knew already but I like the part about “estimated 6.2 million new gun owners”.Why Is There a Primer Supply Shortage? | Powder Valley
Why is there a primer supply shortage? The pros at Powder Valley discuss the causes of The Great Primer Shortage of 2020, and what you should do about it.www.powdervalleyinc.com
And where can we place these back orders?? Everywhere I have looked they won’t accept them...I don’t see this as being any different than 2008. Primers were sold out and not readily available for most of Obama’s first term. Put your back orders in and wait.
^^ This exactlyAnd 6.1995 of them will never fire more than 20 rounds.
I'd like to know the real story behind the complete absense of foreign primers?? I haven't heard of any panic buying in Russia.
Plenty of Mexican Aguila available. Their center fire is complete crap. I only use it to function check gassers. If it'll run Aguila it'll run anything.
Unis Ginex. Decent primer. Graf carried them. Bourbon and autocorrect, go figure.
I suspect in a large scale shooting war we'd be tooling up rather quickly and pulling equipment out of mothballs with the increased demand. The supply to civilian shooters would be choked off very quickly.
Looks like Bosnia, at least the parent company is based in Bosnia.
This really has me rethinking any load development I do. Can’t afford to dump 100 primers into a day of load development anymore. Now I’ll be using local friendly match days as development days. Where I’m not so worried about my agg scores and I’ll shoot 3 different loads for my 3 strings of fire.
The guys I feel bad for are the 3 gun shooters and competition pistol shooters. Those guys burn through a lot of ammo in practice and in matches. It’s a bad time to take up pistol/steel shooting.
Because of this alone I've unfortunately paused all load development for rifles. All I shoot now is established loads, and everything inside of 100 yards I shoot with my Anschutz just because I have a lot of match .22. Its gonna be a shitty year for shooting I think
Same here. Even though I still have a lot of rimfire ammo, I shoot my air rifles a lot.
The last .22LR shortage caused me to get back into airguns.
Makes me wonder Gunny, all reloading supplies out of stock or picked over.Makes me scratch my head and wonder. How the hell they could supply for an actual shooting war if they cant keep up with mall ninja's scared of antifa?
Maybe Lake City has a strategic reserve set aside for mil?
I'd like to know the real story behind the complete absense of foreign primers?? I haven't heard of any panic buying in Russia.
Monday through Friday, old timers who are retired stand outside of every gun shop in town an hour before they open, and wait. Shop opens. They descend on the place like a swarm of geriatric locusts and buy everything. They go home, place it on the mountains of ammo/reloading supplies they have no intent on using. The rest of us who have to work all week swing by said shops on the way home from work, or on the weekends when we have a free minute. Everything is gone. All of it. Not a single God damned round or reloading component left, except some goofy, odd shaped "self defense" pistol ammo nobody has ever heard of, at $87 for a 20 round box, and a dusty, returned bag of twice-fired, berdan primed 303 British from Pakistan.
Fast forward a year. SCOTUS fucks us all and Biden/Harris end up in the White House. It's absolute pandemonium across the country. Patriots, aka Washington's Slayers, have been in the streets going full 1776 against ANTIFA and BLM, aka commie faggots. The good guys are running low on everything. They are quickly realizing that their few thousand round stashes from the good old days when the God Emperor Trump ruled the land, don't last very long when you're peeling back Maoist muffin caps like hotcakes. Nobody has been able to get anything gun related ever since the chongers sneezed their bioweapon all over the planet. Its worse than the worst gun and ammo shortage of the Obama years. The aforementioned old timers end up passing away peacefully in their sleep. They picked a great time to check out, God rest their souls.
Their kids get their affairs in order and start digging through all their shit. Turns out their kids are all liberal shitbirds with purple hair and enough hardware in their faces to set off a metal detector at the airport before they've even left the parking garage. All of them have matching "Feel the Bern" tattoos, a penchant for Kombucha from Whole Foods, and they all smoke American Spirits. They find the stockpile of ammo and reloading components. They gasp. "How could Grandpa have stockpiled all this evil stuff? We have to get rid of it," one says. "I always knew Grandpa was evil," the other says. "He always talked about killing japs and said they deserved a lot more than Fat Man and Little Boy. He even told me once that we should have listened to General MacArthur, whatever that means. He always said America is the greatest nation ever to grace the planet, and the Constitution is the greatest document ever written, second only to the Bible. Grandpa was everything my Genderstudies Professor warned me about!"
The libfuck kids have waste management bring in a dumpster for clean up. They throw all of it in there: hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo. Hundreds of thousands of CCI BR2s, CCI 200s, Federal 215Ms, magnum, small rifle, pistol primers, you name it. Hundreds of pounds of H1000, H4350, Varget, Retumbo, RE15, IMR4064...All of it...gone. They pile on a bunch of hardwood, hand built furniture, from the turn of the 19th century, on top of all of it. "Cover it up with this shitty furniture. Clearly Grandpa wasn't a fan of fair trade either, or he would have bought all his furniture from Ikea," they say. "Now no evil Trump voter white supremecist can ever get their dirty racist hands on any of this stuff." They call waste management to pick up the dumpster. It gets hauled off to the landfill, never to be seen again. The commie scum drives off into the sunset in their Toyota Prius, powered by strawberry douche.
Anyways, I'm going to get another cup of coffee. I fully expect to be banned for this post, by the time I get back to my computer. Its been real, boys.
Monday through Friday, old timers who are retired stand outside of every gun shop in town an hour before they open, and wait. Shop opens. They descend on the place like a swarm of geriatric locusts and buy everything. They go home, place it on the mountains of ammo/reloading supplies they have no intent on using. The rest of us who have to work all week swing by said shops on the way home from work, or on the weekends when we have a free minute. Everything is gone. All of it. Not a single God damned round or reloading component left, except some goofy, odd shaped "self defense" pistol ammo nobody has ever heard of, at $87 for a 20 round box, and a dusty, returned bag of twice-fired, berdan primed 303 British from Pakistan.
Fast forward a year. SCOTUS fucks us all and Biden/Harris end up in the White House. It's absolute pandemonium across the country. Patriots, aka Washington's Slayers, have been in the streets going full 1776 against ANTIFA and BLM, aka commie faggots. The good guys are running low on everything. They are quickly realizing that their few thousand round stashes from the good old days when the God Emperor Trump ruled the land, don't last very long when you're peeling back Maoist muffin caps like hotcakes. Nobody has been able to get anything gun related ever since the chongers sneezed their bioweapon all over the planet. Its worse than the worst gun and ammo shortage of the Obama years. The aforementioned old timers end up passing away peacefully in their sleep. They picked a great time to check out, God rest their souls.
Their kids get their affairs in order and start digging through all their shit. Turns out their kids are all liberal shitbirds with purple hair and enough hardware in their faces to set off a metal detector at the airport before they've even left the parking garage. All of them have matching "Feel the Bern" tattoos, a penchant for Kombucha from Whole Foods, and they all smoke American Spirits. They find the stockpile of ammo and reloading components. They gasp. "How could Grandpa have stockpiled all this evil stuff? We have to get rid of it," one says. "I always knew Grandpa was evil," the other says. "He always talked about killing japs and said they deserved a lot more than Fat Man and Little Boy. He even told me once that we should have listened to General MacArthur, whatever that means. He always said America is the greatest nation ever to grace the planet, and the Constitution is the greatest document ever written, second only to the Bible. Grandpa was everything my Genderstudies Professor warned me about!"
The libfuck kids have waste management bring in a dumpster for clean up. They throw all of it in there: hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo. Hundreds of thousands of CCI BR2s, CCI 200s, Federal 215Ms, magnum, small rifle, pistol primers, you name it. Hundreds of pounds of H1000, H4350, Varget, Retumbo, RE15, IMR4064...All of it...gone. They pile on a bunch of hardwood, hand built furniture, from the turn of the 19th century, on top of all of it. "Cover it up with this shitty furniture. Clearly Grandpa wasn't a fan of fair trade either, or he would have bought all his furniture from Ikea," they say. "Now no evil Trump voter white supremecist can ever get their dirty racist hands on any of this stuff." They call waste management to pick up the dumpster. It gets hauled off to the landfill, never to be seen again. The commie scum drives off into the sunset in their Toyota Prius, powered by strawberry douche.
Anyways, I'm going to get another cup of coffee. I fully expect to be banned for this post, by the time I get back to my computer. Its been real, boys.
Monday through Friday, old timers who are retired stand outside of every gun shop in town an hour before they open, and wait. Shop opens. They descend on the place like a swarm of geriatric locusts and buy everything. They go home, place it on the mountains of ammo/reloading supplies they have no intent on using. The rest of us who have to work all week swing by said shops on the way home from work, or on the weekends when we have a free minute. Everything is gone. All of it. Not a single God damned round or reloading component left, except some goofy, odd shaped "self defense" pistol ammo nobody has ever heard of, at $87 for a 20 round box, and a dusty, returned bag of twice-fired, berdan primed 303 British from Pakistan.
Fast forward a year. SCOTUS fucks us all and Biden/Harris end up in the White House. It's absolute pandemonium across the country. Patriots, aka Washington's Slayers, have been in the streets going full 1776 against ANTIFA and BLM, aka commie faggots. The good guys are running low on everything. They are quickly realizing that their few thousand round stashes from the good old days when the God Emperor Trump ruled the land, don't last very long when you're peeling back Maoist muffin caps like hotcakes. Nobody has been able to get anything gun related ever since the chongers sneezed their bioweapon all over the planet. Its worse than the worst gun and ammo shortage of the Obama years. The aforementioned old timers end up passing away peacefully in their sleep. They picked a great time to check out, God rest their souls.
Their kids get their affairs in order and start digging through all their shit. Turns out their kids are all liberal shitbirds with purple hair and enough hardware in their faces to set off a metal detector at the airport before they've even left the parking garage. All of them have matching "Feel the Bern" tattoos, a penchant for Kombucha from Whole Foods, and they all smoke American Spirits. They find the stockpile of ammo and reloading components. They gasp. "How could Grandpa have stockpiled all this evil stuff? We have to get rid of it," one says. "I always knew Grandpa was evil," the other says. "He always talked about killing japs and said they deserved a lot more than Fat Man and Little Boy. He even told me once that we should have listened to General MacArthur, whatever that means. He always said America is the greatest nation ever to grace the planet, and the Constitution is the greatest document ever written, second only to the Bible. Grandpa was everything my Genderstudies Professor warned me about!"
The libfuck kids have waste management bring in a dumpster for clean up. They throw all of it in there: hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo. Hundreds of thousands of CCI BR2s, CCI 200s, Federal 215Ms, magnum, small rifle, pistol primers, you name it. Hundreds of pounds of H1000, H4350, Varget, Retumbo, RE15, IMR4064...All of it...gone. They pile on a bunch of hardwood, hand built furniture, from the turn of the 19th century, on top of all of it. "Cover it up with this shitty furniture. Clearly Grandpa wasn't a fan of fair trade either, or he would have bought all his furniture from Ikea," they say. "Now no evil Trump voter white supremecist can ever get their dirty racist hands on any of this stuff." They call waste management to pick up the dumpster. It gets hauled off to the landfill, never to be seen again. The commie scum drives off into the sunset in their Toyota Prius, powered by strawberry douche.
Anyways, I'm going to get another cup of coffee. I fully expect to be banned for this post, by the time I get back to my computer. Its been real, boys.
Somebody is bored...Monday through Friday, old timers who are retired stand outside of every gun shop in town an hour before they open, and wait. Shop opens. They descend on the place like a swarm of geriatric locusts and buy everything. They go home, place it on the mountains of ammo/reloading supplies they have no intent on using. The rest of us who have to work all week swing by said shops on the way home from work, or on the weekends when we have a free minute. Everything is gone. All of it. Not a single God damned round or reloading component left, except some goofy, odd shaped "self defense" pistol ammo nobody has ever heard of, at $87 for a 20 round box, and a dusty, returned bag of twice-fired, berdan primed 303 British from Pakistan.
Fast forward a year. SCOTUS fucks us all and Biden/Harris end up in the White House. It's absolute pandemonium across the country. Patriots, aka Washington's Slayers, have been in the streets going full 1776 against ANTIFA and BLM, aka commie faggots. The good guys are running low on everything. They are quickly realizing that their few thousand round stashes from the good old days when the God Emperor Trump ruled the land, don't last very long when you're peeling back Maoist muffin caps like hotcakes. Nobody has been able to get anything gun related ever since the chongers sneezed their bioweapon all over the planet. Its worse than the worst gun and ammo shortage of the Obama years. The aforementioned old timers end up passing away peacefully in their sleep. They picked a great time to check out, God rest their souls.
Their kids get their affairs in order and start digging through all their shit. Turns out their kids are all liberal shitbirds with purple hair and enough hardware in their faces to set off a metal detector at the airport before they've even left the parking garage. All of them have matching "Feel the Bern" tattoos, a penchant for Kombucha from Whole Foods, and they all smoke American Spirits. They find the stockpile of ammo and reloading components. They gasp. "How could Grandpa have stockpiled all this evil stuff? We have to get rid of it," one says. "I always knew Grandpa was evil," the other says. "He always talked about killing japs and said they deserved a lot more than Fat Man and Little Boy. He even told me once that we should have listened to General MacArthur, whatever that means. He always said America is the greatest nation ever to grace the planet, and the Constitution is the greatest document ever written, second only to the Bible. Grandpa was everything my Genderstudies Professor warned me about!"
The libfuck kids have waste management bring in a dumpster for clean up. They throw all of it in there: hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo. Hundreds of thousands of CCI BR2s, CCI 200s, Federal 215Ms, magnum, small rifle, pistol primers, you name it. Hundreds of pounds of H1000, H4350, Varget, Retumbo, RE15, IMR4064...All of it...gone. They pile on a bunch of hardwood, hand built furniture, from the turn of the 19th century, on top of all of it. "Cover it up with this shitty furniture. Clearly Grandpa wasn't a fan of fair trade either, or he would have bought all his furniture from Ikea," they say. "Now no evil Trump voter white supremecist can ever get their dirty racist hands on any of this stuff." They call waste management to pick up the dumpster. It gets hauled off to the landfill, never to be seen again. The commie scum drives off into the sunset in their Toyota Prius, powered by strawberry douche.
Anyways, I'm going to get another cup of coffee. I fully expect to be banned for this post, by the time I get back to my computer. Its been real, boys.
I suspect the sanctions contribute to this. Unex, S&B, Wolf, Tula are all Easter block shit likely partially or wholey owned by the Russian Government or An Oligarch.
yeah the Obama admin blocked the imports of all foreign gun parts the way I understand it.
reloading components fell under the ban.
2010ish is when this happened.
I am wishful thinking, but hoping someone puts the bug in Trump's ear if this election works out to sunset this regulation.
Aint that the truth. How in the fuck am I going to be able to go to stores and buy components when I work 5 days a week. I managed to pull a late morning going into work one day and used it to wait for my local sportsman’s to open, I showed up as they opened but it was a day that they received jack shit. Cool, my one day I used had zero success.
It sucks, but if you weren't laying in deep after the last shortage several years ago, there is no one to blame but yourself. Components were never as available and cheap as they were this time a year ago. My goal has always been to have enough that if the tap was turned off tomorrow, I would never run out.
The tap isn't off, but its not far...and I am pretty close.
I wasn’t even in the country this time last year. Also, I am not a hoarder, at least I used to not be. Now I know, buy everything even if I’ll never use it, or so I can at least sell it at 3x markup. Check!
I just never understood people who hoard ammo, don’t you people ever shoot??? That’s why I never have huge supplies of it, because I actually shoot it.
I actually shoot a lot.I wasn’t even in the country this time last year. Also, I am not a hoarder, at least I used to not be. Now I know, buy everything even if I’ll never use it, or so I can at least sell it at 3x markup. Check!
I just never understood people who hoard ammo, don’t you people ever shoot??? That’s why I never have huge supplies of it, because I actually shoot it.
Not really, but power to you for being retired and having no responsibilities to have the time and money to do things like that.Thats funny....now do you understand hoarding? Its not hard to buy extra, and still shoot plenty...and because I have done that for the least several years, I get to keep shooting.
And yeah, I have made some money at three and four times what I paid, and with that I have bought more components.
Not really, but power to you for being retired and having no responsibilities to have the time and money to do things like that.
Well I sure feel better now. Think I'll go nail my nuts to the shop door, just to ease the pain a bit.Monday through Friday, old timers who are retired stand outside of every gun shop in town an hour before they open, and wait. Shop opens. They descend on the place like a swarm of geriatric locusts and buy everything. They go home, place it on the mountains of ammo/reloading supplies they have no intent on using. The rest of us who have to work all week swing by said shops on the way home from work, or on the weekends when we have a free minute. Everything is gone. All of it. Not a single God damned round or reloading component left, except some goofy, odd shaped "self defense" pistol ammo nobody has ever heard of, at $87 for a 20 round box, and a dusty, returned bag of twice-fired, berdan primed 303 British from Pakistan.
Fast forward a year. SCOTUS fucks us all and Biden/Harris end up in the White House. It's absolute pandemonium across the country. Patriots, aka Washington's Slayers, have been in the streets going full 1776 against ANTIFA and BLM, aka commie faggots. The good guys are running low on everything. They are quickly realizing that their few thousand round stashes from the good old days when the God Emperor Trump ruled the land, don't last very long when you're peeling back Maoist muffin caps like hotcakes. Nobody has been able to get anything gun related ever since the chongers sneezed their bioweapon all over the planet. Its worse than the worst gun and ammo shortage of the Obama years. The aforementioned old timers end up passing away peacefully in their sleep. They picked a great time to check out, God rest their souls.
Their kids get their affairs in order and start digging through all their shit. Turns out their kids are all liberal shitbirds with purple hair and enough hardware in their faces to set off a metal detector at the airport before they've even left the parking garage. All of them have matching "Feel the Bern" tattoos, a penchant for Kombucha from Whole Foods, and they all smoke American Spirits. They find the stockpile of ammo and reloading components. They gasp. "How could Grandpa have stockpiled all this evil stuff? We have to get rid of it," one says. "I always knew Grandpa was evil," the other says. "He always talked about killing japs and said they deserved a lot more than Fat Man and Little Boy. He even told me once that we should have listened to General MacArthur, whatever that means. He always said America is the greatest nation ever to grace the planet, and the Constitution is the greatest document ever written, second only to the Bible. Grandpa was everything my Genderstudies Professor warned me about!"
The libfuck kids have waste management bring in a dumpster for clean up. They throw all of it in there: hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo. Hundreds of thousands of CCI BR2s, CCI 200s, Federal 215Ms, magnum, small rifle, pistol primers, you name it. Hundreds of pounds of H1000, H4350, Varget, Retumbo, RE15, IMR4064...All of it...gone. They pile on a bunch of hardwood, hand built furniture, from the turn of the 19th century, on top of all of it. "Cover it up with this shitty furniture. Clearly Grandpa wasn't a fan of fair trade either, or he would have bought all his furniture from Ikea," they say. "Now no evil Trump voter white supremecist can ever get their dirty racist hands on any of this stuff." They call waste management to pick up the dumpster. It gets hauled off to the landfill, never to be seen again. The commie scum drives off into the sunset in their Toyota Prius, powered by strawberry douche.
Anyways, I'm going to get another cup of coffee. I fully expect to be banned for this post, by the time I get back to my computer. Its been real, boys.
Well I sure feel better now. Think I'll go nail my nuts to the shop door, just to ease the pain a bit.It does make me thankful my daughter is pro 2A, pro Trump, and drives a truck which will crush a Prius.
Probably because they sold it all. Powder and bullets keep showing up if you're looking - it may not be exactly what you want but it's not like the flow has been cut off.
Most companies don't stock tons of stuff because normally they can get it JIT. Powder Valley doesn't seem to be getting much in so I'd think that they aren't selling anything either. No sales = no money for rent, personnel, debt, etc.
We shoot more!It's very interesting, that I have found good supplies of primers on websites of stores, in Canada, New Zealand and elsewhere. Of course, it can't be shipped to the USA. It caused me to wonder if the shortage of primers in the USA, is intentional. Are Americans are the only ones buying, or hording munitions?