Prayers(!!) & guns needed.

TresMon

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Friends,

I was broken into last night. Whomever did it was a slick & top notch crew. No prints left, and got into the vehicles cleanly with no damage to the vehicles.

They took my beloved Les Baer 1911, Premier II with 1.5" @ 50 yards accuracy guarantee: a pistol I have competed with in IPSC, IDPA & 3-gun for the last 12 years- it was my carry gun. A weapon that was an intimate piece as I had logged nearing 100,000 rounds through. They also got my N.American Arms 22 mag mini revolver that had been my carry gun since I was 15.

A (white water) co worker friend needed a place to stay last night. They had been looking for a large camper to live & travel in after the white water season is over. As unlucky as it seems- last night happened to be when they crashed at my place and $2000 cold cash was stolen out of their vehicle- the down payment for the camper.They literally stold the down payment on my co-workers home.

I have no faith the cash will ever be recovered and next to no faith I will get my weapons back despite the cop that did the report telling me he knows who did it.

The worst part is the times are not getting any better. Minnesota state gov is currently shut down= lack of funds. We know the state of the union. Fox news reported yesterday that banks are closing branches at a far greater rate than they are opening. Locally Green bank of east Tennessee went bust officially, but a large investor firm of NC bought it "merely to prevent panic." Our government has pulled the plug on NASA. The bible says... On & on. Things are bad going to worse.

Yet I'm the boy scout that so many people around me locally will look to when the SHTF comes in broad daylight rather than lurking in the shadows as it is now- and now I don;t own a single defensive handgun nor come close to having the financial means of even affording a highpoint, much less a solid reliable piece.

I ask all you praying folk to remember me & my co-worker; mostly my co-worker who lost 1/3 the needed money to purchase a camper, a home- a place to lay their head at night.

Please pray for me that my pistols are indeed recovered foremost or at least I can some how get re-armed.

Thank you for your prayers friends.

If anyone feels charitable and has won a good pistol at a match or perhaps got a, (for example) well worn police trade-in Glock they don't need or can part with at a charitable price I'm all ears.

But the prayer is what I'm seeking for sure.

Thanks. Your friend,
TresMon

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. Roman's 8:28

It's easy to praise God on the mountain top. In this valley- to God be the glory right here, right now says the Tresmon. I love Jesus.
 
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Absolutely horrible, you have my prayers friend, as does your co-worker. I cannot offer anything more than that, but I wish I could. Best of luck in finding your possessions, I know how attached we can become to things such as firearms. And to have such things stolen by other human beings just isn't right. I can't stand thieves and I hope they get what they deserve. But you're a good man Tres, and God will take care of you. This I know and will stand behind.

-Dylan
 
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sorry to say, but that's the reason you don't leave weapons in your car. And another reason I never carry cash, lets say you lose your wallet or it gets stolen and you have 2k in it. You'll never see that money again, now you lose your wallet and someone uses your card. There is nothing to worry about, I've had that happen to me. You get it back, and you move on.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sorry to say, but that's the reason you don't leave weapons in your car. And another reason I never carry cash, lets say you lose your wallet or it gets stolen and you have 2k in it. You'll never see that money again, now you lose your wallet and someone uses your card. There is nothing to worry about, I've had that happen to me. You get it back, and you move on.</div></div>

I couldn't have said it better myself. I have never understood why <span style="font-style: italic">anyone</span> would leave firearm(s) or cash in a vehicle unattended. It's like you're begging to have your vehicle stolen or broken into.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sorry to say, but that's the reason you don't leave weapons in your car. And another reason I never carry cash, lets say you lose your wallet or it gets stolen and you have 2k in it. You'll never see that money again, now you lose your wallet and someone uses your card. There is nothing to worry about, I've had that happen to me. You get it back, and you move on.</div></div>

I couldn't have said it better myself. I have never understood why <span style="font-style: italic">anyone</span> would leave firearm(s) or cash in a vehicle unattended. It's like you're begging to have your vehicle stolen or broken into. </div></div>

I got up at 5 am. I went and worked a white water rafting guide job all day in the heat, paddling a raft with well over a half ton of humans, who don't care to or can;t figure out how to paddle to prevent us form flipping the raft in class iv white water. Many trips down the river through out the day. Not to mention loading, lugging hauling, strapping 130# rafts in between each trip.

I drove home from the river literally nodding off at the wheel. I went in and was asleep soon as I sat in my easy chair.

You'd do this, you do this, and you never do that. Right. Guess you have never ever had a day where you were less than 100% on full scale alert.

And so when your going into the next big city to make a large purchase- Cash does not get you a better deal? You never pay in cash?

Shut up and go take a course in compassion. Period.
 
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Tres, I'm sorry for your loss. But I too have came home exhausted and left crap in my truck, but I'll never leave a gun. Let's say range day, if I go out to eat after. If I can't see my truck, guess what? I'm not eating there. This is a hard lesson for you, but I bet it's something that will never happen to you again. You live and learn, about the cash on hand. A check will get you the same deal cash will, going out of town. A quick phone call to the bank takes care of that. Bump up your daily spending limit on your card and your gtg.
 
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You SHOULD be able to leave anything you own in the wide open w/o fear of thieves. Locks are only to keep the "honest people", "honest". There are no excuses for a thief. To quote a line from an actor I cannot stand but who is in a certain movie that I love, "Hard times flushes a chump." You and yer co-worker are in my prayers.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sorry to say, but that's the reason you don't leave weapons in your car. And another reason I never carry cash, lets say you lose your wallet or it gets stolen and you have 2k in it. You'll never see that money again, now you lose your wallet and someone uses your card. There is nothing to worry about, I've had that happen to me. You get it back, and you move on. </div></div>

Stand down lazy. Dont kick a guy when he is down. Tres is a smart guy Im sure he has seen the error in his ways.

Feel for you Tres. Let me know if I can help out.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tres, I'm sorry for your loss. But I too have came home exhausted and left crap in my truck, but I'll never leave a gun. Let's say range day, if I go out to eat after. If I can't see my truck, guess what? I'm not eating there. This is a hard lesson for you, but I bet it's something that will never happen to you again. You live and learn, about the cash on hand. A check will get you the same deal cash will, going out of town. A quick phone call to the bank takes care of that. Bump up your daily spending limit on your card and your gtg. </div></div>

Ever read the sign at 9 out of 10 places when your out of your hometown?

"No out of state checks"
or
"Sorry, no personal checks accepted"

Dude, you are on a roll.
 
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Does the insurance on your cars/house cover any of that stuff? I know they rarely ever cover cash, but perhaps that will offer some help.

I know what you mean on coming home form a hard day of work, and sometimes you just want to sit, relax, and recover for a bit and you fall asleep. Stuff happens, it sucks. Thieves suck worse, however have faith that they'll get theirs in the end. Look at the bright side, at least they didn't decide to enter the house armed with your firearms looking for more "loot". it sucks yes, but remember there are more important things than "things".

Best of luck, but don't forget to realize that although you feel extremely unlucky, perhaps you should see it from the point that you were quite lucky.

Branden
 
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Yeah there's a bright side. I told the cop "they even popped the gas lid?" He said a lot of folks hide the spare key there- the theives were hoping to find a key to steal the whole car. It could have been worse.

(But honest to God I'd have rather them stole the Honda Accord than the Baer...)
 
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Damn man, that's no good at all! Smart money is on never seeing any of it again. I've been there too, almost the same story minus the rafting part. Hope you all get back on your feet asap. Prayers sent.
 
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Tresmon, I am sorry to hear of your loss.

I will pitch in $50 to help you get a defensive handgun, maybe some others here can too. You have shared a lot of your wisdom and expertise on this site, I have learned a lot from reading your posts and would be glad to help you out like that if you would allow it.

Ubet
 
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If the car was parked in your driveway then your homeowners policy should cover you property. I know it won't resolve the intrinsic value, but it would at least ease some the financial pain.

One time I came home from the gym at around 11pm, and in my absent mind I left the doors unlocked. Next morning woke up to my stereo, tools, and $500 set of binoculars gone. I know the feeling. The good news is because they stole a gun and the value far exceeded the $3K then they're looking at Felony Theft and Car Prowling. That should entice local LE as a felony bust is far better than a misdemeanor.
 
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That truly sucks, I hate thieves with a passion.

PM me your info and I'll be happy to contribute along with the others towards getting you funds for a replacement pistol.
 
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One of the hardest things God has had to teach me is that i must receive help. i'm all about helping others but as a rule wont receive help. Im really nlessed by your offer of donations. no thanks! ( i just had to say it !) but if you wanna donate to a handgun fun my pp is [email protected].

regardless im blessed by your graciousnes and compasion.

thanks crew,
Tres
 
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Sorry about your loss Brother.

It's a shame that these things are happening more and more these days. Criminals are getting more desperate, and doing more daring things to steal from people.

Again, sorry for your loss.
 
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Dude the more you post the stronger my feeling is you need serious professional help.

I'll say a prayer that no innocent civilians are hurt by your firearm negligence.

Good Luck with your survival class.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notquiteright</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude the more you post the stronger my feeling is you need serious professional help.

I'll say a prayer that no innocent civilians are hurt by your firearm negligence.

Good Luck with your survival class. </div></div>

If you are being serious then words escape me. Have you ever met Tres? I mean face to face. There are many here and on other forums who can read my posts and deduce that I am a certified jackass but I can assure you it depends on what kind of man is looking me in the eye. It is true I do not tolerate a fool and I have no patience for BS. Kicking a man when he is down is just about the lowest grade of BS one can muster. How in the hell is he guilty of firearms negligence? That is rich. Blame the victim and claim his contribution to crime.....I would really love to give you a good face to face cussing. There is only one thing lower than a thief...the man who defends his actions.

I just returned from a long day of shooting a match and setting heavy steel targets. I am sore from dumping my dirt bike on a slight incline and I pulled my calf mscle pretty bad when I tried to recover and keep from layin her down. I could barely walk but I managed to get my guns out and in the house, now they need to be put in the safe. I don't live in the city. It would take an absolute damn fool to come in my yard and dig around in my car as there is only one way off this mountain. Have I left guns in my car? Yes. Does that make me stupid and deserving to have my stuff stole? Evidently it does. I have never been to where Tres lives so I do not know the lay of the land so cannot pass any judgements even if I wanted to do so. Believe it or not there are still some pretty safe places in this country where you don't HAVE to lock your doors. I have my trips to the range and matches planned out and try to minimize stops as I consider parking lots and any public place to be hot zones for theft unless I am in sight of my car at all times. Sometimes a hope and a prayer has to do, as You can't watch every minute if you have to duck in a bathroom etc. I consider my home a safe zone and so far it has been. None of us are eternally vigilant although some of the guys who have chimed in here may think themselves impervious to sneak attacks. I guess some never have a weak moment or chink in their armor...you guys are my heroes.

Tres I have stayed pretty quiet because I frankly did not know what to say. I have had things stolen and it litterally makes you feel raped, violated and vulnerable. I know your hurt brother. I can tell you it is probably someone you know or know of and they have been watching you and waiting. I am sure the police suggested those things if they were good cops. I think you have learned from this thing and I hold you blameless as you should. Could you have prevented the situation? Absolutely. All situations can be avoided with that wonderful 20/20 vision we call hindsight. I hate it for you and when I see you again I will have something for you. It may not be much but it will be from the heart. PM sent.
Joe
 
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armorpl8chikn

That was really well written. But fools such as nqr, probably wont get it.

Come on guys, I am sure their are a few more out there who can spare a little to help Tres out!
 
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I do remember another Hide member saying that they had their sidearm stolen out of the middle compartment of their car (I think actually it was a LEO) and EVERYONE dumped on that guy for leaving a gun in the car.

Leaving firearms in cars is bad practice. No ifs, buts or howevers. What Tres singularly missed is the point that the worst part of this event is not the lost deposit or his high sentimental value of lost guns but the fact that his decision to leave firearms in a non secure place has enabled criminals to get hold of guns. THIS is what he should have lamented first and foremost.

Everyday we're under fire from the anti-gunners because firearms 'fall' into the wrong hands. They don't 'fall', sometimes they are allowed to be taken by people who don't take adequate care of their guns. As NQR rightly said, I hope no innocent people are killed with the weapons you did not secure.

If people want to help Tres out then that's a kind, charitable act and their own personal business. But Tres needs to face up to a mea culpa here and to say he's at no fault and deserving of compassion is just wrong. It was an act of negligence. I'm sure many have been guilty of the same act - myself included - and were lucky to get away with it but taking this stance of being a victim when in fact he was a passive enabler, is missing the bigger point.

I hope the crook who stole it get their hand blown off in a negligent discharge and you get your firearms back.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: armorpl8chikn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notquiteright</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude the more you post the stronger my feeling is you need serious professional help.

I'll say a prayer that no innocent civilians are hurt by your firearm negligence.

Good Luck with your survival class. </div></div>

If you are being serious then words escape me. Have you ever met Tres? I mean face to face. There are many here and on other forums who can read my posts and deduce that I am a certified jackass but I can assure you it depends on what kind of man is looking me in the eye. It is true I do not tolerate a fool and I have no patience for BS. Kicking a man when he is down is just about the lowest grade of BS one can muster. How in the hell is he guilty of firearms negligence? That is rich. Blame the victim and claim his contribution to crime.....I would really love to give you a good face to face cussing. There is only one thing lower than a thief...the man who defends his actions.

I just returned from a long day of shooting a match and setting heavy steel targets. I am sore from dumping my dirt bike on a slight incline and I pulled my calf mscle pretty bad when I tried to recover and keep from layin her down. I could barely walk but I managed to get my guns out and in the house, now they need to be put in the safe. I don't live in the city. It would take an absolute damn fool to come in my yard and dig around in my car as there is only one way off this mountain. Have I left guns in my car? Yes. Does that make me stupid and deserving to have my stuff stole? Evidently it does. I have never been to where Tres lives so I do not know the lay of the land so cannot pass any judgements even if I wanted to do so. Believe it or not there are still some pretty safe places in this country where you don't HAVE to lock your doors. I have my trips to the range and matches planned out and try to minimize stops as I consider parking lots and any public place to be hot zones for theft unless I am in sight of my car at all times. Sometimes a hope and a prayer has to do, as You can't watch every minute if you have to duck in a bathroom etc. I consider my home a safe zone and so far it has been. None of us are eternally vigilant although some of the guys who have chimed in here may think themselves impervious to sneak attacks. I guess some never have a weak moment or chink in their armor...you guys are my heroes.

Tres I have stayed pretty quiet because I frankly did not know what to say. I have had things stolen and it litterally makes you feel raped, violated and vulnerable. I know your hurt brother. I can tell you it is probably someone you know or know of and they have been watching you and waiting. I am sure the police suggested those things if they were good cops. I think you have learned from this thing and I hold you blameless as you should. Could you have prevented the situation? Absolutely. All situations can be avoided with that wonderful 20/20 vision we call hindsight. I hate it for you and when I see you again I will have something for you. It may not be much but it will be from the heart. PM sent.
Joe</div></div>



+1000!!!!!!
 
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Oh gentlemen-
I guess I see this not as the rape of Tres but a morality lesson for us all.

Before the whiners and ranters start anew, I assure you I have been dog assed tired but responsible for a fully automatic weapon, and assorted other things that go- BOOM.

The maximum effective range of an excuse is zero meters.

The ranters in here love to go on and on about their RIGHT TO CARRY. They are not so vocal about the responsibility of carrying a deadly weapon. Oh they go on and on about the 'duty' they feel to protect family and friends, but not so much on the duty to keep their own weapons out of the hands of bad guys.

When I read is rather bizarre first post of our self proclaimed boy scout I got the heebee jeebees. I'll pass by the nostradingbat parts, mortals are so bad at predicting much past lunch.

If I had been the cop taking his report a whole freaking series of warning bells would have gone off. First the idea of two local thieves doing so 'professional' job. Don't know Knob Lick , but around here we can leave trucks running, keys on the front seat at night, and front doors unlocked. Mainly because thieves know who to walk waaaay around. Much easier quarry than a super ninja survivalist who has skills enough to be a self proclaimed instructor.

Next thing I'd stare hard at. Thieves break in but don't touch the radio? It is as if they KNEW the pistols were there. Now Tres claims he NEVER leaves a weapon unsecured like that but this ONE TIME after a long day of playing deliverance on the river he just plain forgot. (I have been so tired I had to write MY call sign on my hand but never left a weapon unsecured)

So I might be thinking he does it all the time and might even show his pride and joy off around the locals alot. It is difficult to explain the no window smashed, radio still inplace if it was just bad luck that on one night...

The 'professional' job on the vehicle is most likely having left the car unlocked, and to admit that pucks up the insurance claim, looks bad to the very cops he is trying to impress so he can 'train' them.

I too have been around a few cops from across the nation. One thing I have notice is a stranger namedropping is seen with a bit of distain. EVERY peckerhead tries that, the most ardent generally the ones with the least real life connection.

So as a Cop I'd have an extremely rough time believing this was a one in a million bit of bad luck. That our boy scout NEVER leaves his weapons unsecured, the thieves could unlock the doors, and discovered the weapons BEFORE ripping out the radio. Not to mention choosing a man with such a ninja rep in the first place.

The money for a travel trailer- I'll leave that alone, too easy.

Now I tend to snap back when the Good Book gets drug into such situations. Seems God is always handy to teach us what we have decided the lesson is in advance. No matter the subject- learning to beg online or not torture/kill/ do kinky things with duct tape to we have NO idea if they have trespassed against us, people. Its always dressed up as noble, so they never hurt anyone again, it isn't like the raped a kid but rather made a boy scout look foolish, IF the story is to be believed as presented.

Pride going before a fall and all that.

Course the whole knows who did it story stinks. As Americans we claim to believe innocent until PROVEN guilty and as best I can tell the claim the cop knew who did it was as bogus as a Hooker's smile. Might be a short list of possible ner-do wells in Knob Lick but with no fingerprints the cop just 'knows'? And said cop will tell a civilian the names of the bad guys who, again read slowly, have no proof connecting them to the crime?

If I was to garner a gem of wisdom from the Good Book it would be a line I feel was inserted centuries after the fact but some truely Faithful use as their sig line.

Something about owning a cloak and not a sword and what to do about it. Not learning to beg.

Maybe the good citizens of Knob Lick are timid souls but I would have thought they were disassembling a 22 at their mother's teat and if their boy scout leader lost his weapons THEY would have a small arsenal to rummage through on his doorstep before he could come online to beg.

Anyway, the whole story just doesn't pass the smell test for me.

My bottom line, past how much trouble I have believing the story is-

With Rights Come Responsibilities.
 
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Tres its a good thing they didn't steal your car and run over a pedestrian with it, according to some. Man, you can't be havin those dangerous items left sittin around unsecured like that. Don't you realize the responsibility you are commanded with?.....some dudes on this site are WAY out there. Once again, the ONLY one responsible for this whole thing is the thief, not the victim!
 
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I'm just trying to square this in my mind. You had a Les Baer 1911 and enough money to put 100,000 rounds thru it but now you can't afford a low priced LEO turn in Glock? In Knob Lick, TN the thieves are so professional they can break into a locked car and leave no trace? As luck would have it, you have friends stay with you and decide to leave $2000 cash in their car, which also gets stolen? The one night your car gets ripped? Something stinks... Help me out here, please, I just want to understand. Cause if all of the above is true, your friends ripped you off.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: patriotoutlaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tres its a good thing they didn't steal your car and run over a pedestrian with it, according to some. Man, you can't be havin those dangerous items left sittin around unsecured like that. Don't you realize the responsibility you are commanded with?.....some dudes on this site are WAY out there. Once again, <span style="font-weight: bold">the ONLY one responsible for this whole thing is the thief, not the victim!</span> </div></div>

bullshit.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: patriotoutlaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tres its a good thing they didn't steal your car and run over a pedestrian with it, according to some. Man, you can't be havin those dangerous items left sittin around unsecured like that. Don't you realize the responsibility you are commanded with?.....some dudes on this site are WAY out there. Once again, <span style="font-weight: bold">the ONLY one responsible for this whole thing is the thief, not the victim!</span> </div></div>

bullshit. </div></div>

Dude....
 
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I litterally cannoot say another word. Oh I could write a couple pages that you jackasses would scarcely understand. If I say any more I will surely be banned. Only a complete fuckstick would slip slide around the ban hammer like some of you have.
I can tell you this Karma is one bad bitch. Those who make judgements smugly, remember their grand statements when their hour comes round.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: patriotoutlaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: patriotoutlaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tres its a good thing they didn't steal your car and run over a pedestrian with it, according to some. Man, you can't be havin those dangerous items left sittin around unsecured like that. Don't you realize the responsibility you are commanded with?.....some dudes on this site are WAY out there. Once again, <span style="font-weight: bold">the ONLY one responsible for this whole thing is the thief, not the victim!</span> </div></div>

bullshit. </div></div>

Dude.... </div></div>

Patriot,

I'm not in the least bit wishing anything bad on Tres beyond what he's going through. But, to say he's not in some part responsible for his own plight is not holding people accountable to their own actions.

Of course the greater guilt lies with the thieves, but to suggest Tres was a hapless victim is simply not accurate. To suggest that thieves stealing a car is the same as thieves stealing a carelessly left firearm is also not right and belittles the absolute need for people to recognize that the RIGHT to bear arms comes with the responsibility to do so properly.

If we divorce the right from the responsibility then why do we groan with displeasure and embarrassment at vids of idiots being idiotic with firearms? Again, not calling Tres an idiot. Careless, for sure. Unique in that carelessness - no, I've done what he's done, kicked myself for it, recognized I was a jackass for doing it in the first place and make a point to never need to stop and get out of the car for anything when going to and fro from the range.

I've had disagreements and worse with some people on here and a few are just abject fools, but regardless, we're brothers in arms and so I would want what's best for us all. For Tres, I think telling him he did nothing wrong is not doing him any favors.
 
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Been there, had it done. In my opinion.... It is close to home, friends would be the first place to look. 9 out of 10 heists will be done by someone you know or have knowledge of the situation.
 
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Just back online after getting in from the skills gathering. It was a roaring success and desert was having a date last night with a beautiful woman from MT who happened to be wearing a sleeveless floor length buckskin dress of her own making. Gosh I thought buck fever was bad sometimes when you see Ol mossy horn Odocoileus Virginianus munching on clover but when you see beautiful Latinus Womanus wearing mossy horns robe- YUM!
Turbo Buck Fever ++!!!!

Was enjoying that lift... then there's this. Okay let's roll with it,.

Many things I could say but I boiled it all down in my mind to separate the yield from the trub and it's this- It's upsetting to me that those of you nay sayers & other negative speakers of me have missed out on the incredible things that have transpired here. You missed out on the good and decent things the Lord had; matters He knits into the depth of the soul that changes and stays with those it transpired within for life. Some here have identified themselves again as loyal friends to me for which I appreciate and certainly reciprocate. Others of you have stepped out in what is sensible, kind and generous and I appreciate it and look forward to our paths crossing and call you friend. Then there's the black useless & impure dross that floats to the surface and is skimmed off and discarded during the refining process- It's obvious here.

Your all welcome at my dinner table with Dross being guest of honor:
Romans 12:19,20

Thank you to those who took part in blessing me (prayer(!) Encouragement and to those who decided to send money) you are and will be blessed accordingly. IF you who donated would like the funds back after reading all the content here- I'll get it back to you immediately, just say the word.

Thanks and let me know how I can be of help to this community.

 
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chikin-
I could easily say so many have sat in judgement quickly and with few facts everytime a police thread comes on the Hide.

There is the very harsh judgements sent toward immigrants, poor people, and a whole host '
 
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A clown quoting scriptures and self-elevating above the dross is still a clown. You deserve neither your self-anointed sainthood or the kindness of others.

Fucking charlatans.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notquiteright</div><div class="ubbcode-body">chikin-
I could easily say so many have sat in judgement quickly and with few facts everytime a police thread comes on the Hide.

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Ohhhhh so you have an axe to grind. Nice. Well played. And now I am getting a little more profile on you. Kepp talking we call it skinning your ignorance where I come from. Here on the Hide I guess you could call it filling out your profile in the long form.
So although this thread has nothing to do with a cop bashing thread you come here and shit all over Tres because someone bashed a cop in a completely unrelated thread. So simply put you are nothing but a troll in this thread. Classy. I am done with you, nothing more to say to you.
 
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event and nqr, one common theme I have noticed, both of you are trolls, that add nothing to this site. Why dont you two crawl back under the bridges you came out from. To shit on another when he is down, is the absolute lowest possible.

I one day, would like to be as perfect as you two and never make a mistake or have anything go afoul. How nice it must be to live such a wonderful life, he who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.